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Op, you should have put up a poll. I pick the 1M over M3 for so many reasons, assuming it will be a true M and handle better. If not I will be holding onto the n55 for a while and eventually add a Porsche or next gen M1 to the stable. M3 is to big and heavy, to me it is not an M car, but a status car that is overpriced. I prefer the style of 135 over M3 as well, it just works for me.
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PROS - Last chance to own a NA high revving V8 with incredible exhaust note - M tuned chassis - Remarkable handling and poise (despite size/weight) - Ride quality suitable for daily driver (available with EDC) - DCT - Aggressive looks CONS - Power delivery best at high revs and may not be optimal for routine city driving - Weight (1680 kg) - Price - Fuel consumption - Too civilized/refined E82 1M PROS - FI with low end torque well suited to typical city driving - Last chance to own a FI six cylinder in a chassis of this size (F20 to use 4 cylinder) - Lighter weight (?1450-1500 kg) and shorter wheelbase (more edgy/tossable) similar to e36/e46 M3 - Price - Better aftermarket tuning potential - DCT (same software/gearing as M3?) - Unique styling - BMW's modern day attempt to emulate the e30 M3 (i.e the 1M will assume the traditional role of the M3) CONS - Low revving FI motor - Potential cooling and HPFP issues (similar to N54) - Not as light as it should be - Dated chassis (?with limited alteration by M division due to time and financial constraints) - Polarizing looks - Soon to be outdated with release of F20 1 series - No respect (a "poor mans" M3) Having driven the e92 M3, I found the sonorous motor and handling to be truly remarkable. I would buy it for the engine alone. But the current M3, like the 3 series in general, is getting too big/heavy and overly refined. It doesn't have the edginess that I am looking for. If the 1M is in fact a throwback to previous generation M3s, then I will go with the baby M. On the other hand, if they use a minimally tweaked 335is N54, then I will direct my deposit towards the last of the naturally aspirated M cars. |
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^^ That's pretty much it. Though I'd argue that it has plenty of low end grunt for daily driving. Just not as much as the N54/N55 under 3k rpms. x35i owners are just spoiled by an abundance of low end torque.
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08-21-2010, 10:50 AM | #30 |
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M3 is definitely over priced and I know this one will be too. ON the other hand I like what I see and Ill probably pay it if isnt that outrageous
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It's called downshifting.
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So true! There is no substitute!
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08-21-2010, 07:23 PM | #35 |
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Cop magnets are no fun. A porsche has never passed me on the street. Not to much fun if you can't drive a fast car fast. On the track a 911 in the wrong hands is easy to roll. Should at least drive a perfectly balanced cayman.
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08-21-2010, 08:34 PM | #37 |
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No, In the hands of an amateur, it is easy to roll a 911 at speed. Maybe I'm to critical. I love the 911 but a BMW is a more balanced car.
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You might wanna edit this before it goes public.
911 can't handle statement might haunt you... Cayman S is better - gotta give you that. Just needs a bit more power |
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I'm gonna make you live with that one... 911's are some of the most capable track cars around. BMW's balance is great, I don't deny (which is why I drive one of course) but to say Porsche isn't as good if not even just as good, is a foolish statement.
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I find it funny when Americans claim that some cars are overpriced... 135i in Australia = $75K+, M3? try $180k+!!!
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