OE Tuning EZ Flash Group Buy

[Drawn05]

**No longer EZ Flash**

Jeremy has confirmed that the EZ Flash is not yet available for the n52. Even though I had mentioned it, he has been refering to his regular flash tools. This will mean that no map-switching will be available and that it will be a one off tune.

Each read can take 20min-1hour depending on ecu type. Write can take 10-30minutes also.

Anyone wanting to return to stock will have to send ecu to USA office, no tools are sent out for this. First time is free, this also applies to reflashing tuned software in the event a dealer write over.

All my figures are based on my regularly available flash.

$399 +$50 to ship the tools

Tunes are offered for n52 engine (b25 or b30).


So this differs from what I originally stated, which was due to me asking for the EZ Flash tools and Jeremy having something else in mind. So sorry about that.

Its still the only flash tune available in Australia and @ $450 thats still good value. Your ECU can stay in the car.

Its a shame that we will not have map-switching but at the end of the day a better performing car is what matters.

** So if you are interested PM me**

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Perhaps add in the link with more detail on the tune?
I know with the 325i the gains are only about 6-7kw but with the 125i the gains are a bit more.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Some questions from the E90Post guys:

- Can the car run on E10 with this tune? Or anything apart from 98?
- Is this applicable to a 323i E9X?
- If someone were located in Brissy how can they get the tune?

if you pass me Jeremey's email I'm happy to email him myself to save you the trouble

[Drawn05]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

Some questions from the E90Post guys:

- Can the car run on E10 with this tune? Or anything apart from 98?
- Is this applicable to a 323i E9X?
- If someone were located in Brissy how can they get the tune?

if you pass me Jeremey's email I'm happy to email him myself to save you the trouble

The tune is standard for US 91 AKI fuel, which iirc is about 94/95 RON in aus.
Jeremy said he has tunes for all inline 6 engines.
Postage is US$50 each, it will be posted to him at his desired address.

The address I have been contacting him with is sales@oetuning.com.

hope this helps.

[mra]

I love this line on their website:

"Today's automotive world is an exciting place, filled with new technologies, as well as innovative uses of existing technologies. OE tuning specialises in such technologies."

[QSH17Z]

I'd be happy to sign up for this right now but I've got some questions:

Surely if tunes are specific to each model then wouldn't they need to do a specific tune for the 125i rather than just sending out the tune for a 128i? Perhaps I haven't read all the info properly though?

Is there any indication as to what increase a 125i could expect to get seeing as a 128i is already more powerful as standard anyway?

My car is currently at the dealer more often than at home so what's the go with the tune after the car goes back to the dealer and gets potentially wiped? Is it a case of simply reflashing or uploading the tune again?

How easy is the flashing procedure? Is everything provided or do I need a laptop or something? You've mentioned previously that they need a copy of the cars tune sent to them via email and then they send the tune back etc...confusing.

Will the tune be detectable by the dealer as I still have years on my warranty to go. Is it really quick to switch back and forth from tune to standard etc?

Ready and willing to buy but more detailed info would be nice.

[Drawn05]

The 125i is not a model for sale in the USA, so being a company based in the US they do not advertise a tune for it.

The 128i and 125i are identical apart from the intake manifold adjuster units and the panel air filter. This tune (as well as a few others around the world) supposedly alters the valve lift, rather than just the afr. There are a few threads on these tunes on the US section of this forum.

What is the reason your car is in the dealers so often? A laptop would be useful as you can use the OBDII flash tool to check error codes as well as flash the ecu. I have read it takes 3-5 mins to flash a 335i with the flash tool, so I would assume the same for us.

This flash system supposedly allows for flashing at your whim, so if it is flashed to stock it can be reflashed to the tune. The N54N55 equipped cars feature, iirc, a tamper proof flash monitor that will inform a dealer that a potentially warranty-voiding flash has been performed, afaik the N52 does not have this.

To my knowledge no-one in Australia has a remaped 125i as no-one in australia offers a 125i flash. This tune has been around for at least 8 months (you can check on the US 128/328 threads) and no-one has reported any issues and some of them are even swapping their manifolds over for ours.

At less than $500, this is only a little more expensive than the BMS PBX yet has the potential to give REAL gains rather than just a throttle lag adjustment.

[QSH17Z]

Thanks for your answers.

I'm still curious though about the 125i specifics. So this tune is for a 128i but sold to us as a tune for a 125i? I realise that they don't have a 125i in USA but I'm of the opinion that surely it can't be so easy as to just flash the 125i with a 128i tune? Regardless of them being largely the same engine, surely the vendor would need to develop a specific tune for the 125i?

My car's new home at the dealership is related to contaminated fuel from last year.

If the tunes are so readily swapped back to stock why does the vendor need a minimum of 5 people to be interested in sending the flashes out here? Is that because they have a specific 125i tune or need someone to email back the standard 125i software so they can develop a tune?

[Drawn05]

I have asked both Active Autowerke and OE Tuning if their respective 128i tunes are compatible for 125i, and both gave the affirmative. The model number shouldnt hamper the ability for AFRs and valve lift parameters to be altered, which is what this tune does.

The reason why 5 people are required is to be cost effective. I initially asked if anything was available in Australia (besides shipping my ECU overseas and back) and I was asking just for myself. I was informed that if 5 people in Aus would be interested it would be worthwhile for him to send the flash tools. So here is the offer.

From my understanding, Jeremy has been in the business for quite some time and is well respected. People are willing to put his tunes into cars much more expensive and powerful than our 125s, so I think we would be OK.

[Drawn05]

As some people are still unsure of the EZ Flash process, I have found a good link that gives a good step by step description.

http://forums.yuppieracing.net/showthread.php?t=4756

(note: this is for a different car but same process)

[Samoht]

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[Samoht]

I cant seem to find the engine specs that they have posted, but if its good enough for you guys, it shouldbe good enough for me....but appreciate if those that have spoken to him can confirm whether my 323i (325i engine manifold, exhaust etc etc) is applicable...i want the 325i tune so I can ditch the bms pbx.

[Drawn05]

The 323i shares the same engine, but I think there is a difference in the amount of adjuster units in the intake manifold. The difference in power is 20kw +20nm, so I would assume that software would have a lot to do with that.

Jeremy stated that he has tunes for all of the current inline 6 BMW engines.

PM me if you are interested.

[jksgoh]

just out of curiosity, would it be possible to grab the 130i tune off someone and put it straight on the 125i instead of going an "after market" tune?

[chylld]

Originally Posted by jksgoh

just out of curiosity, would it be possible to grab the 130i tune off someone and put it straight on the 125i instead of going an "after market" tune?

Long story short, no. Even after fitting the 130i's three-stage manifold, no.

Someone tried this and the car was barely drivable, let alone at 130i performance.

[Cruiser]

Ok, a few questions

1. So is it true that no one actually knows what output we would get from the 125 with this tune. Would it necessarily be the same as that for the tuned 128?

2. Have you asked Jeremy directly whether BMW is now reflashing vehicles with tamper proof programming for the N52?

3. If we actually need a BMW flash at some point for an update such as Alpine upgrade would we be in a situation where you couldn't reinstall the OE tune without losing the upgraded facility? ...Maybe then you could email OE again and pay for another tune?

4. If you flash back to standard for service or what have you, does the tool replace the file with all the same details so that the reversed mod was entirely undetectable?

Thanks all.

[Drawn05]

1. The flash would alter the parameters of the 125i ecu the same way as they are on the tuned 128i. Some guys from the US have had their 128i ECUs flashed in Germany by tuners who developed their software for the the 125i and got the same gains. It is true that no-one here knows for sure, but it is unlikely that the modifications made to the 128i software would be different for the 125i. The ECU parameters that de-throttle the 128i would be the same (and slightly more) in the 125i.

2. No. I have only read on certain websites (such as the when Jim Conforti was working on the shark edit) that BMW has the ability to see if the software has been modified (even if piggybacked or flashed back to stock) on the MSD81 DME (135i). I havent come across anything to say that they have this ability with the MSV80 (125/8i). That said, I personally havent heard of any 135i owners having any grief with dealers (thats if they are still expecting the warranty).

3. That I dont know, but that is a likely issue with any flash tune. I can ask them that question if you like.

4. To my knowledge they would not detect it. It does pose an ethical question to the end-user as to whether they would feel comfortable running higher performance than stock yet still want to claim warranty for mechanical issues. But this is no different than the PBX in that regard and most people on here seem to have that. Also, arent dealer services conducted by apprentices who dont care anyway?

The benefit of this EZ Flash solution is that we wouldnt have to ship our ECUs overseas, which is the only way you can get any n52 tune at the moment. Keeping your ECU where it is now (in your car) is the best solution.
Also, if you are not satisified you can flash back to stock without going back to the tuner.

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by Cruiser

Ok, a few questions

1. So is it true that no one actually knows what output we would get from the 125 with this tune. Would it necessarily be the same as that for the tuned 128?

2. Have you asked Jeremy directly whether BMW is now reflashing vehicles with tamper proof programming for the N52?

3. If we actually need a BMW flash at some point for an update such as Alpine upgrade would we be in a situation where you couldn't reinstall the OE tune without losing the upgraded facility? ...Maybe then you could email OE again and pay for another tune?

4. If you flash back to standard for service or what have you, does the tool replace the file with all the same details so that the reversed mod was entirely undetectable?

Thanks all.

[Cruiser]

Thanks for your answers - yep if you could get some more definitive answers from Jeremy about questions 2 and 3 above then I might be in.

By the way you know there are 2 other tunes available for us here locally. They are also flashes, they have dyno data sheets available too.

They cost significantly more $ (between $1500 and $2100) and obviously don't come with flash tool to make things easy.

The tunes are from Powerchip and from DMS.

Strange thing around here is that every time a thread gets busy with someone about to flash a 125i it suddently stops and no results get posted.

Even Andrew (SBM) was looking at flashing a 125i about 18 months ago and no results were forth coming...?

Back to topic, would be nice to understand a little more detail on how the flash works - is it one file only dealing with the engine paramaters that is refreshed or is it the whole programming of the car including other areas such level of stereo specs, sat nav specs and other things the car may be optioned out with?
As i said previously if you wanted to retrofit items later it may make it difficult to have both the tune active and the retrofitted item.

See how you go.

[Drawn05]

I fired off an email earlier today with an extensive list of questions that people want answered by jeremy, so hopefully we can get an answer to your question soon.

I am unsure of the need for the entire ecu to be reflashed by the dealer to accomodate for a stereo etc. upgrade. I have been looking at the Bavarian Technic OBD coding tools, it seems to offer some good flexibility for issues such as yours. They dont seem expensive either.

Originally Posted by Cruiser

Thanks for your answers - yep if you could get some more definitive answers from Jeremy about questions 2 and 3 above then I might be in.

By the way you know there are 2 other tunes available for us here locally. They are also flashes, they have dyno data sheets available too.

They cost significantly more $ (between $1500 and $2100) and obviously don't come with flash tool to make things easy.

The tunes are from Powerchip and from DMS.

Strange thing around here is that every time a thread gets busy with someone about to flash a 125i it suddently stops and no results get posted.

Even Andrew (SBM) was looking at flashing a 125i about 18 months ago and no results were forth coming...?

Back to topic, would be nice to understand a little more detail on how the flash works - is it one file only dealing with the engine paramaters that is refreshed or is it the whole programming of the car including other areas such level of stereo specs, sat nav specs and other things the car may be optioned out with?
As i said previously if you wanted to retrofit items later it may make it difficult to have both the tune active and the retrofitted item.

See how you go.

[Cruiser]

Hey, that it disappointing...

The beauty of the EZ flash system would have made this worth while.

I think I would now rather pay more for a local tuner who can add/remove and alter the tune right here.

Eventually there will be more demand for our engine.

Good try though, and if any of you guys manage this tune then please let us know how it goes!