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      11-08-2016, 11:38 AM   #1
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Custom Offset Lower Control Arm Bushings for STX/STU/Street/Track E82/E90 (Camber!)

So, the custom offset lower bushings are done in prototype form.





These replace the lower front control arm bushing, and are legal to use in STX. They should allow for .5-.6 more degrees of camber than the stock lower control arms.

Obviously, they'll also fit E90/E92 Non-M cars as well. If anyone is interested, I can have another couple sets made up. I know that two sets are spoken for in addition to my one, and would probably not be a big deal to add any others. Because everything is custom made and machined, (including the metal sleeve), they'd go for around $150 / set (both sides). You've probably got a month or two to speak up on them, so do so . No money will be made on them, just trying to help folks out where there is not a reasonable alternative.

The SuperPro bushings that do something similar are very failure prone, as in my video here:
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      11-14-2016, 04:12 PM   #2
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Good alternative to the M3 arms. Nice!
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      11-14-2016, 04:28 PM   #3
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Installing Friday for the first time on my car. I'll do a before and after camber measurement compared to the M3 arms on the car as well. They *should* offer a little more, but we'll see.
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      11-14-2016, 07:02 PM   #4
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Installing Friday for the first time on my car. I'll do a before and after camber measurement compared to the M3 arms on the car as well. They *should* offer a little more, but we'll see.
How does that bushing provide adequate articulation? That arm moves forward and backward as well as rotating around the bolt. A delrin bushing only allows for rotation around the bolt.
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      11-16-2016, 08:04 AM   #5
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In practice it doesn't really articulate very much, if at all in the fore/aft direction with the limited travel of stiffer springs. That said, order of business #1 when installed is to toss these on a corner of the car, with no spring installed, and check for bind while moving the suspension through its travel. If it binds anywhere, well, I've got a couple useless chunks of delrin. Whiteline's bushings are very similar (but not offset), as well as the non-adjustable SuperPros.

Out of curiosity, how would you suggest getting additional camber out of the car? My options are bushing replacement in the stock lower arm, and and do whatever I would like with the upper camber plate. If these don't provide enough (I would like adjustment up to 4 degrees at a reasonable ride height), I'll end up modifying that. It would probably involve increasing stack height a bit by spacing the plate lower, then tucking the nut under the shock tower. Perhaps Vorshlag could design me some plates that made that a reasonable option, the JRZ plates only allow for around 2.8 at a reasonable ride height without dorking with the lower arm.

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      11-17-2016, 12:23 PM   #6
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The double lower ball joint design of our cars results in fore/aft movement of that arm when you steer the wheel, not under bump travel. I suggest checking that out.

I have no real suggestions for more camber beyond the M3 arm and camber plates.
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      11-17-2016, 01:36 PM   #7
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The double lower ball joint design of our cars results in fore/aft movement of that arm when you steer the wheel, not under bump travel. I suggest checking that out.

I have no real suggestions for more camber beyond the M3 arm and camber plates.
Cool. Thanks, will do.
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      03-30-2019, 01:43 AM   #8
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Are the SuperPro bushings really a no go?? Or did OP just receive a defective part?

I'm interested in these
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-superpro...pf394195k~spr/
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      03-30-2019, 06:17 AM   #9
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There would only be excessive movement of the LCA if the caster bushes were worn/torn. There will always be movement but wear through normal use will cause a domino effect to the LCA.
M3 UCA or bushes are much firmer
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      03-30-2019, 11:18 AM   #10
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There would only be excessive movement of the LCA if the caster bushes were worn/torn. There will always be movement but wear through normal use will cause a domino effect to the LCA.
M3 UCA or bushes are much firmer
Are these KMAC any better/different? Much more expensive though.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-kmac-par.../1939164h~kma/

"2x the load of stock bushings"

Also, do you lose fender clearance at all with these bushings, in the same way longer M3 arms would?

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