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      01-14-2016, 01:23 AM   #45
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Do you have a thing for hips sir????

2 beautiful cars. Go with your heart and not re sale.
I do love a girl with baby making hips! Not to get all "artsy", but imo, the 930 evokes the shape of a woman like no other car on the planet. The M does the same, but on a smaller scale. Also the fact that the 930 was one of the first turbocharged cars, and the first mass production turbo car in history means a lot to me. On the other hand, ppl who say turbo cars have no throttle response have never driven a 1M! God, I love both of them. Anyone on here win that powerball that could lend me 100k?
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      01-14-2016, 05:51 AM   #46
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Do you have a thing for hips sir????

2 beautiful cars. Go with your heart and not re sale.
I do love a girl with baby making hips! Not to get all "artsy", but imo, the 930 evokes the shape of a woman like no other car on the planet. The M does the same, but on a smaller scale. Also the fact that the 930 was one of the first turbocharged cars, and the first mass production turbo car in history means a lot to me. On the other hand, ppl who say turbo cars have no throttle response have never driven a 1M! God, I love both of them. Anyone on here win that powerball that could lend me 100k?
the 930 was not the first mass produced turbo car....the Corvair Monza was and some Oldsmobile in the 60s....then the 2002 Turbo and then the 930.

For all intensive purposes the 2002 Turbo is generally considered to be the first European turbo'd production car...

I'd say the Saab Turbo that came out in 76 is really the car that put turbos out into the mainstream though...
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      01-14-2016, 11:04 AM   #47
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First successful mass production turbo car. 1975.
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      01-14-2016, 11:08 AM   #48
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If people keep crashing and totaling them I imagine the value will go up, eh?
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We are halfway to the 10-year mark and these are still going for what they sold for on release.

The values will be just fine because you won't lose money on it if you didn't pay a premium. The M2 is essentially here and it hasn't changed the prices. Rarity and fun are always desirable.
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First successful mass production turbo car. 1975.
BMW 2002 Turbo - 1974.

sorry!!

the 2002 Turbo is widely acknowledged as the first serious turbo production car.

the production numbers for the 2002 Turbo were close to 1700 from 1973-1974.

The 930 production numbers were over 2800 for 1975-1977.
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      01-15-2016, 12:02 PM   #51
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BMW 2002 Turbo - 1974.

sorry!!

the 2002 Turbo is widely acknowledged as the first serious turbo production car.

the production numbers for the 2002 Turbo were close to 1700 from 1973-1974.

The 930 production numbers were over 2800 for 1975-1977.
Ya got me on that. What I meant was, first turbo production car that performed! The term supercar comes to mind too.
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Ya got me on that. What I meant was, first turbo production car that performed! The term supercar comes to mind too.
the 2002 Turbo is a FANTASTIC car....the philosophical basis for the 1M. It should definitely be respected as such!

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the 2002 Turbo is a FANTASTIC car....the philosophical basis for the 1M. It should definitely be respected as such!

I can't claim to have ever driven a turbo 2002. I am sure it is good, most cars with a cult following, have a cult following for a reason. But I am sorry, it will never have the presence of a 930. The 2002t it an iconic BMW no doubt. The 930 in itself is an icon. There is a difference. That being said, I love debating cars! I am a self proclaimed Porsche guy, but love and respect all of them. Weather I'd personally throw $ down and own one or not. I'll just go ahead and say it..... I'm a car whore!
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I will rather have a 2002 Turbo over a 930. I had a Cayman r before my 1M. Enough said.
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I will rather have a 2002 Turbo over a 930. I had a Cayman r before my 1M. Enough said.
I was so close to buying a Cayman R instead of the 1M. After driving each, the decision was clear. The 1M was far more practical, fun to drive, and just unique.
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Then we have the fun discussion on what is the true value of these collector cars when you subtract the US fiscal stimulation since 09-10. If you look at the spike in value on most of the Porsches and other collector cars since 10 and on, seemingly as a storage of wealth to the massive wealth gains in the market...in 10 years it could very well all revert back to the mean as things unwind.
It's all speculation and I think you very well could see the porsche slide back to it's pre 2012 prices over the next 10 years.
So, drive what you love to drive...not on which will hold value more. The future is just too uncertain and in the end they are mostly are depreciating assets.
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      01-17-2016, 02:34 PM   #57
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Then we have the fun discussion on what is the true value of these collector cars when you subtract the US fiscal stimulation since 09-10. If you look at the spike in value on most of the Porsches and other collector cars since 10 and on, seemingly as a storage of wealth to the massive wealth gains in the market...in 10 years it could very well all revert back to the mean as things unwind.
It's all speculation and I think you very well could see the porsche slide back to it's pre 2012 prices over the next 10 years.
So, drive what you love to drive...not on which will hold value more. The future is just too uncertain and in the end they are mostly are depreciating assets.
+1

I'm sure there is the apocryphal Ferrari or Mclaren car out there that could perhaps be considered as an investment, but 99% or more of the collectible cars will still cost their owners more to own, not to mention the time value of money, outweighing any likely financial return one could see from them over most any practical period of ownership.
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Then we have the fun discussion on what is the true value of these collector cars when you subtract the US fiscal stimulation since 09-10. If you look at the spike in value on most of the Porsches and other collector cars since 10 and on, seemingly as a storage of wealth to the massive wealth gains in the market...in 10 years it could very well all revert back to the mean as things unwind.
It's all speculation and I think you very well could see the porsche slide back to it's pre 2012 prices over the next 10 years.
So, drive what you love to drive...not on which will hold value more. The future is just too uncertain and in the end they are mostly are depreciating assets.
+1

I'm sure there is the apocryphal Ferrari or Mclaren car out there that could perhaps be considered as an investment, but 99% or more of the collectible cars will still cost their owners more to own, not to mention the time value of money, outweighing any likely financial return one could see from them over most any practical period of ownership.
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