The showdown we've all been waiting for....135i vs. Cayman

SA135i · 02-03-2008, 01:37 PM

According to this, Fifth gear will be doing a shootout between the 135i and the Porsche Cayman in their show on 18th Feb. :w00t:

"This week, Tiff Needell and Jason Plato go headto-head in pair of £30,000 coupes: the new BMW 135i Coupe and the Porsche Cayman. They put the cars through a series of extreme performance tests to see which one has the edge – the more powerful BMW or the more expensive Porsche."

http://forums.finalgear.com/fifth-ge...-2008-a-25044/

Does anyone know how soon after the show that the videos are available on the net as we run a season behind, and this has to be one of the most eagerly awaited showdowns.

MrRoboto · 02-03-2008, 01:43 PM

You can get the vids hours after they run. FinalGear.com will have the link to the torrent on the main page.

This is great news both Tiff and Jason are great drivers and will definitely give the 135 a sound flogging.

ScullyD · 02-03-2008, 02:35 PM

EVO Magazine said the 135i feels faster than a Cayman S, so i would imagine it will absolutely smoke the regular Cayman in a straight line. In a race around a track I imagine it would be close. But as for a buying decision, given daily usability, price, image, I think the 135i is the choice hands down.

The regular Cayman is an embarrassing car, it seems like it would only be bought by someone who has to have a Porsche car, cause people say the Boxster seems more delicate steering feel-wise, and its not like either would be more usable in bad weather or a daily drive (its a mid engined sports car after all). I'd have a Boxster way before a Cayman, and a 135i i'd have over both of them.

Twisted · 02-03-2008, 02:51 PM

18th of feb too far away arrggghhh...

Thanks for the info though. I'm hoping when Top Gear starts S11 that they'll be putting the 135i through its paces in an early episode

SA135i · 02-03-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted

18th of feb too far away arrggghhh...

Thanks for the info though. I'm hoping when Top Gear starts S11 that they'll be putting the 135i through its paces in an early episode

Yes 18th Feb is far away, but it is a little milestone that gets me 2 weeks closer to getting my car :thumbup:

I'm also hoping that TopGear will do a comparison early on in season 11 and it will be interesting to see Jeremy's take on it given his 5 star rating in the press.

slipkmaggot · 02-03-2008, 03:39 PM

when does s11 of topgear start?

AwesomeBMW · 02-03-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slipkmaggot

when does s11 of topgear start?

I thought I read summer somewhere:iono:

lifesaride · 02-03-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

EVO Magazine said the 135i feels faster than a Cayman S, so i would imagine it will absolutely smoke the regular Cayman in a straight line. In a race around a track I imagine it would be close. But as for a buying decision, given daily usability, price, image, I think the 135i is the choice hands down.

The regular Cayman is an embarrassing car, it seems like it would only be bought by someone who has to have a Porsche car, cause people say the Boxster seems more delicate steering feel-wise, and its not like either would be more usable in bad weather or a daily drive (its a mid engined sports car after all). I'd have a Boxster way before a Cayman, and a 135i i'd have over both of them.

I doubt think that many Cayman owners need their Caymans for hauling on the way to work, so I'd think it wouldn't matter. I hear you're right though and dealers are giving some pretty nice discounts to move them. Maybe the Boxster's appeal was in that it's a convertible?

I can't wait to see this.

Sephiroth · 02-03-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

The regular Cayman is an embarrassing car, it seems like it would only be bought by someone who has to have a Porsche car, cause people say the Boxster seems more delicate steering feel-wise, and its not like either would be more usable in bad weather or a daily drive (its a mid engined sports car after all). I'd have a Boxster way before a Cayman, and a 135i i'd have over both of them.

No matter how you look at it, the Cayman is the better balanced car. That car has incredible potential just waiting to be unleashed.

Robert · 02-03-2008, 11:34 PM

Cayman, get ready to get a riped a new one!

spudw · 02-04-2008, 11:28 AM

When they define expectations by saying "...to see which one has the edge – the more powerful BMW or the more expensive Porsche..." it'll be hard for the comparison to be disfavorable to the 135i. If it's seen to be inferior overall, it's still more powerful and less expensive. Pressure's on the Cayman...

Price diff in Canada is about $21,000 between the Cayman ($63K) and the 135i ($41,700), so it'll really be about "how good a value is the 135i?"...

Twisted · 02-04-2008, 11:35 AM

Well i don't know how they're comparing it but i think here, pricing must be crazy then... because a 2nd hand / used Cayman is around double the price of a 135i, so for me the decision would be simple.

M3Newbie88 · 02-04-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1love

No matter how you look at it, the Cayman is the better balanced car. That car has incredible potential just waiting to be unleashed.

Have you driven a cayman..?

I test drove it.. its slow, not comfortable, gear box is stiff as hell and expensive thou I cant deny the handling.. but when the suspension is as stiff as a M3 to begin with you better expect that.. maybe a Cayman S with more power..

TP 135i · 02-04-2008, 12:05 PM

Two different cars........both great in their own right.
The Cayman sounds great. rides tight,handles like a go cart and is a fast car. I't comfortable for long drives and can fit much more in it than people are aware.
When I get my 135 I can do a good real world evaluation of the two.
The track times are one thing and real world driving experence is another.
I plan to have great fun driving them back to back on the same roads.

:roundel: :smile: :roundel: :smile:

And yes...the Cayman cost way more (actually we have an S)

02-03-2008, 01:37 PM	#1
SA135i First Lieutenant 14 Rep 333 Posts Drives: Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (0)	The showdown we've all been waiting for....135i vs. Cayman According to this, Fifth gear will be doing a shootout between the 135i and the Porsche Cayman in their show on 18th Feb. :w00t: "This week, Tiff Needell and Jason Plato go headto-head in pair of £30,000 coupes: the new BMW 135i Coupe and the Porsche Cayman. They put the cars through a series of extreme performance tests to see which one has the edge – the more powerful BMW or the more expensive Porsche." http://forums.finalgear.com/fifth-ge...-2008-a-25044/ Does anyone know how soon after the show that the videos are available on the net as we run a season behind, and this has to be one of the most eagerly awaited showdowns. __________________ "But don't be surprised if you completely forget about your passengers when driving this car. You will be mesmerised by the feel of the fat, well-weighted steering wheel in your hands, the sound from the specially tuned exhaust, and the in-gear acceleration that will have you grinning like a loon...." TopCar magazine (SA)
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MrRoboto Brigadier General 1846 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	You can get the vids hours after they run. FinalGear.com will have the link to the torrent on the main page. This is great news both Tiff and Jason are great drivers and will definitely give the 135 a sound flogging.
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ScullyD Senior 1Addict 5166 Rep 2,426 Posts Drives: BMW iX, Porsche GT4 RS Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 M5 CS [10.00] 2022 BMW iX [10.00]	EVO Magazine said the 135i feels faster than a Cayman S, so i would imagine it will absolutely smoke the regular Cayman in a straight line. In a race around a track I imagine it would be close. But as for a buying decision, given daily usability, price, image, I think the 135i is the choice hands down. The regular Cayman is an embarrassing car, it seems like it would only be bought by someone who has to have a Porsche car, cause people say the Boxster seems more delicate steering feel-wise, and its not like either would be more usable in bad weather or a daily drive (its a mid engined sports car after all). I'd have a Boxster way before a Cayman, and a 135i i'd have over both of them.
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Twisted TwistedHouse 0 Rep 55 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (0)	18th of feb too far away arrggghhh... Thanks for the info though. I'm hoping when Top Gear starts S11 that they'll be putting the 135i through its paces in an early episode
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slipkmaggot First Lieutenant 15 Rep 361 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	when does s11 of topgear start? __________________ :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel:
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Cayman, get ready to get a riped a new one! __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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spudw Major 70 Rep 1,305 Posts Drives: 2009 128i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	When they define expectations by saying "...to see which one has the edge – the more powerful BMW or the more expensive Porsche..." it'll be hard for the comparison to be disfavorable to the 135i. If it's seen to be inferior overall, it's still more powerful and less expensive. Pressure's on the Cayman... Price diff in Canada is about $21,000 between the Cayman ($63K) and the 135i ($41,700), so it'll really be about "how good a value is the 135i?"... __________________ 2009 BMW 128i ~ Jet Black ~ Sport Package ~ Sunroof ~ USB Integration ~ Delivered on October 14, 2009
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Twisted TwistedHouse 0 Rep 55 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (0)	Well i don't know how they're comparing it but i think here, pricing must be crazy then... because a 2nd hand / used Cayman is around double the price of a 135i, so for me the decision would be simple.
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TP 135i Major 29 Rep 1,340 Posts Drives: 2008 135i SGM MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finksburg, Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 1995 Acura Integra SE [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00] 2006 Porsche Cayman S [0.00] 1999 Toyota 4-Runner [0.00]	Two different cars........both great in their own right. The Cayman sounds great. rides tight,handles like a go cart and is a fast car. I't comfortable for long drives and can fit much more in it than people are aware. When I get my 135 I can do a good real world evaluation of the two. The track times are one thing and real world driving experence is another. I plan to have great fun driving them back to back on the same roads. :roundel: :smile: :roundel: :smile: And yes...the Cayman cost way more (actually we have an S)
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