[ADHD]

Got a ILLEGAL front window ticket yesterday for my 10% limo tint all around!

[lumbergh]

Originally Posted by pawarrant

I would like to, but tinting is illegal in Pennsylvania.

I didn't realize tinting was illegal in other states. That is crazy! My car would just about catch on fire in this TX heat without some tint. I wish I could go darker but there are retrictions, I think it's up to 30%, on the front but you can spray paint the rest if you really wanted to.

Anyone know if you can remove and retint windows? The dealer did a crappy job and I want a little darker on the back anyway.


Edit: oh yeah, sorry about the ticket ADHD. Did they use some kind of light reader?

[matt0528]

i prefer em tinted... havent done so yet

[govtec]

Originally Posted by pawarrant

I would like to, but tinting is illegal in Pennsylvania.

who told u that? it's legal as long as 70% of light goes through window

[govtec]

Originally Posted by Oz

I would like to tint my car but I want to avoid unnecessary tickets and worry about finding the right place here at NJ.

that's the perception. most law enforecement authorities will not issue u a ticket as long as ur tint isn't very dark at like 40% or lighter and u obey all traffic laws while driving. i live near a police station and local police are every where as they pull in and out of the station. i pass by phila pd practically everyday on my way home from work and they don't have any second thoughts about pulling me over. limit urself to getting a ticket by having lighter tints, absolutely no front tints and obey all traffic laws. law enforcement these days have other priorities than pulling people over with tints on their windows. however, if they feel threatened by dark tints and ignorant drivers, i hope they do issue tickets to violators.

Originally Posted by Gearcraft

anyone knows a good shop? i live in westminster and work in tustin. any place around that area. and how much? thanks.

Gearcraft,

I highly recommend:

> Sundial Mobile Tinting <

His name is Rich Schrader.

Office: 714-841-7170
Mobile: 714-812-8451

Click the link and read up on his work.

On a scale of one to ten, his work is a 10.

He'll come to you and you will not be disappointed.

I've used him on my last four vehicles and I've always been blown away by his work.

And no, I'm not related to him in any way and his is not a personal friend of mine.

If you choose to go with him, please let me know what you think.

Dave

Costa Mesa, CA

Edit: And you'll be able to roll your windows up and down all you want.

Originally Posted by Gearcraft

i want my car tinted but when i got my car the dealer told me that if i'll tint my car i'd have to keep my windows closed so the film will not get into the moving parts inside the door.

This is complete Bullsh*t.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by CMD

This is complete Bullsh*t.

please don't lie to people, you wouldn't want them to ruin their tint.

Originally Posted by Nikki

please don't lie to people, you wouldn't want them to ruin their tint.

Niki,

Read this quote on the proper way to apply tinting taken from Sundial's website:

Door Panel Removal:

As a rule, we remove door panels, this is the best way to get the film to within 1/16" of the top edge and below the bottom seal. Some companies will say that's not necessary, that they have ways around it. But, you can't argue the fact that a window that doesn't have that bottom seal in the way is easier to tint than one that does. If you agree with that, then you have to agree that a window that is easier to tint is more likely to turn out better than one that isn't as easy to tint. If you are able to get the film on quicker and easier there is much less chance of contamination and creases. Contamination such as dust, lint, hair, etc. gets in the film during the installation process. It is virtually impossible to prevent contamination. It is more a how much you can reduce it.

Rear Windows:

For curved rear windows, we use the latest on piece techniques including heat shrinking, which allows us to tint windows in one piece which previously required two or more pieces. When seams are necessary, we accurately line up the seams to the defroster, giving the illusion of one piece.

Workmanship:

Remember, a good tint job is both quality film and quality workmanship. At Sundial Window Tinting our methods of application are at the top of the industry. Getting a top quality film is a waste, if its not put on by an expert in the field. By all means, make sure you are getting a good quality film, which comes with a lifetime warranty from the manufacturer, not just the tint shop.

All due respect Niki, I don't lie.

[Nikki]

So you mean to say that every tint shop that has tinted my car or someone I know's car was lying to us when they said we can't roll down the windows?

[AComp]

Originally Posted by 335I talian Stallion NJ

How dark is 35%? Thanks!:rocks:

Here's a couple of crappy pics I took, but you get a good look at the tint.

[pawarrant]

Originally Posted by govtec

who told u that? it's legal as long as 70% of light goes through window

Check out Title 75 of Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes Section 4524-e. Without a medical exemption or other exempted vehicle, the statute is pretty clear that aftermarket tint is illegal. Some officers will also cite under section 4107-b-2 for violating Department (PennDOT) rules and regulations. You are correct that most officers will let light tint go, and will cite based on "the spirit of the law" rather than the "letter of the law".

Originally Posted by Nikki

So you mean to say that every tint shop that has tinted my car or someone I know's car was lying to us when they said we can't roll down the windows?

Probaby not, due to the way they were installing it. If it is installed with the door panels removed and the tint installed down below the bottom edge, trust me, you can definitely roll down the windows. Call the man I referred above and ask him about it. If he tells you I'm wrong, I'll pay for your phone call.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by CMD

Probaby not, due to the way they were installing it. If it is installed with the door panels removed and the tint installed down below the bottom edge, trust me, you can definitely roll down the windows. Call the man I referred above and ask him about it. If he tells you I'm wrong, I'll pay for your phone call.

yeah exactly so don't go advertising that people can roll down their windows without giving them that extra information.

i remember someone here telling a person with scratched aluminum trim to take a brillo pad to it and they completely ruined the trim.

people trust the information they read on here, so if you're going to give it then make sure you give the whole story. i bet that less than 5% of tint places remove your door panel.

[govtec]

Originally Posted by pawarrant

Check out Title 75 of Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes Section 4524-e. Without a medical exemption or other exempted vehicle, the statute is pretty clear that aftermarket tint is illegal. Some officers will also cite under section 4107-b-2 for violating Department (PennDOT) rules and regulations. You are correct that most officers will let light tint go, and will cite based on "the spirit of the law" rather than the "letter of the law".

i don't know if the fact sheet supersedes the statutes u quoted. http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...ets/fs-sun.pdf

in the statutes itself, it's ambiguous when it states "does not permitt a person to see or view the inside of the vehicle through the windshield, side wing OR side window of vehicle." from that statement i assume as long as my front windshields aren't tinted and on the other windows a person could see through light tints from any distance, i am legal.

Originally Posted by Nikki

yeah exactly so don't go advertising that people can roll down their windows without giving them that extra information.

i remember someone here telling a person with scratched aluminum trim to take a brillo pad to it and they completely ruined the trim.

people trust the information they read on here, so if you're going to give it then make sure you give the whole story. i bet that less than 5% of tint places remove your door panel.

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, and I'm not being elitist here. But I can't imagine tinting my windows if I couldn't roll them down, especially on a new BMW. (Are you kidding? I guess you're not). I mean, I rarely roll my windows down 'cause I'm an air conditioning freak, but I still would never even consider tinting my Bimmer if I was restricted like that. I guess I've learned something here.

But the real lesson here is, in my opinion, you don't have to settle for a window tinting job where you can't roll your windows down. All you have to do is find someone who can do the job correctly. IMO, there is a right way and a wrong way to do just about everything. And if you got a tint job where you can't roll your windows down or it will damage your tint, that, my friends, is wrong.

[davinet78]

i prefer my car stock

[Juve29]

I got my windows tinted last month and the car looks amazing.

I did 50% in the front, 65% in the back windows and 85% the rear window.

The legal limit is 30% but 50% is usually tolerated.

I had to wait two days before I could roll down the windows.

[txusa03]

no choice for undecided.

[noflash]

Originally Posted by CMD

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, and I'm not being elitist here. But I can't imagine tinting my windows if I couldn't roll them down, especially on a new BMW. (Are you kidding? I guess you're not). I mean, I rarely roll my windows down 'cause I'm an air conditioning freak, but I still would never even consider tinting my Bimmer if I was restricted like that. I guess I've learned something here.

But the real lesson here is, in my opinion, you don't have to settle for a window tinting job where you can't roll your windows down. All you have to do is find someone who can do the job correctly. IMO, there is a right way and a wrong way to do just about everything. And if you got a tint job where you can't roll your windows down or it will damage your tint, that, my friends, is wrong.

I think the miscommunication is that you shouldn't roll down your windows for a day or two immediately after installation to allow them to dry and prevent damage to the tint (and conceivably moving parts in the door). Afterwards, you are free to roll up/down at your leisure. This should hold true whether the door panels are removed or not.

[noflash]

Originally Posted by MIKEYMIKE

No such thing is factory tint on the E90. If the dealership has it done for you, they are simply outsourcing the job to a tint shop.

It is a factory option for at least some European countries. (fyi)

[javajaws]

Originally Posted by Nikki

please don't lie to people, you wouldn't want them to ruin their tint.

At first I thought I had missed something while reading this thread. Then I re-read it and decided it was somebody else who I think missed something.

Gearcraft was initially talking about comments from his dealer that he could NEVER roll his windows down if tinted. Nikki then chimed in and stated you could but after a couple of days to let the tint dry.

CMD then chimes in saying Gearcraft's dealer is full of it (referring to the never roll them down bit...not to the initial couple days for drying).

I hope everyone is on the same page now...