Riss Racing Oil Catch Can Released!!! $65

Riss Racing · 04-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Hello everybody we have released our Oil Catch Can. It is in stock, and available now! Please visit www.rissracing.com for more information. Price is $65 + shipping.

E82tt6 · 04-15-2008, 04:08 PM

I like using one for even occasionally track driven cars, it makes a big difference in intercooler efficiency over time. Even a thin oil layer can really ruin heat transfer.

That's a good looking piece. When you get your O2 sims ready, I'll order all the little bits together.

atr_hugo · 04-15-2008, 04:23 PM

IIRC, you're talking about the output from the PCV valve ending up in the catch can, rather than in the intake.

ichiban · 04-15-2008, 04:34 PM

very nice, looks like a quality built product.

Helios · 04-15-2008, 04:36 PM

that is one bad ass RR coffee mug!

ichiban · 04-15-2008, 04:43 PM

also, can you take pictures of this thing installed?

Riss Racing · 04-15-2008, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Riss Racing

I have been getting quite a few PMs on what an oil catc can is for. Hopefully we can help educate the community on the reason for an oil catch can anybody that would like to chime in feedback is appreciated!

Oil Catch Can takes the oil and moisture in the blow-by gas that causes carbon and sludge build-up in the intake system, intercooler piping, and the engine.
To elaborate, theres no such thing as a perfectly sealed cylinder, during combustion gas will always slip past the rings into the crankcase. (the bottom of the engine) if this pressure just built up obviously the engine effeciency would be reduced and bad things would happen as seals started getting pushed against.

To relieve this pressure a PCV is put in which stands for positive crankcase ventilation. On NA cars, that have constant vacuum in their manifold, the valvehead (the top of the engine, which is connected through passageways to the crankcase, the bottom) is connected to the manifold, the vacuum draws out the blow by which is then combusted in the cylinders.

But keep in mind the crankcase is very hot, lots of evaporated oil in there, this is also drawn out with the blow by. In NA cars it's not good (why burn oil when you don't have to) but it's not horribly bad either. In a turbo car though where vacuum is not always present in the manifold it is a regular practice to route the PCV to the intake pre turbo where vacuum is present (or at least not pressure).

Problem with this is all that oil vapor is now running past the turbo, and then into the intercooler where it condenses, and coats it, reducing its efficiency. It also coats the rest of the charge pipe and pools. Not to mention that having oil go in with the intake air during WOT is not exactly a power adder.

A catch can is a generic method for removing the oil from the PCV by giving it a different place to condense and be stored besides your intake track.

Quote:
Originally Posted by veightkiller

i'd like to see some pic's aswell to see where this thing sits on the engine bay.

It can sit wherever you want provided you have enough tubing to reach the location.

The location of the PCV is in this post, it's the black tube from the engine cover going into the turbo intake pancake. There's also a lot more info in that thread.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...70&postcount=8

Riss Racing · 04-15-2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichiban

very nice, looks like a quality built product.

Thank you!

Riss Racing · 04-16-2008, 11:10 AM

Lots of great information coming from the 335 guys on the catch can if you would like to read http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=134467&page=3

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-17-2008, 08:41 PM

20 sets have been dropped off at our coaters to get ceramic coated black. Knight Rider edition!

eunosracr · 04-17-2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam@Riss Racing

20 sets have been dropped off at our coaters to get ceramic coated black. Knight Rider edition!

Im down for the Knight Rider. We need install pics please!!!!

Riss Racing · 04-18-2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eunosracr

Im down for the Knight Rider. We need install pics please!!!!

Full DIY with install pics for the 135 will be up ASAP. The 335 will be up today. Thanks!

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-20-2008, 10:00 PM

Hi Guys,

We should get the ceramic coated sets back this week. We'll have them available ASAP On the site. Also, a DIY has been completed so i'll update this site with the PDF. Thanks guys!

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-22-2008, 11:18 PM

All orders shipped. Thanks guys!

Italteen3 · 04-22-2008, 11:29 PM

Awesome guys! Can't wait to see the Knight Rider edition. Keep up the great work.

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-23-2008, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Italteen3

Awesome guys! Can't wait to see the Knight Rider edition. Keep up the great work.

Should get them back this week! Should sell out pretty quick.

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-24-2008, 12:09 AM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134467

DIY is on post #99. Again, this is a DIY from someone with an intake. Without an intake, you can place this closer to the top of the engine bay. As soon as Anthony gets back on he'll post the DIY in this thread. Thanks guys!

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-25-2008, 06:56 PM

Orders shipped. Thank you!

Riss Racing · 04-27-2008, 11:52 AM

Weekend orders will ship first thing Monday morning thanks!

Adam@Riss Racing · 04-29-2008, 05:14 PM

Our anodized black catch cans will be available in a week or 2. All polished cans have been shipped out today.

Riss Racing · 05-01-2008, 04:04 PM

See you at Bimmerfest!

Adam@Riss Racing · 05-06-2008, 02:54 PM

Our N54 kit w/ DIY should be available shortly. We're just purchasing the materials so we can get them done.

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Riss Racing Banned 276 Rep 2,650 Posts Drives: E60 M5/E92 335/HUMMER H2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (7)	Riss Racing Oil Catch Can Released!!! $65 Hello everybody we have released our Oil Catch Can. It is in stock, and available now! Please visit www.rissracing.com for more information. Price is $65 + shipping.
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E82tt6 Colonel 103 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I like using one for even occasionally track driven cars, it makes a big difference in intercooler efficiency over time. Even a thin oil layer can really ruin heat transfer. That's a good looking piece. When you get your O2 sims ready, I'll order all the little bits together. __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	IIRC, you're talking about the output from the PCV valve ending up in the catch can, rather than in the intake.
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Riss Racing Banned 276 Rep 2,650 Posts Drives: E60 M5/E92 335/HUMMER H2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (7)	Originally Posted by Riss Racing I have been getting quite a few PMs on what an oil catc can is for. Hopefully we can help educate the community on the reason for an oil catch can anybody that would like to chime in feedback is appreciated! Oil Catch Can takes the oil and moisture in the blow-by gas that causes carbon and sludge build-up in the intake system, intercooler piping, and the engine. To elaborate, theres no such thing as a perfectly sealed cylinder, during combustion gas will always slip past the rings into the crankcase. (the bottom of the engine) if this pressure just built up obviously the engine effeciency would be reduced and bad things would happen as seals started getting pushed against. To relieve this pressure a PCV is put in which stands for positive crankcase ventilation. On NA cars, that have constant vacuum in their manifold, the valvehead (the top of the engine, which is connected through passageways to the crankcase, the bottom) is connected to the manifold, the vacuum draws out the blow by which is then combusted in the cylinders. But keep in mind the crankcase is very hot, lots of evaporated oil in there, this is also drawn out with the blow by. In NA cars it's not good (why burn oil when you don't have to) but it's not horribly bad either. In a turbo car though where vacuum is not always present in the manifold it is a regular practice to route the PCV to the intake pre turbo where vacuum is present (or at least not pressure). Problem with this is all that oil vapor is now running past the turbo, and then into the intercooler where it condenses, and coats it, reducing its efficiency. It also coats the rest of the charge pipe and pools. Not to mention that having oil go in with the intake air during WOT is not exactly a power adder. A catch can is a generic method for removing the oil from the PCV by giving it a different place to condense and be stored besides your intake track. Quote: Originally Posted by veightkiller i'd like to see some pic's aswell to see where this thing sits on the engine bay. It can sit wherever you want provided you have enough tubing to reach the location. The location of the PCV is in this post, it's the black tube from the engine cover going into the turbo intake pancake. There's also a lot more info in that thread. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...70&postcount=8
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Riss Racing Banned 276 Rep 2,650 Posts Drives: E60 M5/E92 335/HUMMER H2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (7)	Lots of great information coming from the 335 guys on the catch can if you would like to read http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=134467&page=3
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