I need to go lower on my ST coils..Suggestions?

KyleC · 12-12-2014, 11:52 AM

I recently installed some ST coils on my 135. The problem is that I have them adjusted all the way down on the rear and am still getting some wheel gap. On the front, I still have plenty of space to go down if I need to.

What are some springs I can find to go an additional inch or so lower? Is there any other alternative? I searched but couldn't find anything on the subject. Thanks for your help

Here's a picture of how it currently sits. The rear is all the way down but the front is higher than I would like to compensate for the rear.

EM58NDS 135i · 12-12-2014, 11:57 AM

If and when you take rear passengers, that gap will reduce significantly, so it's probably ideal how it is...

My ST's only have about 15mm left on the rear to go down, but i get alot of scraping even with 1 rear passenger, so for me i can't risk going any lower.

KyleC · 12-12-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EM58NDS 135i

If and when you take rear passengers, that gap will reduce significantly, so it's probably ideal how it is...

My ST's only have about 15mm left on the rear to go down, but i get alot of scraping even with 1 rear passenger, so for me i can't risk going any lower.

Hm good point. I'll have to have someone sit in the back and see how it looks. Its just frustrating to not have my desired ride height despite getting the coilovers

A_Squared · 12-12-2014, 07:13 PM

Man all these complaints about the ST couls not going low enough in the rear has got me scratching my head. Mine tucks if I drop it all the way in the rear. Had to raise it quite a bit when I first installed. Did you remove the cup the stock spring sat in when you installed the new adjuster?

KyleC · 12-13-2014, 06:56 AM

I had a shop install them. I'll have to stick my head under and look. Man, if this ends up being the solution I'll give you ten thousand Internet high fives

A_Squared · 12-13-2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KyleC

I had a shop install them. I'll have to stick my head under and look. Man, if this ends up being the solution I'll give you ten thousand Internet high fives

Hahaha. This is what mine looks like and I'm a little past halfway down in the rear.

KyleC · 12-13-2014, 10:40 AM

and those are 18's? If so then that pretty much proves they were not installed correctly.

Thanks for the help man

KyleC · 12-13-2014, 10:53 AM

Yeah I just looked underneath. The perch that the stock spring fits in to was not removed. Looks like it was a shop error. Now I have to wait until monday to try and explain its his fault and get it in there in a timely fashion

Kgolf31 · 12-13-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleC

Yeah I just looked underneath. The perch that the stock spring fits in to was not removed. Looks like it was a shop error. Now I have to wait until monday to try and explain its his fault and get it in there in a timely fashion

Yea, that needs to get knocked out.

A_Squared · 12-13-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleC

and those are 18's? If so then that pretty much proves they were not installed correctly.

Thanks for the help man

Yup mine are 18's, apex aero 7's. Yea take it back to the shop and have them remove that cup as kgolf mentioned. Shouldn't take them long and make sure they don't try to charge you for their error. If I'm not mistaken, it mentions that in the install instructions also, which I'm sure they didn't bother looking at.

Grinchxvx · 12-15-2014, 06:54 PM

This is me with my kW v2 all the way down in the rear. From what I understand they're the same adjustability except for dampening. I never rub with 245 or 255.

Fidiman · 12-16-2014, 04:15 AM

I can put 1 finger and a half with the minimal drop recommanded by KW/ST. I have to lower a bit now as it has settled.

I will post some pics later

KyleC · 12-16-2014, 11:44 AM

I took it back to the shop and he fixed it without issue in an hour and gave me another alignment for free as well as $100 off my next visit. I'm satisfied, and now my 135 looks like it should. I'll post pics soon

A_Squared · 12-16-2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleC

I took it back to the shop and he fixed it without issue in an hour and gave me another alignment for free as well as $100 off my next visit. I'm satisfied, and now my 135 looks like it should. I'll post pics soon

Good to hear man. I'm glad the shop treated you right and owned their mistake.

Fidiman · 12-17-2014, 04:45 AM

Yep good to hear, can't wait for the pics

Do you have the adjustement of the rear (mm on the perches) ?

3002 tii · 12-17-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by A_Squared

Good to hear man. I'm glad the shop treated you right and owned their mistake.

Rare to find good customer service like this, stick with them going forward. Use that $100 credit for walnut blasting lol.

c_ozanich · 12-17-2014, 10:47 AM

I have ST's, bottom of threaded hat sitting flush with bottom of top perch-not sure what you guys consider half way down and what not.

Fidiman · 12-17-2014, 11:15 AM

I think half way down is, rear, the perche at half distance of what KW/ST recommends.

In fact, it's my definition

Then, front, will be the same !

Hope it helps you !

Another question c_ozanich: what's the distance between the middle of the centre caps and your fender ? Same question between tire and fender ?

Thanks

andrey_gta · 12-17-2014, 07:19 PM

D2 coils go low... :/
Thats if you are okay with BC coilover clones

jmz135 · 12-19-2014, 03:53 PM

When you guys are talking about the piece that needs to get removed, you are talking about the black metal cup at the top, right? As opposed to the rubber piece that fits into the bottom of the spring?

A_Squared · 12-19-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jmz135

When you guys are talking about the piece that needs to get removed, you are talking about the black metal cup at the top, right? As opposed to the rubber piece that fits into the bottom of the spring?

Yup exactly. It's the metal cup at the top that the stock spring positioned into. That gets removed and the new adjustable perch sits up there.

jmz135 · 12-20-2014, 04:37 PM

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Yup exactly. It's the metal cup at the top that the stock spring positioned into. That gets removed and the new adjustable perch sits up there.

Yea it's strange, I definitely removed that (with a hammer), but I still have about .5in wheel gap when all the way lowered on STs.

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KyleC Enlisted Member 8 Rep 35 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana iTrader: (0)	I need to go lower on my ST coils..Suggestions? I recently installed some ST coils on my 135. The problem is that I have them adjusted all the way down on the rear and am still getting some wheel gap. On the front, I still have plenty of space to go down if I need to. What are some springs I can find to go an additional inch or so lower? Is there any other alternative? I searched but couldn't find anything on the subject. Thanks for your help Here's a picture of how it currently sits. The rear is all the way down but the front is higher than I would like to compensate for the rear.
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EM58NDS 135i Private First Class 21 Rep 169 Posts Drives: 2012 M135i Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	If and when you take rear passengers, that gap will reduce significantly, so it's probably ideal how it is... My ST's only have about 15mm left on the rear to go down, but i get alot of scraping even with 1 rear passenger, so for me i can't risk going any lower.
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A_Squared Banned 46 Rep 363 Posts Drives: n54 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (2)	Man all these complaints about the ST couls not going low enough in the rear has got me scratching my head. Mine tucks if I drop it all the way in the rear. Had to raise it quite a bit when I first installed. Did you remove the cup the stock spring sat in when you installed the new adjuster?
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KyleC Enlisted Member 8 Rep 35 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana iTrader: (0)	I had a shop install them. I'll have to stick my head under and look. Man, if this ends up being the solution I'll give you ten thousand Internet high fives
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KyleC Enlisted Member 8 Rep 35 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana iTrader: (0)	and those are 18's? If so then that pretty much proves they were not installed correctly. Thanks for the help man
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12-13-2014, 10:53 AM	#8
KyleC Enlisted Member 8 Rep 35 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana iTrader: (0)	Yeah I just looked underneath. The perch that the stock spring fits in to was not removed. Looks like it was a shop error. Now I have to wait until monday to try and explain its his fault and get it in there in a timely fashion
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Grinchxvx Lieutenant 29 Rep 414 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salt Lake City iTrader: (0)	This is me with my kW v2 all the way down in the rear. From what I understand they're the same adjustability except for dampening. I never rub with 245 or 255. Attached Images __________________ 2008 Aw/Coral Red Manual 135i Coupe- JB4 G5 + BMS race flash, BMS meth kit, VRSF DP, Big tom Ic, BMS chinese tester CP, Custom Muffler Delete, BMS Oil Cooler Valve, Cowl Filters, Clutch Stop, B&M Short Shifter, Spec Stg 2+ Clutch W/ Oem dmfw, Vmr V710, KW v2, M RSFB, 1M Front and rear Bumper, Performance Side Skirts, slek trunk, Lci blacklines.]
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KyleC Enlisted Member 8 Rep 35 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana iTrader: (0)	I took it back to the shop and he fixed it without issue in an hour and gave me another alignment for free as well as $100 off my next visit. I'm satisfied, and now my 135 looks like it should. I'll post pics soon
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c_ozanich Mech Engr 81 Rep 565 Posts Drives: 2011 135i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Aiken SC iTrader: (0)	I have ST's, bottom of threaded hat sitting flush with bottom of top perch-not sure what you guys consider half way down and what not.
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