ECU chip?

Obioban · 07-03-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Oh, you mean my tune still makes more power then Evolves tune? 220 SAE and 225 uncorrected and all emissions equipment is still in place. i think that firmly cements me as the most powerful according to SAE numbers and the car is pulling timing across the board. So again, where are your numbers?

I think you missed something-- with evolve you can keep the emissions stuff or eliminate it (and still pass plug in obd2)-- totally up to you. With the other tuners, you have to keep the emissions equipment to pass plug in ond2. That's an evolve benefit over the other tuners, no a downside

Taskmaster · 07-03-2014, 10:54 AM

Lost me power? The car is down on power with and without the tune - even considering this, the car still makes more peak power than before and more than an Evolve car. Stock headers, stock exhaust no CELs to worry about.

You and your brother think it's your way or no way, and you're simply wrong. AA offers a objectively better product (for intake and basic exhaust car) for a lower price and higher gains.

I don't even own any AA products, I'm as objective as it gets!

Obioban · 07-03-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Lost me power? The car is down on power with and without the tune - even considering this, the car still makes more peak power than before and more than an Evolve car. Stock headers, stock exhaust no CELs to worry about.

You and your brother think it's your way or no way, and you're simply wrong. AA offers a objectively better product (for intake and basic exhaust car) for a lower price and higher gains.

I don't even own any AA products, I'm as objective as it gets!

Challenge:
If we put stig's car on a dyno, and it's making more power: will you start saying, in your purely objective opinion, that evolve makes the best tune for the platform?
(Dynojet in sae mode)

Taskmaster · 07-03-2014, 12:31 PM

Sure.

kobeballer96 · 07-03-2014, 12:37 PM

STIG it's been over a year and a half now and still no dyno lol this is true. Let's get you on that dyno so we can all see what the gains are made fully bolted and tuned with evolved. We can't go by butt dynos. Want hard cold facts. And yeah you can say they have dynos of other cars, but let's see yours!

MarkkyyMan · 07-03-2014, 02:07 PM

Why does every tuning thread turn into a debate about how Evolve>All?

Evolve isn't all that in a bag of chips..

Taskmaster · 07-03-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkkyyMan

Why does every tuning thread turn into a debate about how Evolve>All?

Evolve isn't all that in a bag of chips..

Evolve isn't bad, it has it's place - For header cars it allows the ability to pass emissions (in states that require them) Oh, and I don't have a lot of proof or personal experience with them to recommend them over anything else.

To me, it's friendly banter, BUT I do think AA is the superior choice.

topaz557 · 07-03-2014, 02:22 PM

how can i go about purchasing the stage 3 manifold and the evolve stage two tune? do they bundle the two together because if so iv been unable to find it, I'm trying to get this underway within the next week or so and am struggling to find a stage 3 manifold that doesn't come with a tune i don't want ( after doing my research I'm set on the evolve stage two tune)

Taskmaster · 07-03-2014, 02:24 PM

^ I don't know what research you did, but you buy the manifold and the tune Separately.

MarkkyyMan · 07-03-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by topaz557

how can i go about purchasing the stage 3 manifold and the evolve stage two tune? do they bundle the two together because if so iv been unable to find it, I'm trying to get this underway within the next week or so and am struggling to find a stage 3 manifold that doesn't come with a tune i don't want ( after doing my research I'm set on the evolve stage two tune)

You also might want to ensure that your car has the most up to date software available otherwise you could run into complications with Evolve like I did.

Obioban · 07-03-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkkyyMan

You also might want to ensure that your car has the most up to date software available otherwise you could run into complications with Evolve like I did.

They now update your software to the latest version before tuning.

MarkkyyMan · 07-03-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

They now update your software to the latest version before tuning.

Who told you that?

As of a few weeks ago they didn't from what I experienced.

topaz557 · 07-03-2014, 08:41 PM

I'm just going to contact evolve and just try to figure out the tune they will do i currently have a completely stock 128i 2009 n52. as for the manifold where can i purchase that through besides turner?

kobeballer96 · 07-04-2014, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by topaz557

I'm just going to contact evolve and just try to figure out the tune they will do i currently have a completely stock 128i 2009 n52. as for the manifold where can i purchase that through besides turner?

eBay. eBay.de and eBay.uk

Here's one super good deal. Pm seller if he would ship to the states, he already said he would ship to Germany so im sure he's flexible. I was looking at this one a long time ago but needed up picking one up local from a member here in Germany.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-BMW-1...:X:EAC:US:3160

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Taskmaster Banned 2465 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	Lost me power? The car is down on power with and without the tune - even considering this, the car still makes more peak power than before and more than an Evolve car. Stock headers, stock exhaust no CELs to worry about. You and your brother think it's your way or no way, and you're simply wrong. AA offers a objectively better product (for intake and basic exhaust car) for a lower price and higher gains. I don't even own any AA products, I'm as objective as it gets!
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kobeballer96 Major 175 Rep 1,491 Posts Drives: 6SPD E82 Join Date: May 2013 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (4)	STIG it's been over a year and a half now and still no dyno lol this is true. Let's get you on that dyno so we can all see what the gains are made fully bolted and tuned with evolved. We can't go by butt dynos. Want hard cold facts. And yeah you can say they have dynos of other cars, but let's see yours! __________________ Black Wrapped Roof, BFG Rivals, Dinan Camber plates, M3 Steering wheel, Matte Black kidney Grills, H&R Sport springs, Sparco assetto gara,Pagid sport Brakepads,STOPTECH Slotted Rotors, DISA STG3,EURO BOX
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MarkkyyMan Captain 38 Rep 701 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 128i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indiana, U.S. iTrader: (0)	Why does every tuning thread turn into a debate about how Evolve>All? Evolve isn't all that in a bag of chips.. __________________ http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=968996
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topaz557 Private 7 Rep 64 Posts Drives: Bmw 135i Crimson Red 6MT Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	how can i go about purchasing the stage 3 manifold and the evolve stage two tune? do they bundle the two together because if so iv been unable to find it, I'm trying to get this underway within the next week or so and am struggling to find a stage 3 manifold that doesn't come with a tune i don't want ( after doing my research I'm set on the evolve stage two tune)
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Taskmaster Banned 2465 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	^ I don't know what research you did, but you buy the manifold and the tune Separately.
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topaz557 Private 7 Rep 64 Posts Drives: Bmw 135i Crimson Red 6MT Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	I'm just going to contact evolve and just try to figure out the tune they will do i currently have a completely stock 128i 2009 n52. as for the manifold where can i purchase that through besides turner?
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