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      03-12-2018, 11:39 AM   #1
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Have you guys noticed that 1Addicts has far fewer posts about shit blowing up/catastrophic failures compared to E90post? I get that there are more 335i's than there are 135i's so there is a larger sample size, but I still hardly ever see anything about 135i's going through catastrophic engine failure. So to me this means that either the 135i is more reliable than the 335i or, most likely, 1 series owners take better care of their cars
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Probably a combination of a smaller amount of 1'ers and we seem to take better and more preventative (read as extra, sometimes unnecessary) care of our cars (knowing that there are NO replacements in-production anymore).
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Probably a combination of a smaller amount of 1'ers and we seem to take better and more preventative (read as extra, sometimes unnecessary) care of our cars (knowing that there are NO replacements in-production anymore).
And... we're 1ADDICTS and we just love our cars MORE!
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It's because once the 1's get power they either sell or crash. Not enough run time to blow up.
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      03-13-2018, 01:26 AM   #6
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It's because once the 1's get power they either sell or crash. Not enough run time to blow up.
They are the same car. It would be foolish to say the 135i is more reliable than a 335i and vice versa.

I think you nailed it best: there are less 1er's than 3er's.

That being said if I was to have a project car, it would be a 135i or 135is because of the smaller chassis/ weight savings.

But I love my E93 335i. She's a beauty.
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I think you nailed it best: there are less 1er's than 3er's.

That being said if I was to have a project car, it would be a 135i or 135is because of the smaller chassis/ weight savings.
My guess is the 1 series started out as the cheap BMW. The lowest in a line of BMW products. However, it is now an enthusiast car, more so than a 3 series. Why because it's more unique, different and special. That an only true enthusiasts would care about the weight savings.

The other reason is the chassis has no realistically priced m car. I can have a e90 m car for a third of the original sticker. Not so with the 1m. That makes the 135i even more valuable and special on the used market.
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My guess is the 1 series started out as the cheap BMW. The lowest in a line of BMW products. However, it is now an enthusiast car, more so than a 3 series. Why because it's more unique, different and special. That an only true enthusiasts would care about the weight savings.

The other reason is the chassis has no realistically priced m car. I can have a e90 m car for a third of the original sticker. Not so with the 1m. That makes the 135i even more valuable and special on the used market.
Not to mention that you can get pretty close to the performance of a 1M, for much less money, on a 135i (or 128i, because NA) and then have a car that you won't be afraid to drive into the ground, and enjoy the whole way there...
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They are the same car. It would be foolish to say the 135i is more reliable than a 335i and vice versa.

I think you nailed it best: there are less 1er's than 3er's.

That being said if I was to have a project car, it would be a 135i or 135is because of the smaller chassis/ weight savings.

But I love my E93 335i. She's a beauty.


Complete miss on my remark, sorta.



I was eluding to the 1er being lighter, less tire, shorter, narrower. A recipe for disaster. You look through crashed insurance auctions and you'll see that many of the 1's look modified. The 3's don't.
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Many of the 3 series 335's were leases. One oil change per year and at the end of 3 or 4 years were auctioned out. Car never saw good maintenance as far as I know and turbos need clean oil and sometimes, a bit of cool down.
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135s are quite rare. I see 335s all the time. So going by quantity is very misleading anyway.
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Don't forget about 07 Kline 335i cars. I really wonder how many of the 335i failures are in that group.

Seen plenty of N54 135i cars go pop. Seems to happen rather quickly once you put a set of large twins on and dial up the boost to levels in excess of 650-700whp. Emphasis on large twins.
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Don't forget about 07 Kline 335i cars. I really wonder how many of the 335i failures are in that group.

Seen plenty of N54 135i cars go pop. Seems to happen rather quickly once you put a set of large twins on and dial up the boost to levels in excess of 650-700whp. Emphasis on large twins.
What about single turbo conversions?
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135s are quite rare. I see 335s all the time. So going by quantity is very misleading anyway.
In general - a lot more E90s E92s than E82s so naturally...we hear more issues about 3 series...
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      03-13-2018, 09:34 PM   #15
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My guess is the 1 series started out as the cheap BMW. The lowest in a line of BMW products. However, it is now an enthusiast car, more so than a 3 series. Why because it's more unique, different and special. That an only true enthusiasts would care about the weight savings.

The other reason is the chassis has no realistically priced m car. I can have a e90 m car for a third of the original sticker. Not so with the 1m. That makes the 135i even more valuable and special on the used market.
I couldn't agree more. When you see a fully worked 335i the first thing I think is "why didn't you start with a M3?". Whereas, the 1M's are so rare and trade at such a premium compared to a 135i, there's much more incentive to buy the non-m and modify it up to spec.

I for one never considered the 335i, I was always comparing an E46 M3, E90 M3 or an E88 135i. It wasn't so much about the weight (hey, I drive a vert, weight obviously wasn't a concern), it was about the size. The 135i is so much smaller and 'throwable' than the full-size 335i.

As for reliability - I'm thinking because it's rarer and more enthusiast owned, the 135i owners are more likely to take the N54 issues in their stride and fix them; rather than the more 'mainstream' 3-series.
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Smaller number of cars. E90's sold way more and due to four doors serve more roles than our coupes and tend to get driven more. We are just as 'unreliable' or demand as much maintenance and care as they do.
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Ultimately, the reason lies within the numbers.

However, I do think as 1 series enthusiasts we collectively care for our cars more, perform more DIY's / preventative maintenance, and generally are smarter with our cars, and that could play a small role in it.
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Ultimately, the reason lies within the numbers.

However, I do think as 1 series enthusiasts we collectively care for our cars more, perform more DIY's / preventative maintenance, and generally are smarter with our cars, and that could play a small role in it.

(yes, shots fired at all the highschool kids who think their hot shit in their 150k, auto, 335i that they bought for 7K with wastegate rattle and various oil leaks) lol
Lmfao not to mention I've never seen a "how much hp do red hood scoops add" thread on 1addicts how are you liking the new car btw? I'm still a bit surprised you decided to go with another N54 135i
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Lmfao not to mention I've never seen a "how much hp do red hood scoops add" thread on 1addicts how are you liking the new car btw? I'm still a bit surprised you decided to go with another N54 135i
absolutely loving it. I've put 388 miles on it in 6 days since I bought it! although its stock, it seems to handle much better than my 08 135i did.
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Compare apples to apples. The e90 n54 335i was 06-2010, and e90 n55 was 2010 to 2013. E82 n54 2008-10 & n55 2010 to 2013. The e90 is inexpensive and non-enthusiasts buying them don't care for them like 1addicts will generally. Any BMW that doesn't get regular maintenance will have issues at some point. They are not vehicles that can be neglected.
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What about single turbo conversions?
Emphasis on big twins. Singles produce less torque below 3500rpm and are not as likely to munch a rod.
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Don't forget about 07 Kline 335i cars. I really wonder how many of the 335i failures are in that group.

Seen plenty of N54 135i cars go pop. Seems to happen rather quickly once you put a set of large twins on and dial up the boost to levels in excess of 650-700whp. Emphasis on large twins.
Why does anyone think an engine designed for 300/300 @ the crank should live long at approaching triple the stock power?
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