M235i

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Might be, but the new 2015 Honda Accord Coupe with the V6 engine (more comparable dont you think?) is 3400-3536 lbs depending on how it's speccd. WTF. That's a FWD car with no prop shaft.

The Accord coupe does have a three inch longer wheelbase when compared to the M235i.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

The Accord coupe does have a three inch longer wheelbase when compared to the M235i.

it's also 16 inches LONGER and is a family sedan that can comfortably seat 5. lol. what is BMW's excuse for obesity??

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

The Accord coupe does have a three inch longer wheelbase when compared to the M235i.

3 inches longer to push the engine forward over in front of the front wheels. So sporty.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

3 inches longer to push the engine forward over in front of the front wheels. So sporty.

Three inches longer in wheelbase alone and practically the same weight as the fat little M235i.

[zx10guy]

I really want to see a M235i in person but I don't think it's going to change my opinion of it based on what I saw on the 228i in person.

I don't know why so many think the front end of the M235i is much better than the 135i. To me it gets lost in the whole generic look BMW has gone after in the recent model. No model differentiation.

Also, the front end looks like a catfish to me ala the last iteration of the 4th Gen Camaro:

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

i can see the kids are getting REAL EXCITED about this new line of sports coupes!

here's the deluxe 235 Type R.

Attachment 1088600

I gotta post this on the 2er forum. lol.. may I doc?

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Chunner

I gotta post this on the 2er forum. lol.. may I doc?

LOL...i suppose!

they are going to kill me.

[Chunner]

lol....

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033687

lol....

sure is fun!

lol....

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Chunner

lol....

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033687

lol....

sure is fun!

lol....

LOL. the saddest thing is it's sooooo easy to get a Honda grille on the 2er and it actually looks believable......because the 2er looks like a Honda! Cope tried to put it on the 1er in that thread and it just doesn't work...because the 1er looks like a BMW.

[funseries]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

i can see the kids are getting REAL EXCITED about this new line of sports coupes!

here's the deluxe 235 Type R.

Attachment 1088600

I actually like it better with the Honda grill..

Scratch that, still fugly.

[Tuxedo]

I feel the e88 looks and is a modern e30. Front end a bit weak in style, I like it well enough

2r's looks dont remind me of an old beemer, they look a little like a old 97' Grand Prix and a refreshed e93. The Japanese feels seem to be first impressions but have faded once in the driver gets acclimated.

BMW's-Japanese looks do have an insult to my sense of style. I dont buy a Honda/Acura based on looks, I buy an Acura based on a strong QDI that BMW fails considerably at.

When renting a car on travel and get a Japanese car it never fails when dropping it off I say to myself with a chuckle well thats not German Engineered! BMW proves time and again a great car in long term, 2's no doubt will continue this tradition even with some subtle outside influence.

My main reason for not having full desire for a 2series is the non-Turbo availability. I may evolve on this one but I6 normal aspirated for me thank you.

[IEDEI]

an ex-1er owner (now an M235i owner) has thrown DOWN the gauntlet! I look forward to reading the replies to this one!!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033844

[NYHoustonman]

FWIW, the M235i is set up from the factory (in terms of tires and suspension) far better than the 135i ever was. And to my eyes, the front is better-looking than that on the non-M 1'er, although the rear is rather bland.

If you see one on the road, there's no mistaking it for a Honda.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

an ex-1er owner (now an M235i owner) has thrown DOWN the gauntlet! I look forward to reading the replies to this one!!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033844

Interesting Syed, especially coming from an ex 135i owner, who is a current M235i owner, since we all tend to be biased to what we currently have. Wonder what he'd think of the N55 flavored 135i, with PPK, as opposed to a stock N54 135i. Would be an even more apples to apples comparison, engine-wise, to a stock M235i.

[swagon]

So it's war now between 1Addicts and 2Addicts? How mature. LOL.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by swagon

So it's war now between 1Addicts and 2Addicts? How mature. LOL.

What do you mean NOW?

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

an ex-1er owner (now an M235i owner) has thrown DOWN the gauntlet! I look forward to reading the replies to this one!!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033844

woo hooo. that was juicy...

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

LOL. the saddest thing is it's sooooo easy to get a Honda grille on the 2er and it actually looks believable......because the 2er looks like a Honda! Cope tried to put it on the 1er in that thread and it just doesn't work...because the 1er looks like a BMW.

That really didn't work. Chopped the headlights in half. Front end of the 1er looks like a chipmunk, like the rest of BMW cars. 2er front is too corporate. We all know that corporate front ends sell well in todays market though.

Originally Posted by IEDEI

an ex-1er owner (now an M235i owner) has thrown DOWN the gauntlet! I look forward to reading the replies to this one!!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033844

That was a good read, and honestly nothing any of us would not suspect.
The person who pulled up the numbers in an attempt to show the M235i is faster failed to account for how the cars are set up with tires. The OP of that thread said the cars were both run on the same tires, and that both were stock otherwise. I'm assuming that means both cars were running Michelin PSS (isn't that what comes stock on the M235i, rather than the crappy no-grip RFTs that the 135i got?). Tires make a huge difference. I would also factor a small amount to the proper tuning on the factory suspension on the M235i. It is set up properly from the factory, a fact that just illustrates how badly BMW fucked up on the suspension and tires selections for the 1er.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by swagon

So it's war now between 1Addicts and 2Addicts? How mature. LOL.

check out this thread. just adding fuel to the fire. of course, all in good humor.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033687

[CAVU]

Can't we all just get along? All of this intra-Addicts strife is taking a terrible toll on Greg...

[Worra]

Another one of these threads?


I'll bite. I love the side profile of the M235 but it stops about there. Oh, and that they loaded it with PSS from the factory and sell an optional LSD.

[gregthegr8]

Originally Posted by RickMsport

Can't we all just get along? All of this intra-Addicts strife is taking a terrible toll on Greg...

Huh? How'd I get dragged into this?!

Besides, I'm much more handsomer. And better hair.