Apex ARC-8 (hyper silver)

arrutled · 02-24-2010, 09:51 AM

I am befuddled

arrutled · 02-24-2010, 12:24 PM

eibach springs ordered. 2$ for a guaranteed Friday delivery. sweet. I called vorshlag to chat with them. Terry told me the OEM springs are a PITA. hence the rash decision

Eddy@ApexWheels · 02-24-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arrutled

eibach springs ordered. 2$ for a guaranteed Friday delivery. sweet. I called vorshlag to chat with them. Terry told me the OEM springs are a PITA. hence the rash decision

Terry mentioned the spring compressor issue. I didn't know you were attempting it while it was still mounted on the car. But yes, some lowering springs are always a good thing to add

Your install should go much smoother the second time around.

arrutled · 02-24-2010, 01:00 PM

Yes indeed. I am already in Class A for the CCA so I figured another 2 points wouldnt hurt! Thanks a lot for your help Eddy!!

larryn · 02-24-2010, 06:02 PM

Wow!! It'll look good too, Andy. I sent PM, bro.

Bdh821 · 02-24-2010, 09:27 PM

I'm jealous of you both..

arrutled · 02-25-2010, 08:51 AM

Ill let you take her for a lap at autocross if your nice

larryn · 02-25-2010, 12:13 PM

We're going to have near twins, it seems. Time to tune up, Andy.

arrutled · 02-25-2010, 12:25 PM

Ha, its been really hard to hold out this long, trust me. I dunno if ill make it another summer.

arrutled · 02-28-2010, 05:04 PM

Well camber plates/springs are in, no pictures yet. Hopefully this week will do that.
One small issue: The ABS sensor could be disconnected or broken because that light is on and I have no traction control because of it. Lets hope it doesn't snow. any advice?

RäDIOCLäSH · 03-01-2010, 02:10 PM

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on these wheels,but I wanna know:
Can you use the tpms setup from the stock tire/wheel when you mount these wheels?
(I was able to do this with my Mini when I moved to a non runflat/lighter aftermarket wheel.)
thanks

Eddy@ApexWheels · 03-01-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RäDIOCLäSH

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on these wheels,but I wanna know:
Can you use the tpms setup from the stock tire/wheel when you mount these wheels?
(I was able to do this with my Mini when I moved to a non runflat/lighter aftermarket wheel.)
thanks

Yes,

You can use the OEM TPS sensors with these wheels

arrutled · 03-02-2010, 08:01 PM

overall impression of eibach springs and vorshlag plates on front stock struts.... beautiful stance, but pretty much everything else sucks. Really dissapointed in the ride and noise level. I might buy the koni FSD to help with hitting potholes around town, cause that is a bit jarring. Also hoping that will address the weird springy sound(and creak, see below) when hitting bumps at low speeds. Camber plates definetly transfer a lot more energy to the car and they creak(maybe this is the spring, dunno). Only time I can enjoy the benefits are on very smooth curves and thats not often around here.

double frowny face.

does anyone think the FSD's will solve my problems??

larryn · 03-02-2010, 09:07 PM

Andy, before you do anything, drive my car. I have no springy sounds and the majority of the sounds I have are the whining of my very fat Star Specs.

acivick · 03-02-2010, 09:45 PM

Hopefully something just wasn't completely locked down. Would prefer not to have a lot of road noise come next week.

arrutled · 03-03-2010, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

Andy, before you do anything, drive my car. I have no springy sounds and the majority of the sounds I have are the whining of my very fat Star Specs.

wouldnt that be a nice sound. I would like to drive your car. but if thats the case, musta screwed something up on the install because i really dont like it. I got creaks, boings, and whams!

Eddy@ApexWheels · 03-03-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by arrutled

wouldnt that be a nice sound. I would like to drive your car. but if thats the case, musta screwed something up on the install because i really dont like it. I got creaks, boings, and whams!

Vorshlag plates should make zero noise. The spring end must be doing something unusual in either the top or bottom spring perch. Definitely check the install.

arrutled · 03-03-2010, 05:38 PM

The noise is occuring during the rebound of the car. Found that out during a good ole push test. Does that mean anything to anyone?

larryn · 03-03-2010, 06:24 PM

Sunday AM, be here or be square, Andy. We'll take 'em apart and put 'em back together. I am wondering if the spring is not sitting in the perch correctly, and is rubbing during compression and rebound. Getting the compressor clamps on, facing the right way, and on the spring in the right locations so that you can put it all back together, isn't easy. I've done it a bunch of times though.

arrutled · 03-04-2010, 06:06 AM

sounds like a plan if they are not fixed tonight. installing the rear springs tonight.

larryn · 03-04-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by arrutled

sounds like a plan if they are not fixed tonight. installing the rear springs tonight.

I cannot tell you how important it is to make sure you mark the position of the offset head bolts. Take a black sharpie and mark the position of the bolt you are removing for the carrier, before loosening anything in back.

If you do not do that you'll have messed up camber and toe.

arrutled · 03-04-2010, 08:50 AM

Thank you. Don't need anymore "ah shits" lol

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02-24-2010, 12:24 PM	#46
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	eibach springs ordered. 2$ for a guaranteed Friday delivery. sweet. I called vorshlag to chat with them. Terry told me the OEM springs are a PITA. hence the rash decision Last edited by arrutled; 02-24-2010 at 12:31 PM..
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02-24-2010, 01:00 PM	#48
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Yes indeed. I am already in Class A for the CCA so I figured another 2 points wouldnt hurt! Thanks a lot for your help Eddy!! __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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02-24-2010, 06:02 PM	#49
larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Wow!! It'll look good too, Andy. I sent PM, bro.
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02-24-2010, 09:27 PM	#50
Bdh821 Major 44 Rep 1,265 Posts Drives: 2021 M550i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MA iTrader: (3)	I'm jealous of you both..
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02-25-2010, 08:51 AM	#51
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Ill let you take her for a lap at autocross if your nice __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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02-25-2010, 12:13 PM	#52
larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	We're going to have near twins, it seems. Time to tune up, Andy.
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02-25-2010, 12:25 PM	#53
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Ha, its been really hard to hold out this long, trust me. I dunno if ill make it another summer. __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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02-28-2010, 05:04 PM	#54
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Well camber plates/springs are in, no pictures yet. Hopefully this week will do that. One small issue: The ABS sensor could be disconnected or broken because that light is on and I have no traction control because of it. Lets hope it doesn't snow. any advice? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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03-01-2010, 02:10 PM	#55
RäDIOCLäSH Private First Class 4 Rep 116 Posts Drives: jb 135i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: las vegas iTrader: (0)	tpms I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on these wheels,but I wanna know: Can you use the tpms setup from the stock tire/wheel when you mount these wheels? (I was able to do this with my Mini when I moved to a non runflat/lighter aftermarket wheel.) thanks __________________ 2010 Jet Black 135i Sport Package
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03-02-2010, 08:01 PM	#57
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	overall impression of eibach springs and vorshlag plates on front stock struts.... beautiful stance, but pretty much everything else sucks. Really dissapointed in the ride and noise level. I might buy the koni FSD to help with hitting potholes around town, cause that is a bit jarring. Also hoping that will address the weird springy sound(and creak, see below) when hitting bumps at low speeds. Camber plates definetly transfer a lot more energy to the car and they creak(maybe this is the spring, dunno). Only time I can enjoy the benefits are on very smooth curves and thats not often around here. double frowny face. does anyone think the FSD's will solve my problems?? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks! Last edited by arrutled; 03-02-2010 at 08:35 PM..
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03-02-2010, 09:07 PM	#58
larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Andy, before you do anything, drive my car. I have no springy sounds and the majority of the sounds I have are the whining of my very fat Star Specs.
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03-02-2010, 09:45 PM	#59
acivick Lieutenant 10 Rep 446 Posts Drives: Dinan Sedona 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunnyvale, CA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	Hopefully something just wasn't completely locked down. Would prefer not to have a lot of road noise come next week.
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03-03-2010, 05:38 PM	#62
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	The noise is occuring during the rebound of the car. Found that out during a good ole push test. Does that mean anything to anyone? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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03-03-2010, 06:24 PM	#63
larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Sunday AM, be here or be square, Andy. We'll take 'em apart and put 'em back together. I am wondering if the spring is not sitting in the perch correctly, and is rubbing during compression and rebound. Getting the compressor clamps on, facing the right way, and on the spring in the right locations so that you can put it all back together, isn't easy. I've done it a bunch of times though.
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03-04-2010, 06:06 AM	#64
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	sounds like a plan if they are not fixed tonight. installing the rear springs tonight. __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Thank you. Don't need anymore "ah shits" lol __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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