BMW 1M Coupe Partially Unveiled at Oktoberfest! [INFO, VIDEO & PHOTOS]

niuniu · 08-29-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

join my 6MT club.

Forum wars are Go!

Advevo · 08-29-2010, 05:38 PM

Segler talks about low weight and throttle response.

If this thing weight above 1400kg than it s all a bunch of marketing b.llsh.t. talk overthere.

The car looks is fantastic.

M2 · 08-29-2010, 05:40 PM

History of the 1M...
~First there were discussions that there would be a TTi or an 135is version.
~ once the 1M name was confirmed the arguing started:
~ it was argued that if it didn't have quad exhaust it wouldn't be a real M.
~ it was argued that it wouldn't have a LSD, therefore it wouldn't be a real M.
~it was argued that it wasn't NA so it was not a real M.
~Now it has been verified that it is called 1M, that is will come with quad exhaust, that is will have a LSD and that it will have an inline 6 (with turbo's?) and will be a M car.

Now the boards are filling up with the manual versus DCT wars. Who cares. If it comes with a manual then manual drivers will be in heaven and if they also offer it in a DCT then everyone will be happy. let's enjoy the fact that BMW made the car and we are all excited to see what it will drive like. I for one cant wait. I swore I wouldn't buy one but if it's base is in the mid 40's I'm in.

By the way, I found a PIC of the 1M car, fully uncovered.

southlight · 08-29-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by niuniu

Forum wars are Go!

Nah, I hope you're wrong.

Best regards,
south

J-boogey · 08-29-2010, 05:45 PM

Wow can't wait to get my hands on one of these

BLITZ · 08-29-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eugegall

Anyone got an answer?

Cars in the US are always much cheaper. Not fair really.

03BeastCharmer · 08-29-2010, 06:43 PM

Here are my pics of the diff and car. Just got back from Ofest, it was a blast

Road America was a lot of fun, and I had to give the point by to a few 135i. Those turbos were more than the E36 M3 could handle.

SCOTT26 · 08-29-2010, 07:07 PM

I am going to give you a clue.... The 1M powertrain is a Hybrid.

And when I mean Hybrid do not think of the current meaning of "Hybrid" - ie Alternative power , Electricity etc.... and use the original meaning of hybrid.

" When Two seperate entities become one".

Remember BMW evaluate every idea to determine what is the solution?

tkbr0wn · 08-29-2010, 07:11 PM

So, its a N55 Twin Turbo and will be called the S55?

Dackelone · 08-29-2010, 07:14 PM

Speaking of the 1M's power plant... Auto Motor und Sport ran a little burb in thier latest issue. AMundS reports that the engine will be a SINGLE (ein) turbo 3.0L six with around 350 PS (DIN).

They also say that the car will debut before the end of this year with German sales starting in the Spring of 2011. JOY!

tkbr0wn · 08-29-2010, 07:17 PM

So that would mean a single (twinscroll?) N54?

gbridger · 08-29-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by M3_CSL_E92

Bimmerfile states that it will indeed come with a N54 engine.
But Scott said it will be a N55.

So if Scott is right, all the other small info about the M1 from bimmerfile is just their own observations or is the rest trustworthy?

Seems to me like they just read the forums and chose what sounds best.
But i don´t know how they know the name of the color..

This is why I never post to forums

But I have such a soft spot in my heart fo 1addicts because I've always loved the 135i so much. I think yesterday was my first post in almost three years.

Anyway the info we've reported on BF is 100% accurate. No manual (I mentioned this on BF and here before Scott's confirmation) and I am 99.9% sure the N54 based. Why? I'll have a post up on BF in a few hours explaining it all. But the thing you have to remember is none of the info is made up. It would never go on the BimmerFile if it was.

I totally respect that you are challenging the statements but I will just add that consider our track record. I think it's generally pretty solid.

BForbes · 08-29-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gbridger

This is why I never post to forums

But I have such a soft spot in my heart fo 1addicts because I've always loved the 135i so much. I think yesterday was my first post in almost three years.

Anyway the info we've reported on BF is 100% accurate. No manual (I mentioned this on BF and here before Scott's confirmation) and I am 99.9% sure the N54 based. Why? I'll have a post up on BF in a few hours explaining it all. But the thing you have to remember is none of the info is made up. It would never go on the BimmerFile if it was.

I totally respect that you are challenging the statements but I will just add that consider our track record. I think it's generally pretty solid.

BimmerFile has never led me wrong. Thanks for the input, Gabe. I look forward to reading what you post in the next few hours!!

Justin(OKC) · 08-29-2010, 07:30 PM

I am loving that color and am thinking it might be nice to park that next to my Henna Red E30 M3. I must admit that I am a little torn between my decision for my next car. There is a big part of me that wants an M3 sedan with an IND CF roof. Can't wait to see how this 1M unfolds...

Dackelone · 08-29-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

So that would mean a single (twinscroll?) N54?

Nein! No!!

Single (ein = one) Turbo means N55! But we shal see.

IS3andME · 08-29-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gbridger

This is why I never post to forums

But I have such a soft spot in my heart fo 1addicts because I've always loved the 135i so much. I think yesterday was my first post in almost three years.

Anyway the info we've reported on BF is 100% accurate. No manual (I mentioned this on BF and here before Scott's confirmation) and I am 99.9% sure the N54 based. Why? I'll have a post up on BF in a few hours explaining it all. But the thing you have to remember is none of the info is made up. It would never go on the BimmerFile if it was.

I totally respect that you are challenging the statements but I will just add that consider our track record. I think it's generally pretty solid.

I had noticed on the BF statement the "we are ALMOST Certain..." in regards to the tranny option. Anytime anyone says "almost", that leaves a margin of error. That's like being "almost certain" that someone stole from you, but not having the concrete info that they really did.

Also, if you notice that Scott gave a long winded answer, instead of saying just, "No it won't have M-DCT." This to me suggests that there is a large possibility that if will not, but maybe judging by the outcry or reaction it "just might". I think that they will gauge by the reaction on the forums and may change a few things. If they keep the MT, chances are it's because of the encroachment on the M3 and a rush job. All I know, is they better give the carbonfiber roof as a option...

SCOTT26 · 08-29-2010, 07:39 PM

Do a Poll. or a vote and I will make sure it is looked at.

Jaguar66 · 08-29-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

So that would mean a single (twinscroll?) N54?

Seems to make sense. The only other major difference would be valvetronic fuel injection. If it had that it would be N55 based, so it probably won't have that.

tkbr0wn · 08-29-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Nein! No!!

Single (ein = one) Turbo means N55! But we shal see.

He said a Hybrid, So wouldn't that lead you to believe that its a N54 with a single turbo or a N55 with a twin turbo?

gbridger · 08-29-2010, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IS3andME

I had noticed on the BF statement the "we are ALMOST Certain..." in regards to the tranny option. Anytime anyone says "almost", that leaves a margin of error. That's like being "almost certain" that someone stole from you, but not having the concrete info that they really did.

Ah I wish it were that simple! It's quite frustrating to not just put up definitive headlines but there are times (like now) that we can't for one reason or another.

Think of it this way... there have been times in the past that we knew something but simply couldn't report it as definitive fact. I'm not saying this is one of those times. But I'm not saying it isn't.

Jaguar66 · 08-29-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Do a Poll. or a vote and I will make sure it is looked at.

A poll showing what? If a person had the option of ordering or selecting an M-DCT (M Dual Clutch Transmission), no matter the cost, would they select that as their transmission of choice?

Dackelone · 08-29-2010, 07:51 PM

I think the reason why we won't see a DTC slush box is bc of the added complexity of the M// specs features. Such as launch control and more shift modes & speed adjustments.

Plus BMW would have to fully test all those features with DCT and ABS systems. I think this would add too much R&D time to that option. I do think they will offer it before we see the current 1M be replaced by the F20 version.

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M2 Lieutenant 58 Rep 503 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	History of the 1M... ~First there were discussions that there would be a TTi or an 135is version. ~ once the 1M name was confirmed the arguing started: ~ it was argued that if it didn't have quad exhaust it wouldn't be a real M. ~ it was argued that it wouldn't have a LSD, therefore it wouldn't be a real M. ~it was argued that it wasn't NA so it was not a real M. ~Now it has been verified that it is called 1M, that is will come with quad exhaust, that is will have a LSD and that it will have an inline 6 (with turbo's?) and will be a M car. Now the boards are filling up with the manual versus DCT wars. Who cares. If it comes with a manual then manual drivers will be in heaven and if they also offer it in a DCT then everyone will be happy. let's enjoy the fact that BMW made the car and we are all excited to see what it will drive like. I for one cant wait. I swore I wouldn't buy one but if it's base is in the mid 40's I'm in. By the way, I found a PIC of the 1M car, fully uncovered. Attached Images __________________ MM Last edited by M2; 08-29-2010 at 05:47 PM..
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Dackelone European Editor 10528 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	I think the reason why we won't see a DTC slush box is bc of the added complexity of the M// specs features. Such as launch control and more shift modes & speed adjustments. Plus BMW would have to fully test all those features with DCT and ABS systems. I think this would add too much R&D time to that option. I do think they will offer it before we see the current 1M be replaced by the F20 version.
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