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Guess I'll be getting the oil changed at the dealer from now on. This was the only time I had anyone else change it other than the dealer.
But, it's still hard to believe these mechanics would recommend something for my car that would cause harm. thanks for the info guys
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But I respect the opinions on recent posts about this and they tend to lean toward not using it because our NA gasoline is not as good as the EU. Even if you use top tier. And as a result LL-01 is better for our engines in NA. Maybe there is no real answer to this.
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Yes, it still does. LL-01 is a very extensive qualification/certification requirement and has several criteria that oil must meet, more than just long drain ability. It must be shear resistant, deposit resistant, low NOAK etc., any oil that has LL-01, Porsche A40 and Mercedes Benz 229.5 approval must be excellent oil. An oil just can't be synthetic to meet these requirements and typically only the "best" oils will meet these certifications.
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I get the "Euro A3/B4." Looks like it comes in a 5W-30 and 0W-40 (or 0W-30 according to their website now.) I like 0-40 (need to check what's in the garage...), but my mechanic uses 5-30.
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Good question, it says api/sn on the front. I don't see the LL-01 designation on the front.
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The A3/B4 stuff meets BMW Longlife-01. Not saying it's not quality oil - just don't want anyone to pick that up thinking it's LL-01 approved.
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I am curious why folks like running 0w-40. Are they concerned with cold weather starts? |
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Castrol's 0W-40 is one of their best oils on the market. High PAO base stock, great add pack (high TBN), meets virtually all Euro requirements. Low pour point, high flash point, high HTHS, very cheap to buy. What is not to like?
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I think he's asking why 0w-40 vs 5w-40. The lower viscosity (thinner) 0w oil is for colder weather. Depends on where you live.
First # is cold start up viscosity. 0w is lower or thinner than 5w at low temps. The second number (the -40) is warm or hot oil viscosity so once up to temp they are theoretically the same. Whether you need 0w or 5w depends on temps where you live, do you park inside overnight in a warmer garage or outside, etc. When it comes to oil some people talk about it like it's a religion. BobsTheOilGuy is the church for them. Personally I take a simpler view. Use BMW approved Longlife (LL-01) oil, and change it every 5,000 to 7,500 miles. Why? Oil & oil changes are cheap, engines are expensive.
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Some added info.
https://www.bimmershops.com/oil-for-bmw Oil for most BMW passenger vehicles and SAVs: *BMW TwinPower Turbo Engine Oils - Oils designed for BMW vehicles by BMW. *Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30 *Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30 *Beginning in 2015, BMW is recommending Shell/Pennzoil PurePlus Oils as their aftermarket oil.
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I do park mine in the garage and the coldest it gets on the mountain here in Virginia is 0 F and that is extremely rare. I don't drive my 135 much in the winter anyway. Thanks for the responses everyone! I will go with the 5w-30 LL-01. |
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BMW recently changed fluid suppliers - ie: got a better deal. So now they partner with Shell. Surely doesn't invalidate the Castrol recommendation. I used to swear by Mobil1, but I haven't put it in my 1'er since it isn't LL-01 certified.
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To keep it simple:
LL01 for petrol engines LL04 for diesel engines. Other markets might have different literature from BMW due to varying fuel grades however. FWIW im currently using Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 (Pureplus, made in Hong Kong). It meets LL01 and many other OEM approvals, it's very cheap here when the auto stores are flogging it in the catalogs and it sounds like a good drop. One thing i noticed though is the oil temp seems to reach operating temp quicker and sit a touch higher compared to Castrol 5w30 LL01 and Penrite 5w40. |
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Well, learn something new everyday. Never thought oil could get even more complicated.
Didn't realize mobile1 was dropped or that they upgraded/changed oil specs so much.
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Castrol Edge 0W-40 is still LL01 approved from what I'm seeing on the bottle. Unless they're lying...
It's what I'm going with because it's $25-26 for 5 quarts (which is real cheap) and the 0W should help a bit more with cold starts. I tend to have some shorter and more aggressive drives, so I like the oil to be thinner when it's cold. |
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