Nurburgring times...

adrean8j · 01-06-2009, 12:05 PM

I have been wondering this for a while:

Are there any "official" or "unofficial" Nurburgring lap-times for the 135i? From either BMW themselves or maybe an "independant" magazine...tuner? I did a search and everything so far has been regular owners taking pics or describing their experience on the track....Thanks peeps!

adrean8j · 01-06-2009, 02:26 PM

Dave · 01-06-2009, 02:29 PM

7:26.4 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT
7:29 --- Nissan GT-R R35
7:31 --- Porsche 997 GT2
7:32 --- Pagani Zonda F
7:34 --- Koenigsegg CCR
7:36 --- Mercedes SL63 AMG Black Series
7:37 --- Honda NSX test mule
7:38 --- Mercedes SLR 722 GT
7.39 --- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
7.39 --- Porsche 997 GT3
7:40 --- Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
7:40 --- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz SLR
7:42 --- Ford GT
7:42 --- Porsche 997 GT3 RS
7:42.9 - Chevrolet Corvette Z06
7:43 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12 S
7:45 --- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series
7:45 --- McLaren F1
7:46 --- Jaguar XJ220
7:46 --- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 --- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
7.49 --- Porsche 996 GT3
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL
7:50 --- Porsche 997 Carrera S
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo
7:54 --- Porsche 997 Turbo
7:54 --- Porsche 993 GT3
7:55 --- Ferrari F430 F1
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56.7 - Honda NSX Type R
7:58 --- Audi RS4 <-- fastest 4 door sedan record
7:59 --- Porsche 997
7:59 --- Chevrolet C6 Z51
7:59 --- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R
7:59.2 - Cadillac CTS-V
8:01.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
8:03.8 - Honda NSX
8:04 --- Audi R8
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT
8:05 --- BMW M3 V8
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1
8:05 --- Ruf CTR
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- Subaru WRX Sti Spec C
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello
8:07.7 - BMW M6
8:08.7 - Porsche 993 Turbo
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 --- Aston Martin V8 Vantage
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
8:11 --- Porsche Cayman S
8:13 --- BMW M5
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10
8:14 --- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series
8:14 --- Mitsubishi Evo VIII GSR
8:15 --- BMW Z4 M Roadster
8:15 --- Porsche 997 Carrera 2
8:16 --- Aston Martin DB9
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish
8:17 --- Renault R26.R
8:18 --- BMW Z8
8:18 --- Ferrari F355
8:20 --- Audi RS6
8:20 --- BMW M3 E36
8:20 --- Camaro SS (2010)
8:22 --- BMW M3 E46
8:22 --- BMW M Coupe
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55
8:22.3 - Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
8:22.8 - Chevrolet Cobalt SS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT
8:23 --- Porsche Boxster S
8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
8:24 --- Audi S5
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi
8:25 --- Lotus Exige S
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VI
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Evo VII
8:26 --- BMW 335i Coupé
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z
8:28 --- BMW E49 M5
8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG
8:31 --- 2006 Cadillac STS-V
8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG
8:32 --- Lotus Exige
8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk IV
8:35 --- BMW 130i
8:35 --- BMW M3 SMG E36
8:36 --- Porsche Boxster
8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG
8:39 --- Honda S2000
8:39 --- Mazdaspeed3
8:39.2 - BMW 135i
8:40 --- Audi TT 2.0 TFSU
8:40 --- Cadillac CTS
8:42 --- Audi TT 1.8 Quattro
8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R
8:43.5 - Chevrolet HHR SS
8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R
8:50 --- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG
8:52 --- VW Golf GTI DSG
8:54 --- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary
8:55 --- Mini Cooper S Works

Dave · 01-06-2009, 02:31 PM

8:39... not so impressive but this car is not meant to be a track monster

i still love it

Mark M · 01-06-2009, 02:36 PM

Wait.....how did a 335 beat a 135? I just don't see that happening. Or are these informal times with random drivers and random conditions over a lengthy span of time? If so....then those posted times don't hold much validity.

adrean8j · 01-06-2009, 02:39 PM

A. Where are these times from?
B. Same driver?

I am a bit skeptical about those times as the 130i beat it (?) as well as the Golf R32 (?!)..Hmm....any more info people?

Dave · 01-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M

Wait.....how did a 335 beat a 135? I just don't see that happening. Or are these informal times with random drivers and random conditions over a lengthy span of time? If so....then those posted times don't hold much validity.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vergl...-s_719816.html

thats where it is taken from... in german thou

and its also listed here:
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...10073&bottom=0

list is a lil out of date

adrean8j · 01-06-2009, 03:07 PM

I read the article. Basically it says the 135i is FASTER than the Porsche in all out speed but that the Porsche can take the curves at a faster speed than the Bimmer. Does not mention the run-flats or anything like that though. Good baseline maybe but for sure the 135i CAN run faster than that.....at least I would think it could...we need the Stig.....

Crowley · 01-06-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M

Wait.....how did a 335 beat a 135? I just don't see that happening. Or are these informal times with random drivers and random conditions over a lengthy span of time? If so....then those posted times don't hold much validity.

Agreed, I can't see there being that much difference between the 335 and 135 .. i would think the 135 would be a little faster on the track ..

Crowley

lib · 01-06-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M

Wait.....how did a 335 beat a 135? I just don't see that happening. Or are these informal times with random drivers and random conditions over a lengthy span of time? If so....then those posted times don't hold much validity.

^ Correct.

Edit:
There are also a few cases where not all of those times cover the same exact course. On page 2 of the thread those times came from they point out that the NSX time of 7:37 doesn't count the long straight at the beginning and the real lap time is over 8 minutes.

Dave · 01-06-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowley

Agreed, I can't see there being that much difference between the 335 and 135 .. i would think the 135 would be a little faster on the track ..

Crowley

i agree... i just found the times... i dont believe them or deny them

but at least there is something out there

Bahraini135 · 01-06-2009, 08:52 PM

how can the 130 be faster?

lib · 01-06-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahraini135

how can the 130 be faster?

Different cars. Different days (over several years). Different drivers (not all pros). Different weather conditions. With different start & finish points for at least one of the times (though most were probably the same length of track)

If the times were rerecorded on the exact same length of track in similar conditions by drivers of similar skill the entire list would reorder itself.

turbobum · 01-06-2009, 09:16 PM

Too much understeer = lousy lap time

Citizen Z · 01-06-2009, 09:16 PM

Well I can tell you that my time was over 10 minutes from the time I left the cones to when I began braking to pull back in. Yes, I suck at the Nurburgring Nordschleife.

lib · 01-07-2009, 12:18 AM

^ It's not that you suck. You were simply trying to get as much track time as possible :wink:

mbrunner · 01-07-2009, 01:15 AM

Quantity over quality

Why take 1 big juicy steak when you can get 53 white castles!

Why have an 8 minute time when you could enjoy 10+

adrean8j · 01-07-2009, 04:42 AM

The thing that I find interesting is usually (at least within the last half-decade) the manufacturers release a Nurburgring time, case in point: Camaro SS, Cobalt SS, ZR1, M3, M5, GT-R.....just that I could not find anything at all for the 135i...there was even a spy-shot of the 135 on the Ring back in July '07 I think...

Bahraini135 · 01-07-2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lib

Different cars. Different days (over several years). Different drivers (not all pros). Different weather conditions. With different start & finish points for at least one of the times (though most were probably the same length of track)

If the times were rerecorded on the exact same length of track in similar conditions by drivers of similar skill the entire list would reorder itself.

true.. but, my point was, the 135 run could be done on a wet day or not been driven properly. Coz I tracked my car and it was amazing. I was only 1 second slower from my modified 350z and many seconds faster than stock Zs (which shows to be faster on the list!!). I also drove on the nurburgring and know that power over there does make a diffirence, the ring got plenty of streches.

ORIGIN M. · 01-07-2009, 05:05 AM

It takes about 100 times around that track to even start to get to know it.

You never know who was driving that 1, so who cares!

adrean8j · 01-07-2009, 05:25 AM

^^^I care to some extent....that is the whole point of this thread:wink:. Open discussion on it and curiosity mostly....

atr_hugo · 01-07-2009, 06:51 AM

This month's Automobile magazine has a spread on the 'ring, FWIW.

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Dave formerly izzo/comeback 287 Rep 3,382 Posts Drives: 2016 RC 350 F Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 135i [6.80]	8:39... not so impressive but this car is not meant to be a track monster i still love it __________________ BMW CCA # 418268
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Mark M Major 240 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: E30M3 E83X3 E90335D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA iTrader: (0)	Wait.....how did a 335 beat a 135? I just don't see that happening. Or are these informal times with random drivers and random conditions over a lengthy span of time? If so....then those posted times don't hold much validity.
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Bahraini135 First Lieutenant 28 Rep 340 Posts Drives: 09 M-Packaged 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 11.85@116.4mph ... [10.00]	how can the 130 be faster? __________________ '73 240z Triple-Carbed '03 350z Supercharged '09 135i Twin-Turbocharged *11.85@116.4mph*
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Citizen Z Alpine Master 109 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (1)	Well I can tell you that my time was over 10 minutes from the time I left the cones to when I began braking to pull back in. Yes, I suck at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727
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ORIGIN M. Banned 3160 Rep 9,134 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Hemisphere iTrader: (0)	It takes about 100 times around that track to even start to get to know it. You never know who was driving that 1, so who cares!
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	This month's Automobile magazine has a spread on the 'ring, FWIW.
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