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      01-07-2013, 08:47 PM   #23
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Even though its not dct but the new gearbox is lightning quick ! Almost seems like dct shifting!
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A M135i optioned up to the 1M options will be +- the same price as a second hand 1M ($90k)
only problem is its still an N55
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      01-07-2013, 09:37 PM   #25
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A M135i optioned up to the 1M options will be +- the same price as a second hand 1M ($90k)

Guess which car will be worth more relatively in 6 - 12 - 18 - 24 months?????? in fact will ALWAYS be worth more?

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Guess which car will be worth more relatively in 6 - 12 - 18 - 24 months?????? in fact will ALWAYS be worth more?

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is that the 1m, m135 or msport
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      01-07-2013, 10:33 PM   #27
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is that the 1m, m135 or msport
My vert is a M Sport so am I in the ///M group
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      01-07-2013, 11:44 PM   #28
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It's fast becoming a ///Masturbation group.
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      01-08-2013, 01:15 AM   #29
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The ZF8 speed automatic in the M135i pretty much shifts as quick as the DCT 135i Coupe I test drove. DCT downshifts multiple gears better than the M135i from what I experienced.

Anyways, I hope the M2 isn't a limited run like the 1M. I'd also like to see a unique M engine in it, rather than a chipped version of the standard one.
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is that the 1m, m135 or msport
There was nothing sinister in my comments pav, I was just sayin that the 1M in my opinion will have a better retained $ % than say a M135i, same goes for a 335 vee a M3

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My vert is a M Sport so am I in the ///M group
You are special JB, an exception to the norm no doubt

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Thanks for your valuable input.

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The ZF8 speed automatic in the M135i pretty much shifts as quick as the DCT 135i Coupe I test drove. DCT downshifts multiple gears better than the M135i from what I experienced.

Anyways, I hope the M2 isn't a limited run like the 1M. I'd also like to see a unique M engine in it, rather than a chipped version of the standard one.
Limited? 300 cars isn't that limited, you can still get one new if you have the cash.

Reigns, I appreciate you are not as travelled on this site as some of us but there are a few differences between the stock N55 drive train and the 1Ms, more than just a "chip"
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      01-08-2013, 02:56 AM   #31
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Ah ok. N54 in 135i next to N54 in 1M. Lightened flywheel, bigger intercooler, chipped up power output. Am I missing anything? Drive train there are a heck of a lot of differences no doubt about that!

Apologies if my responses are kinda nooby!
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Ah ok. N54 in 135i next to N54 in 1M. Lightened flywheel, bigger intercooler, chipped up power output. Am I missing anything? Drive train there are a heck of a lot of differences no doubt about that!

Apologies if my responses are kinda nooby!

All good Reigns, you got it
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      01-08-2013, 03:26 AM   #33
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Suggest that 1M owners or anyone who has access to a 1M, should take a spirited test drive in the M135i and post your observations between the 2.

From my hands and butt, they are 2 quite different handling cars notwithstanding the close numbers and it's really horses for courses.

And if you aren't convinced about the fugly looks of the M135i (compared to the 135i or 1M), pop in to Trivett Classic. There's a M135i, sitting next to a new VO 1M and 135i.
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      01-08-2013, 03:26 AM   #34
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Post from Way @ http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...1#post13269671 .... POST 34

"Interesting results, but flawed nevertheless. Why? Simple fact that those two times were done a year apart. Different weather, difference in track surfaces."
Mr Way have his way of pointing out facts . That's almost Advevo like.

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is that the 1m, m135 or msport
Are you M enough?

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Looks like we are M enough...

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There was nothing sinister in my comments pav, I was just sayin that the 1M in my opinion will have a better retained $ % than say a M135i, same goes for a 335 vee a M3

You are special JB, an exception to the norm no doubt

Thanks for your valuable input.

Limited? 300 cars isn't that limited, you can still get one new if you have the cash.

Reigns, I appreciate you are not as travelled on this site as some of us but there are a few differences between the stock N55 drive train and the 1Ms, more than just a "chip"
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Same intercooler. Different high flow downpipes, dual mass fly wheel, tune, aux radiator... and most important, a 'go faster' ///M badge engine cover.

So many 1M haters here
Key point here is N55 vs N54. Don't think there are many 1M haters. Some people just don't understand M. They are just not M enough. lol
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      01-08-2013, 03:29 AM   #35
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Same intercooler. Different high flow downpipes, dual mass fly wheel, tune, aux radiator... and most important, a 'go faster' ///M badge engine cover.

So many 1M haters here
I don't think there are too many 1M haters. It's a special vehicle but people are naturally surprised and impressed with the good numbers M135i is churning ... in the same way we were impressed with 1M v M3.

It's great that the forum has been livened up by the addition of another good vehicle which should take our discussions into the 2 series and M2.

Can't wait for the M2!
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      01-08-2013, 04:04 AM   #36
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M135 is fantastic... If it wasn't for the looks, I'd definitely want one. Wait for the facelift in 6 months though. AWD 3 door would be great if was coming to Oz!
Is this the facelift improvement??
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      01-08-2013, 05:07 AM   #37
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^ u talking about the car or the driver
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      01-08-2013, 07:03 AM   #38
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M135 is fantastic... If it wasn't for the looks, I'd definitely want one. Wait for the facelift in 6 months though. AWD 3 door would be great if was coming to Oz!
I had a good drive in it. Better balanced and poised IMO to the point that even my missus has a chance of driving it quick. I guess that's why the 1M is called a driver's car.
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I'm a big fan of the DCT but I think it's 2 biggest downsides are:
- it's not easy to launch, therefore not the best for drag racing
- diff is welded so aftermarket LSD's are 4k +
Everywhere else, the DCT is unbelievable. If these things aren't a concern than the DCT is perfect.

I personally prefer the 8spd because imho, it felt 90% as quick as the DCT which is amazing. I assume the 8spd is bolted as opposed to welded so LSD is only a 2k investment and it shouldn't be any harder to launch than the 6spd steptronics. Plus you've got an extra 2 gears over the N54 step and N55 DCT so fuel economy gets even better on the highway.

Both transmissions are amazing though.
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      01-08-2013, 09:39 PM   #40
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I'm a big fan of the DCT but I think it's 2 biggest downsides are:
- it's not easy to launch, therefore not the best for drag racing
- diff is welded so aftermarket LSD's are 4k +
Everywhere else, the DCT is unbelievable. If these things aren't a concern than the DCT is perfect.

I personally prefer the 8spd because imho, it felt 90% as quick as the DCT which is amazing. I assume the 8spd is bolted as opposed to welded so LSD is only a 2k investment and it shouldn't be any harder to launch than the 6spd steptronics. Plus you've got an extra 2 gears over the N54 step and N55 DCT so fuel economy gets even better on the highway.

Both transmissions are amazing though.
I thought all since about 09 were welded? plus DCT is a 7 cog
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I thought all since about 09 were welded? plus DCT is a 7 cog
Never said DCT wasn't 7 spd

Btw, I'm 09 N54 bolted. My wavetrac was 2k installed incl diff oil. Don't think I'd ever cough up 4k+ for an LSD.
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Never said DCT wasn't 7 spd

Btw, I'm 09 N54 bolted. My wavetrac was 2k installed incl diff oil. Don't think I'd ever cough up 4k+ for an LSD.
I also thought all later models were welded as apparentley this method saves bmw $ in manufacturing costs.

May I ask who installed your diff (I realise you're in qld am im in nsw) and what diff oil do you run? I'm getting ready to organise to have my wavetrac installed, but am thinking i might at well get the subframe bushes, coilovers toe arms sways end links installed whilst she is all apart
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I also thought all later models were welded as apparentley this method saves bmw $ in manufacturing costs.

May I ask who installed your diff (I realise you're in qld am im in nsw) and what diff oil do you run? I'm getting ready to organise to have my wavetrac installed, but am thinking i might at well get the subframe bushes, coilovers toe arms sways end links installed whilst she is all apart
I'm not sure on the reasoning. Yours will be welded since yours is a manual. Accelerate Automotive in Coopers Plains did mine. They've done a few now and I had no issues. I'm using redline 75w140Ns, I think. Dropped the diff oil at 3k because I'm OCD. You have the right idea about installing the other components at the same time as dropping the rear subframe is very labour intensive.
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I'm not sure on the reasoning. Yours will be welded since yours is a manual. Accelerate Automotive in Coopers Plains did mine. They've done a few now and I had no issues. I'm using redline 75w140Ns, I think. Dropped the diff oil at 3k because I'm OCD. You have the right idea about installing the other components at the same time as dropping the rear subframe is very labour intensive.
Mine is bolted by memory all pre mid 07 were all bolted

I have heard its wise to change diff oil as often as your crankcase if you drive your car hard.

And another excuse to buy all the supporting parts also to do with the diff
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