No carbon fibre roof?

as7920 · 11-20-2010, 07:52 AM

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The photo above was taken from the recent fan trip that gave 12 randomly picked fans from across the globe a chance to see and drive the new 1M. And here for the first time we can clearly see that the roof is indeed metal with no carbon weave in sight.

It would be a shame if the roof was not an option but I would hardly call it a dealbreaker.

Mark.

Fuerza · 11-20-2010, 10:36 AM

Itanius · 11-20-2010, 11:48 AM

The carbon fiber roof is a bit overrated anyways. Keeping costs down is more important than minimal weight savings and bling.

eugegall · 11-20-2010, 01:51 PM

Are there anymore reasons for me not to get this car. Mark i think ill pull my deposit back soon. Ill wait till next month but im not too impressed at the moment.

crzy4135i · 11-20-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eugegall

Are there anymore reasons for me not to get this car. Mark i think ill pull my deposit back soon. Ill wait till next month but im not too impressed at the moment.

I'd be happy not being forced to buy a moonroof.

///M1 · 11-20-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Itanius

The carbon fiber roof is a bit overrated anyways. Keeping costs down is more important than minimal weight savings and bling.

What people overlook with the CF look is it's #1 redeeming quality: bringing the car's center of gravity DOWN. The bling is just a cosmetic item, what is as important as its weight savings is that those are shaved off the top/highest point part of the car!

So to reiterate, top 3 qualities of a CF room, in order of importance:
1. Lower center of gravity
2. Lower weight
3. Visual appeal

I think not having an option at least for a CF roof is a letdown. Every other ///M coupe has it (M3 + M6)

ORIGIN M. · 11-20-2010, 09:14 PM

^ Agreed!

Garduna · 11-20-2010, 09:22 PM

no cf roof.... FAIL!

Groundpilot · 11-21-2010, 12:00 AM

No CF roof, no DCT is a deal breaker for me.

ORIGIN M. · 11-21-2010, 02:56 AM

I hear ya...

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Originally Posted by M3 09 AND135I 11

No CF roof, no DCT is a deal breaker for me.

crzy4135i · 11-21-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M1

What people overlook with the CF look is it's #1 redeeming quality: bringing the car's center of gravity DOWN. The bling is just a cosmetic item, what is as important as its weight savings is that those are shaved off the top/highest point part of the car!

So to reiterate, top 3 qualities of a CF room, in order of importance:
1. Lower center of gravity
2. Lower weight
3. Visual appeal

I think not having an option at least for a CF roof is a letdown. Every other ///M coupe has it (M3 + M6)

If BMW was serious about this model it would be called "M1" and have CF as an option. This is more of a one-off "M coupe" model meant to squeeze more sales out of the current design.. not a standard M model that you'll see every year. We should appreciate it for what it is.

Brandon26pdx · 11-21-2010, 04:59 PM

I'm sure the engineers wanted to, but understandably some of the blingy high-end accessories from the M3 weren't going to make it to the 1M. Left on the cutting room floor by the bean counters so to speak, in the interest of keeping the cost down.

I'd just be happy they killed the sunroof as well.

Itanius · 11-21-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M1

What people overlook with the CF look is it's #1 redeeming quality: bringing the car's center of gravity DOWN. The bling is just a cosmetic item, what is as important as its weight savings is that those are shaved off the top/highest point part of the car!

So to reiterate, top 3 qualities of a CF room, in order of importance:
1. Lower center of gravity
2. Lower weight
3. Visual appeal

I think not having an option at least for a CF roof is a letdown. Every other ///M coupe has it (M3 + M6)

While I'm no expert in balancing a car, a ~15 pound reduction is pretty minimal no matter what part of the car it comes off of.

Evice · 11-21-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crzy4135i

This is more of a one-off "M coupe".

Love the idiom

Fits perfectly.

Pete_vB · 11-22-2010, 02:49 AM

Ha- sounds like BMW's marketing machine has worked too well.

I don't believe a CF roof is good bang-for-the-buck on a car in this weight and price bracket. There are simply too many better places to spend the same money that would give more return on the investment (lighter wheels and brakes, weight off the nose, etc). There is a reason (other than the BMW's rather high CG) that none of BMWs competitors spec carbon roofs- they have run the numbers and found the money better spent elsewhere.

Would a carbon roof be nice to have? Sure. But it is at least as much "bling" as it is functional, and I certainly won't fault BMW for limiting costs and putting function first.

This from someone who added a carbon roof to their own car.

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