new wheels and non run flat tyres

jcw2006aus · 06-22-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris

jcw, I think the offset isn't ideal. I'm in contact with a german maker and am trying to find out if they'll make a 45mm offset - the 38 would mean they would stick out too much I think..

Let me know how you go.....I measured them up also and they do stick out way to far.....

Thanks

WAY · 06-22-2008, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DTNJNQ

Way, 9" are available for the rears.

Yes, but according to the guys at Tirerack, 9 inch rear with 40 offset sticks out and will rub. This is why I am so keen to see Blacky's set up when he puts them on!

DTNJNQ · 06-22-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

Yes, but according to the guys at Tirerack, 9 inch rear with 40 offset sticks out and will rub. This is why I am so keen to see Blacky's set up when he puts them on!

Way, have a look at the Oz Australia Website. They say they suit the 1 series E87. I assume this would be similar to E82 coupe.

The site is at:
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/whee...ose-a-wheel/en

This is the result for ultraleggera

spdrcr · 06-22-2008, 05:04 AM

I ordered a set of black Ultraleggera in 18x8.0 last on Friday from tirerack. Should have them in the next week or so...

Kris · 06-22-2008, 04:56 PM

Jeff, in 40 offset? Interesting...

jcw: the maker claims they stick out 7mm more, which is rubbish. Just the fronts are out 17mm more, would look a bit too silly. My hunt for gunmetal E92 M3 wheels contuines , these ebay ones with the 34/37 offset won't work nicely.

DTNJNQ · 06-22-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

Jeff, in 40 offset? Interesting...

jcw: the maker claims they stick out 7mm more, which is rubbish. Just the fronts are out 17mm more, would look a bit too silly. My hunt for gunmetal E92 M3 wheels contuines , these ebay ones with the 34/37 offset won't work nicely.

It depends on the tyres you use not just the wheels. So if you use the same tyre as the stock tyres the results are as follows:

Front 8" with 40 offset - The edge of the new tyre will be 9mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 9mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

Rear 8" or 9" with 40 offset - The edge of the new tyre will be 12mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 12mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

If the tyres are upgraded one size, 225 Fronts and 255 rears the result would be

Front 8" with 40 offset - The edge of the new tyre will be 4mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 14mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

Rear 8" or 9" with 40 offset - The edge of the new tyre will be 7mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 17mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

Use the calculator on the following page
http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

Can anyone that has their car measure the tyre clearance from the inside and outside for the current stock tyres.

Kris · 06-22-2008, 06:40 PM

Yeah, I used a calc for my results. The offsets are 34/37, so 40 would be ok and 45 would be ideal. These 34/37 is just too wide for the 1er using those E92 M3 replica wheels..

DTNJNQ · 06-22-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

Yeah, I used a calc for my results. The offsets are 34/37, so 40 would be ok and 45 would be ideal. These 34/37 is just too wide for the 1er using those E92 M3 replica wheels..

Kris, those offset will give the following results with the standard tyres.

Front - The edge of the new tyre will be 15mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 15mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

Rear - The edge of the new tyre will be 15mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 15mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

15mm shouldn't be too bad however, I'm not sure how close the existing setup is to the bodywork.

Kris · 06-22-2008, 06:55 PM

Ill check my car at lunch... problem is, you wont get standard tyres on 18x8 and 18x8.5 so that 15 is alot more

aedeau · 06-22-2008, 07:09 PM

excuse my ignorance, but if i just want to put wider tyres on with stock 18" wheels (208M), do i need to worry about offsets?

Kris · 06-22-2008, 07:13 PM

You can put 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 on without a drama

DTNJNQ · 06-22-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

Ill check my car at lunch... problem is, you wont get standard tyres on 18x8 and 18x8.5 so that 15 is alot more

Kris on the following page there is an ideal rim width calculator

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

This indicates that the standard tyres will fit on the following size rims

front 215 - 7" to 8.5"
Rear 245 - 8" to 9.5"

Kris · 06-22-2008, 07:32 PM

woah! id imagine 245 would be a streeeeeeeeeeetch on 9.5! fair enough

DTNJNQ · 06-23-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris

Ill check my car at lunch... problem is, you wont get standard tyres on 18x8 and 18x8.5 so that 15 is alot more

Kris

Were you able to check the clearances of the standard wheel/tyre setup?

Kris · 06-23-2008, 05:31 AM

w00ps! I forgot

spdrcr · 06-23-2008, 05:42 AM

seriously guys, what is the point going for a wider rim if you can't put wider rubber on there.. I'm putting 235 all round.

Kris · 06-23-2008, 06:05 AM

You can Jeff. Its just a case of getting the RIGHT offset. The car will take 18x9.5s in the rear no dramas at all.

DTNJNQ · 06-24-2008, 04:10 PM

What do you guys think of these wheels. I think they may fit.

18 x 8.5” 40mm Front
18 x 9.5” 45mm Rear

With the following tyres:

Rear - 255/35/18 - The edge of the new tyre will be 2mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 12mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

Front- 225/40/18 - The edge of the new tyre will be 4mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 14mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.

The supplier was even willing to machine the hub to increase the offsets.

Blacky · 06-24-2008, 04:51 PM

Super Cool
I nearly brought a set of those, but I ended up with O.Z.

DTNJNQ · 06-24-2008, 06:09 PM

I'm a bit confused regarding the OZ Ultraleggera, are they available in Australia for BMW's or not.

Rang YHI yesterday the Australian Distributor of Oz Wheels. They advised that the Oz Ultraleggera are not available for BMW's as 5x120 stud fitment is not available in Australia.
I told them that th OZaustralia web site www.ozaustralia.com.au indiates that they are available. The person from YHI told me that they are the Australian disbributor and they were not available. I asked him to have a look at the ozaustralia web site. He was a bit suprised as it wasn't their website and therefore someone else must be importing oz wheels

I rang ozaustralia and they quoted a price of $1,034 per wheel. At this price I would import them myself just like Blacky did.

At this stage I'm still deciding between the Black CSL's in the above post or the Ultraleggera's. Just not yet sure about the look of the ultraleggera. I saw them the other day on a Golf and I wasn't too impressed. See attached pictures. I would like to actually see them on a black 135i.

Kris · 06-24-2008, 06:33 PM

The wheels look ok, have to see em on a 135 to really know.. dish effect at the rear is nice, that slighty concave look is nice.

Blacky · 06-24-2008, 06:49 PM

Don't F*&K around with the local guys, just import from Tire Rack.
Simple your order / pay and they get delivered within a week.
If you want to be even more of a tight ass like me you could import the tires as well!
Sorry for the delays but if I can get enthused I will fit the wheels some time this week and post some photos.

06-22-2008, 05:04 AM	#26
spdrcr First Lieutenant 13 Rep 356 Posts Drives: Lotus Elise Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I ordered a set of black Ultraleggera in 18x8.0 last on Friday from tirerack. Should have them in the next week or so...
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06-22-2008, 04:56 PM	#27
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	Jeff, in 40 offset? Interesting... jcw: the maker claims they stick out 7mm more, which is rubbish. Just the fronts are out 17mm more, would look a bit too silly. My hunt for gunmetal E92 M3 wheels contuines , these ebay ones with the 34/37 offset won't work nicely.
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06-22-2008, 06:40 PM	#29
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	Yeah, I used a calc for my results. The offsets are 34/37, so 40 would be ok and 45 would be ideal. These 34/37 is just too wide for the 1er using those E92 M3 replica wheels..
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06-22-2008, 06:55 PM	#31
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	Ill check my car at lunch... problem is, you wont get standard tyres on 18x8 and 18x8.5 so that 15 is alot more
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06-22-2008, 07:09 PM	#32
aedeau Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 244 Posts Drives: VE Clubsport R8 LS3 6.2Ltr Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	excuse my ignorance, but if i just want to put wider tyres on with stock 18" wheels (208M), do i need to worry about offsets?
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06-22-2008, 07:13 PM	#33
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	You can put 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 on without a drama
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06-22-2008, 07:32 PM	#35
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	woah! id imagine 245 would be a streeeeeeeeeeetch on 9.5! fair enough
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06-23-2008, 05:31 AM	#37
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	w00ps! I forgot
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06-23-2008, 05:42 AM	#38
spdrcr First Lieutenant 13 Rep 356 Posts Drives: Lotus Elise Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	seriously guys, what is the point going for a wider rim if you can't put wider rubber on there.. I'm putting 235 all round.
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06-23-2008, 06:05 AM	#39
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	You can Jeff. Its just a case of getting the RIGHT offset. The car will take 18x9.5s in the rear no dramas at all.
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06-24-2008, 04:10 PM	#40
DTNJNQ Captain 110 Rep 994 Posts Drives: M2, 135i, Xclass Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [8.66]	What do you guys think of these wheels. I think they may fit. 18 x 8.5” 40mm Front 18 x 9.5” 45mm Rear With the following tyres: Rear - 255/35/18 - The edge of the new tyre will be 2mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 12mm further out from the edge of the bodywork. Front- 225/40/18 - The edge of the new tyre will be 4mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 14mm further out from the edge of the bodywork. The supplier was even willing to machine the hub to increase the offsets. Attached Images
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06-24-2008, 04:51 PM	#41
Blacky Lieutenant 14 Rep 472 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2006 iTrader: (0)	Super Cool I nearly brought a set of those, but I ended up with O.Z.
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06-24-2008, 06:09 PM	#42
DTNJNQ Captain 110 Rep 994 Posts Drives: M2, 135i, Xclass Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [8.66]	I'm a bit confused regarding the OZ Ultraleggera, are they available in Australia for BMW's or not. Rang YHI yesterday the Australian Distributor of Oz Wheels. They advised that the Oz Ultraleggera are not available for BMW's as 5x120 stud fitment is not available in Australia. I told them that th OZaustralia web site www.ozaustralia.com.au indiates that they are available. The person from YHI told me that they are the Australian disbributor and they were not available. I asked him to have a look at the ozaustralia web site. He was a bit suprised as it wasn't their website and therefore someone else must be importing oz wheels I rang ozaustralia and they quoted a price of $1,034 per wheel. At this price I would import them myself just like Blacky did. At this stage I'm still deciding between the Black CSL's in the above post or the Ultraleggera's. Just not yet sure about the look of the ultraleggera. I saw them the other day on a Golf and I wasn't too impressed. See attached pictures. I would like to actually see them on a black 135i. Attached Images
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06-24-2008, 06:33 PM	#43
Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	The wheels look ok, have to see em on a 135 to really know.. dish effect at the rear is nice, that slighty concave look is nice.
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06-24-2008, 06:49 PM	#44
Blacky Lieutenant 14 Rep 472 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2006 iTrader: (0)	Don't F*&K around with the local guys, just import from Tire Rack. Simple your order / pay and they get delivered within a week. If you want to be even more of a tight ass like me you could import the tires as well! Sorry for the delays but if I can get enthused I will fit the wheels some time this week and post some photos.
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