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      09-17-2010, 04:22 AM   #1
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am I crazy to consider tune for leased '11 135?

seeing these new threads for the BMS and Vishnu N55 tunes has my heart pounding, and my wallet wincing. I have a three year lease for my 135 coupe. are these tunes safe enough for people who lease?

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      09-17-2010, 04:39 AM   #2
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Sure why not! It is your car until you turn it back in. You might as well enjoy it while you drive/have it.
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      09-17-2010, 07:15 AM   #3
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My impression is around 80% of the members here are tuning leased cars.
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      09-17-2010, 07:33 AM   #4
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My impression is around 80% of the members here are tuning leased cars.
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      09-17-2010, 08:08 AM   #5
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My impression is around 80% of the members here are tuning leased cars.
Took the words right out of my mouth! 100% you are right.
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      09-17-2010, 09:45 AM   #6
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what about a Dinan stage I?? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds, increased power without risk to the warranty??
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Dinan is not part of BMW...

No difference between din an and the other tuners as it relates to your BMW warranty. You can be screwed either way.
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      09-17-2010, 02:38 PM   #8
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Wow, really 80% of people are on leases? That sucks
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      09-17-2010, 02:49 PM   #9
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While I enjoy tunes, do at your own risk

Tuning automatically voids the ability to CPO the car.

If you want to tune and not worry, spend the cash and get BMW Performance. If you want to 'play it safe,' get DINAN. If you want to play fast, Vishnu or Burger!
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      09-17-2010, 03:01 PM   #10
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yeah, dinan supplies their own warranty I believe because I had a leased 335i with dinan stage 2 and it didn't void the warranty
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      09-17-2010, 03:04 PM   #11
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seeing these new threads for the BMS and Vishnu N55 tunes has my heart pounding, and my wallet wincing. I have a three year lease for my 135 coupe. are these tunes safe enough for people who lease?

thx
You are crazy NOT to consider a tune IMO

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Dinan tuned cars are not covered by BMW.

Dinan have a warranty and it's better than the tuners that leave you hanging, but it's not a BMW warranted tune.
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      09-17-2010, 04:31 PM   #13
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I have a 2011 135i leased and i already have a JB3 installed. Amazing. I love it.
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      09-17-2010, 09:35 PM   #14
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On the other hand, what are the consequences if you are caught with a tune on the leased vehicle?

Do you have to purchase it immediately with no warranty? Can you afford that?
I don't know if you'd have to purchase immediately. But other than that possibility, the consequences are the same with a loan purchase or cash purchase.
You might lose the warranty, IF they discover it.

I had a tune on a former Audi lease. It was an APR flash install, so nothing external to see. Plus, it had a stock mode, which was easy to set using various button pushes of the cruise control buttons.
When going to the dealer, you just switch to stock mode to not draw attention. Then you set a lock out code, so that if the dealer knows to try the cruise controls for alternate programs, nothing will happen.
APR and GIAC make slick software for Audi/VW.

GIAC has one for the 135i, but the cost is a good bit higher than what it costs for an Audi tune. Audi APR on sale was about $500. GIAC wants like $1000 for the 135i. I think it costs that much just because they can.
Development for the 135i/335i is no higher than for the A4/VW 2.0T.
Both brands have plenty of turbo cars on the road for return on investment. I digress, sorry.

With a flash you can't just remove it and sell it, like you can with JB. So, a JB has the added benefit of resale, so it's probably a better choice for a lease.

OP, go for it. The sooner you get a tune, the longer you'll get to enjoy it and get a longer return on your investment.
I waited a year on my Audi, so I only got 2 years of higher performance, so it cost me more per year.
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      09-17-2010, 09:41 PM   #15
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Wow, really 80% of people are on leases? That sucks
The general number is that about 50% of BMW sales are lease.

But, why does that suck?

BMW runs a very smart lease program, and does very well with CPO cars.
Leasing allows initial owners to pay for the depreciation, and then dealers have used and CPO'd cars to sell to those who would otherwise not be able to purchase a BMW brand new. BMW has great residuals, compared to the other "luxury" brands. BMW's are sought after cars in the used market.
The big lease market also helps those who loan or cash purchase, because of the great residuals.
I don't see how that sucks for any of us.
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      09-17-2010, 10:37 PM   #16
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Even if you went Dinan, you would essentially void the BMW Drivetrain warranty while maintaing a Dinan Warranty. However, if BMW were to find the tune they would not be able to CPO the car because it was modded. BMW no longer has a dual warranty with Dinan.
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      09-18-2010, 12:08 AM   #17
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The general number is that about 50% of BMW sales are lease.

But, why does that suck?

BMW runs a very smart lease program, and does very well with CPO cars.
Leasing allows initial owners to pay for the depreciation, and then dealers have used and CPO'd cars to sell to those who would otherwise not be able to purchase a BMW brand new. BMW has great residuals, compared to the other "luxury" brands. BMW's are sought after cars in the used market.
The big lease market also helps those who loan or cash purchase, because of the great residuals.
I don't see how that sucks for any of us.
Sucks for the person leasing I've never leased and don't plan on it. I just like to own it out right without having a give-back date. Just my opinion though, leasing works out well for others I suppose.
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      09-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #18
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While I own the car (N54) its under warranty and I went with the JB+ and Scan Tool. I pop it off, check for codes when I go to the dealer.

Since its a leased car - just take a simpler approach (as I did) and you will have a great DD that is balanced between the stock and modded worlds..
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      09-19-2010, 12:04 AM   #19
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Wow, really 80% of people are on leases? That sucks
When I went to the dealer to buy my car they were laughing at me saying that all the cars are lease why did I wanted to buy........I bought still
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      09-19-2010, 02:20 AM   #20
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thanks everyone for chiming in. appreciate your opinions. glad to hear that the general consensus is go for it. that's what i wanted to hear!!!
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      09-20-2010, 04:28 PM   #21
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I have leased both of my cars. I am currently 24 month leasing a stage 2+ car with every mod possible.

At month 22 I just put it back to stock and lease the next N54.
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      09-21-2010, 01:50 PM   #22
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I If you're going to do it at least put the supporting mods such as FMIC, DP's etc...
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