Who got excited enough to consider moving from 1M to M4/M3?

ozinaldo · 08-17-2013, 09:48 PM

As the title suggests, I thought that it could be interesting to have a separate thread here in the 1M Forum to see different reactions of 1M owners (others are also welcome naturally) to newly released M4 Concept Car which probably is pretty much what we will have as the real M4 sometime next year. I figure that there are many of us who passed from another BMW to 1M starting with 2011, in some cases from previous M cars including various generations of M3 so 2014 onward the new M3/M4 will be a natural alternative for most 1M owners to consider...or will it be?

For me, short and easy, I don't think so! It will be even bigger than the E92 M3 which is a dealbreaker for me alone. It won't break world records in weight reduction too; if Auto Bild claim is true and it will have 1495 kg. then this will be 1M weight, not big deal and merely 85 kg. less than a manual E92 M3. The engine will be (one way or another) more powerful version of what we already have as stock. It will also have air curtains and stuff like (this time completed) open side vent/crease kind of design details. However, it still looks like a catalogue of M Performance parts for the 4 series, nothing dramatically different design-wise. And we know that it will have a EPS type of steering and lots of electronic gizmos. So, overall...very predictable for me, I am sure it will be great driving car and everything but I "felt" nothing with this concept. More revolutionary cars like Alfa 4C, a possible Alpine or a surprise M2 CSL (hope never dies!) are still more likely replacements for me in near future or I will happily not replace the 1M which I still consider as the perfect car for me.

And don't get me wrong, I think the closest car to next M3/M4 among previous M cars, is the 1M and not the E92 M3! 1M was a real life test of next M3, a marketing and engineering project, an experiment, that's what I always believed and I think that is actually coming to life now with the M4 but unfortunately not in the small package and raw form of 1M, but as a different final product, more polished.

Now, I would like to hear what others here feel about the concept M4.

themellly · 08-17-2013, 10:04 PM

Not a 1m owner but im super excited about an m4 so crossing my fingers I can grab one! The only thing I'm iffy about is that v6 twin turbo.. even though it'll be better for mods and i definitely will not leave the car stock i still think it should have been a V8

TunedM2C · 08-17-2013, 10:39 PM

I posted about this awhile ago and I plan on having one in the garage (albeit the LCI edition). It's a great looking car. I'm also looking forward to the M3 as well as the M2.

-cj- · 08-17-2013, 10:55 PM

Have that released specs for the m4 engine? I love the look of it. Sometimes I wish the 1M were a little larger... Just a little... But I'm not swapping the 1M for an M4.

Stratus650 · 08-17-2013, 11:33 PM

The M4 looks superb, however i have one issue with it. The rear fender flares are not prominent like the 1M or upcoming M3, making it extra sleeek for my taste, i want something aggressive like this...

the wheels on the M4 are also not my taste, not concave enough to give depth. but these can change no issues.

will I buy either one? maybe yeah, once LCI is announced, but the 1M is staying for Sure hehe. most probably M3 i guess, since the E90 M3 is more rare in Dubai than the E92. i hope they offer it in a stripped form, i dont need options

HERR FSTIR · 08-18-2013, 12:03 AM

The M4 concept is a beautiful car, but it looks very large. I would like to see it next to an e46 M3 and a 1M to get a better idea of its scale. But I have no doubt it is a big car, and that makes it uninteresting to me.

I will be interested to learn what ///M has done with the N55 to create the S55. That may give an indication of the power plant produced for the M2.

IEDEI · 08-18-2013, 12:10 AM

the M4 looks REALLY cool....especially that colour Aurum Dust. epic. Will definitely be considering one in a couple years----although i echo some of the opinions here about size as i feel it has become a bit too long/big.

Jay-K · 08-18-2013, 01:19 AM

It's awesome planning to get one, not trading it with my 1M tho

Jean-Marc · 08-18-2013, 10:41 AM

nice car. Worth considering.
Let's wait until we known how it rides: I am curious to see how the new M3/M4 will handle the torque... And if BMW really manage to keep it below 1500 kg...

fastauto · 08-18-2013, 11:07 AM

The M4 will be a winner for most but is not my cup of tea at all. I am hoping the M2 keeps that smaller, nimble sports car vibe alive. Plus, there is just too much damn technology in these new cars. The parking lot pimping BMW fans will love the M4.

1swift1 · 08-18-2013, 11:26 AM

I have the 1M and don't plan on getting rid of it.
I saw the M4 yesterday in Monterey. It's beautiful, but much longer and larger than the 1M. My preference is nimble and compact.

Artemis · 08-18-2013, 12:08 PM

Judging the book by its cover: frankly speaking, the M4 does not move me the way the 1M did and does. The M4 is a powerful luxury yacht - the 1M one hell of a sexy speed boat. I like the latter more. A different meaning to the catch-phrase "Size matters"...

trinity_2200 · 08-18-2013, 01:17 PM

I personally like the 1M more

M3 Adjuster · 08-18-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -cj-

Have that released specs for the m4 engine? I love the look of it. Sometimes I wish the 1M were a little larger... Just a little... But I'm not swapping the 1M for an M4.

agree with this. New M4 is absolutely badass though.. perhaps the best looking M car to date.. including my beloved E30 M3... but it is much too large a car for my liking.. If I were to go for anything it would be for a new M2, or even better... perhaps an M2 gran coupe... (read sedan)

bdaddylo · 08-18-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

agree with this. New M4 is absolutely badass though.. perhaps the best looking M car to date.. including my beloved E30 M3... but it is much too large a car for my liking.. If I were to go for anything it would be for a new M2, or even better... perhaps an M2 gran coupe... (read sedan)

I don't mind the additional size if it weighs in less than the 1M.

Ayrton91 · 08-18-2013, 06:09 PM

Continuing the trend the M4 is bigger than the e92 M3, which was already too big for me (though after seeing the M4 I have more appreciation for the e92 M3). Still, I intend to keep the 1M for a long long long time. I am following with interest the M2 developments, as it would be a potential addition to our garage.

ZIPNBYE · 08-18-2013, 06:45 PM

Can't say as I'm in the "styling win" camp on the M4, or for that matter, the new 3-series either. Much prefer the look of the out-going e90/92/93 to the new platform, and will furthermore not be trading off my 1M either (or our 135i).

providence · 08-18-2013, 07:42 PM

TBH I've looked at that car more than a few times this weekend. It is indeed striking. Like many have expressed, it's definitely much larger than the 1M, which for me isn't such a bad thing. Few months back I was lured into the dealership tempted by an M5 as I was frustrated by how little I actually get to drive my car (two young kids; 4 and 1.5 yrs; my weekend driving is usually defaulted to the X5). I loved the M5's space but that was about it... I ended up turning away from a pretty sweet deal (9k off MSRP AND 61500 for my car).
This experience has pretty much solidified my car's place in the garage.
I love the looks of the concept, I'll however be getting it in the M3 guise (extra doors and space for my kids).

this plan has been discussed and approved by my wife (my favorite disclaimer)

CarJunkie · 08-18-2013, 09:20 PM

If I get another M car to park next to the 1M, it will be an e30 or e46. Not into the newer heavier cars.

Slats · 08-18-2013, 09:34 PM

Cars like the 1M don't come along all that often. The 2002 tii, the E30 M3 and the 1M all represent, to me, quintessential ultimate driving machines. The M4 will be about as unique as a black E36 M3 in a few years. When I bought my 1M, I kept my black E36 M3 so I would still have a practical four door with adequate trunk space. Besides, I could never get out of it what I have in it, so I may as well drive it into the ground.

ESC OFF · 08-18-2013, 10:03 PM

M4 looks great, just a bit too big for me to consider it to provide the same kind of fun the 1M offers.

robertm · 08-19-2013, 08:12 AM

If they can somehow manage to make the m3/4 as light as a 1m I'd 100% consider it. The suspension will be a lot better, the power will be better. If it weighs the same it will be very tossable but have better stability than the 1m due to longer wheelbase.

If I were to do it I'd get the four door M3. I'd want to be able to get a stripper though. Don't want power seats, or sunroof or I-drive or any of that other stuff. Cloth seat option would be cool too!

08-17-2013, 09:48 PM	#1
ozinaldo Brigadier General 116 Rep 3,070 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lisbon, Portugal iTrader: (0)	Who got excited enough to consider moving from 1M to M4/M3? As the title suggests, I thought that it could be interesting to have a separate thread here in the 1M Forum to see different reactions of 1M owners (others are also welcome naturally) to newly released M4 Concept Car which probably is pretty much what we will have as the real M4 sometime next year. I figure that there are many of us who passed from another BMW to 1M starting with 2011, in some cases from previous M cars including various generations of M3 so 2014 onward the new M3/M4 will be a natural alternative for most 1M owners to consider...or will it be? For me, short and easy, I don't think so! It will be even bigger than the E92 M3 which is a dealbreaker for me alone. It won't break world records in weight reduction too; if Auto Bild claim is true and it will have 1495 kg. then this will be 1M weight, not big deal and merely 85 kg. less than a manual E92 M3. The engine will be (one way or another) more powerful version of what we already have as stock. It will also have air curtains and stuff like (this time completed) open side vent/crease kind of design details. However, it still looks like a catalogue of M Performance parts for the 4 series, nothing dramatically different design-wise. And we know that it will have a EPS type of steering and lots of electronic gizmos. So, overall...very predictable for me, I am sure it will be great driving car and everything but I "felt" nothing with this concept. More revolutionary cars like Alfa 4C, a possible Alpine or a surprise M2 CSL (hope never dies!) are still more likely replacements for me in near future or I will happily not replace the 1M which I still consider as the perfect car for me. And don't get me wrong, I think the closest car to next M3/M4 among previous M cars, is the 1M and not the E92 M3! 1M was a real life test of next M3, a marketing and engineering project, an experiment, that's what I always believed and I think that is actually coming to life now with the M4 but unfortunately not in the small package and raw form of 1M, but as a different final product, more polished. Now, I would like to hear what others here feel about the concept M4. __________________ "The mark of a great car is one whose overall competence exceeds what you should expect from its individual components and the 1M does just that", Chris Harris. BMW 1M-SOLD-: TECH: Evolve Race+N55mids, Evolve IC, Michelin PSS, ER cp, aFe filter, CDVx, Vorshlag camber plates, BMS OCC EXTERIOR: trunk spoiler, blacklines, black grills, IND goodies INTERIOR: Alcantara steering wheel, steel pedals, custom mats, MPower e-brake. Last edited by ozinaldo; 08-18-2013 at 01:53 PM..
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themellly Alice in Wonderland 6 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2012 135i e88 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Glendale,CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW 135i e88 [0.00]	Not a 1m owner but im super excited about an m4 so crossing my fingers I can grab one! The only thing I'm iffy about is that v6 twin turbo.. even though it'll be better for mods and i definitely will not leave the car stock i still think it should have been a V8
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08-17-2013, 10:39 PM	#3
TunedM2C Brigadier General 828 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: 2016 LBB M2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (2)	I posted about this awhile ago and I plan on having one in the garage (albeit the LCI edition). It's a great looking car. I'm also looking forward to the M3 as well as the M2.
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08-17-2013, 10:55 PM	#4
-cj- Captain 198 Rep 799 Posts Drives: '20 X5MC \| '20 Z4 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (3)	Have that released specs for the m4 engine? I love the look of it. Sometimes I wish the 1M were a little larger... Just a little... But I'm not swapping the 1M for an M4.
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08-17-2013, 11:33 PM	#5
Stratus650 Lieutenant 189 Rep 565 Posts Drives: 1er M Coupe Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	The M4 looks superb, however i have one issue with it. The rear fender flares are not prominent like the 1M or upcoming M3, making it extra sleeek for my taste, i want something aggressive like this... the wheels on the M4 are also not my taste, not concave enough to give depth. but these can change no issues. will I buy either one? maybe yeah, once LCI is announced, but the 1M is staying for Sure hehe. most probably M3 i guess, since the E90 M3 is more rare in Dubai than the E92. i hope they offer it in a stripped form, i dont need options __________________ '12 Candy Grey Metallic 1M
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HERR FSTIR Captain 119 Rep 771 Posts Drives: LBB M2C, VO 1M, GSA 1200 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Frozen Tundra iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 BMW X3M Compet ... [0.00] 2019 BMW S1000R [0.00] 2019 M2 Competition [0.00] 2018 BMW 1200 GSA [0.00] 2011 1M Coupe [9.75]	The M4 concept is a beautiful car, but it looks very large. I would like to see it next to an e46 M3 and a 1M to get a better idea of its scale. But I have no doubt it is a big car, and that makes it uninteresting to me. I will be interested to learn what ///M has done with the N55 to create the S55. That may give an indication of the power plant produced for the M2.
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IEDEI Banned 1130 Rep 4,686 Posts Drives: L'Orange Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Brooklyn, NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [8.40]	the M4 looks REALLY cool....especially that colour Aurum Dust. epic. Will definitely be considering one in a couple years----although i echo some of the opinions here about size as i feel it has become a bit too long/big.
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08-18-2013, 01:19 AM	#8
Jay-K Brigadier General 384 Rep 3,450 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	It's awesome planning to get one, not trading it with my 1M tho __________________ "Well, there's a straight-six engine at the front, a manual gearbox in the middle and drive goes to the back. That's Page 1, Chapter 1 from the petrosexual handbook" - JC
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08-18-2013, 10:41 AM	#9
Jean-Marc Enlisted Member 0 Rep 32 Posts Drives: BMW 1M Valencia Orange Join Date: May 2012 Location: france iTrader: (0)	nice car. Worth considering. Let's wait until we known how it rides: I am curious to see how the new M3/M4 will handle the torque... And if BMW really manage to keep it below 1500 kg...
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08-18-2013, 11:07 AM	#10
fastauto Captain 26 Rep 672 Posts Drives: AW 1M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	The M4 will be a winner for most but is not my cup of tea at all. I am hoping the M2 keeps that smaller, nimble sports car vibe alive. Plus, there is just too much damn technology in these new cars. The parking lot pimping BMW fans will love the M4.
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08-18-2013, 11:26 AM	#11
1swift1 I pass gas for a living. 10 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Northern California iTrader: (1)	I have the 1M and don't plan on getting rid of it. I saw the M4 yesterday in Monterey. It's beautiful, but much longer and larger than the 1M. My preference is nimble and compact.
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08-18-2013, 12:08 PM	#12
Artemis Moderator 29313 Rep 13,093 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Competition Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	Judging the book by its cover: frankly speaking, the M4 does not move me the way the 1M did and does. The M4 is a powerful luxury yacht - the 1M one hell of a sexy speed boat. I like the latter more. A different meaning to the catch-phrase "Size matters"... __________________ ///M is art ↔ Artemis
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08-18-2013, 01:17 PM	#13
trinity_2200 Private 4 Rep 69 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NZ iTrader: (0)	I personally like the 1M more
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08-18-2013, 06:09 PM	#16
Ayrton91 Private First Class 57 Rep 168 Posts Drives: BMW 1M, BMW X5 3.5d Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Continuing the trend the M4 is bigger than the e92 M3, which was already too big for me (though after seeing the M4 I have more appreciation for the e92 M3). Still, I intend to keep the 1M for a long long long time. I am following with interest the M2 developments, as it would be a potential addition to our garage.
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08-18-2013, 06:45 PM	#17
ZIPNBYE Let's save military ranks for those who earn it! 45 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: ...on the Ragged Edge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW e92 M3 Cou ... [7.50] 2013 BMW e84 X1 xDr ... [7.00]	Can't say as I'm in the "styling win" camp on the M4, or for that matter, the new 3-series either. Much prefer the look of the out-going e90/92/93 to the new platform, and will furthermore not be trading off my 1M either (or our 135i). __________________ Richard 2013 BMW M3 Individual -- Fire Orange (sold) 2013 BMW X1 xDrive35i M-Sport -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe (#205/220) -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2009 BMW 135i M-Sport Coupe -- Space Grey (sold)
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08-18-2013, 07:42 PM	#18
providence Private First Class 19 Rep 192 Posts Drives: X3 35xi, F15 X5 (35d), 1M Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PA / Canada iTrader: (0)	TBH I've looked at that car more than a few times this weekend. It is indeed striking. Like many have expressed, it's definitely much larger than the 1M, which for me isn't such a bad thing. Few months back I was lured into the dealership tempted by an M5 as I was frustrated by how little I actually get to drive my car (two young kids; 4 and 1.5 yrs; my weekend driving is usually defaulted to the X5). I loved the M5's space but that was about it... I ended up turning away from a pretty sweet deal (9k off MSRP AND 61500 for my car). This experience has pretty much solidified my car's place in the garage. I love the looks of the concept, I'll however be getting it in the M3 guise (extra doors and space for my kids). this plan has been discussed and approved by my wife (my favorite disclaimer)
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08-18-2013, 09:20 PM	#19
CarJunkie Colonel 2617 Rep 2,819 Posts Drives: e82 1M, f87 M2cs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tri-Cities, Washington iTrader: (1) Garage List 2020 M2cs [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00]	If I get another M car to park next to the 1M, it will be an e30 or e46. Not into the newer heavier cars.
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08-18-2013, 09:34 PM	#20
Slats Private First Class 29 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 2011 1M & 1997 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO iTrader: (0)	Cars like the 1M don't come along all that often. The 2002 tii, the E30 M3 and the 1M all represent, to me, quintessential ultimate driving machines. The M4 will be about as unique as a black E36 M3 in a few years. When I bought my 1M, I kept my black E36 M3 so I would still have a practical four door with adequate trunk space. Besides, I could never get out of it what I have in it, so I may as well drive it into the ground.
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08-18-2013, 10:03 PM	#21
ESC OFF Major 40 Rep 1,058 Posts Drives: 1M, CaymanS, 914, 500 Abarth Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	M4 looks great, just a bit too big for me to consider it to provide the same kind of fun the 1M offers. __________________ The faster you go, the better it feels
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08-19-2013, 08:12 AM	#22
robertm Major 450 Rep 1,358 Posts Drives: 2020 M2 Comp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dfw iTrader: (0)	If they can somehow manage to make the m3/4 as light as a 1m I'd 100% consider it. The suspension will be a lot better, the power will be better. If it weighs the same it will be very tossable but have better stability than the 1m due to longer wheelbase. If I were to do it I'd get the four door M3. I'd want to be able to get a stripper though. Don't want power seats, or sunroof or I-drive or any of that other stuff. Cloth seat option would be cool too!
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