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Sports, leather, comfort, cold, looking at 39k. Going to be too rich unless I'd be able to get one for invoice. Even then...
Maybe a Camaro or Evo MR after all. Glad I got time to see how all this plays out. Or maybe a used GT-R. |
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There is of course nothing wrong with being turned off by the price and buying something different. But people sometimes get hung up on these trivial things - Bluetooth and butt-warmers are definitely NOT what makes a BMW. That's why you get so many people contemptuosly remarking on the ripp-off that BMW's are - usually without ever having driven one. Then they drive one, it blows their mind away, and they finally get it. When I shop for a daily driver in this price range, I look for a certain amount of practicality as a given. But beyond that, the car must speak to me on many levels, must entertain me for as long as I own it. iPod connection is great (I have it on my 335) but if that stood between me and getting a car that drives the way I want, I would always choose the stripped base car, and to hell with the iPod connection. But that's just me...
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11-15-2007, 04:01 PM | #116 |
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Look at the competition
At first I felt like the priceing was a bit high too, but then I considered what else was in this segment. Arguably there are very few cars that can match the performance specs from the factory under 40k.
I owned a 2005 STi and loved the performance, but craved a bit more luxury after a while. Then along comes the 1 series. More power than the STi, but with luxury built in, all for less than the new STi. The best part is that if I want more luxury, all I have to do is pick some opitons. If I want more sport, I just don't get those options. The STi didn't even have any options to speak of until the 'limited' edition came out for a few grand more (but still no options). Before I sold my STi, I considered putting 5k into the interior to make it a bit more plush, but in the end I couldn't justify the expense to make the STi more luxurious when things like Porsche's and BMWs were out there with a more desirable balance b/t sport and luxury. I also knew I most likely wouldn't get any real money back out of those mods at resale. For me a big selling feature of the 135 and why I think the pricing is pretty good is that there is no other car that gives you this kind of performance and luxury in this small car/under $40k segment. Not everyone wants a bigger 3 series, some of us are looking for this exact package. Info: 2008 STi is 34,995: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071115....cing-confirmed |
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11-15-2007, 04:10 PM | #118 |
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Car 29,000 Graphite 475 Sports Pack 1,000 Steptronic 1,275 Heated Seats 500 Comfort Acess 500 Ipod 400 HiFi Upgrade 875 Delivery 2,150 Total 36,175 *Military Sales FTW
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11-15-2007, 04:10 PM | #119 |
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Its funny, my 1989 535i daily driver had many of the things people are complaining about standard. Power seats, heated seats, heated rear seats, (heated everything including door handles mirrors washer) memory seats, oil cooler, auto-dimming (canada only at the time) and a million more things you would never expect. Back then everything except for the headlight washing system and cold weather package were standard. No comfort access, bluetooth, ipod, or navigation but i guess you can't have everything :smile:. the 535i also cost me less than the 135s premium package and is far more of a joy to drive daily than the 03 330Ci I had. go figure..
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11-15-2007, 04:40 PM | #122 |
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Funny how history repeats itself. I remember over on e90post.com for the release of the new 3. When the pricing for the E90 came out it was the same comments I see around here. too expensive, a rip off, not worth it, going to buy a ----- instead, etc. You can either afford a new BMW or you can't. It should seem that if you're already buying a $30,000 + car, a few more thousand shouldn't break the deal. Nothing drives like a BMW..... But hey what do I know.... As for the 128 that I want, I'll be getting a base model myself + sport, heated seats, and doing a ED to help save more cash, and tool around Europe for a week or so. The 128 should track and autocross just fine for me. I did the whole custom order thing and Performance Center Delivery on my 06' 325XiT, ending up almost fully optioned, and I won't make that mistake again. After all the options I paid for with my E91, I just get the feeling that the value was lost somewhere... Thousands of dollars worth of gadgets doesn't make the car drive any better IMHO. The Garmin Streetpilot used on my bike blows away the BMW nav., enough that I sometimes put the garmin in my car on top of the stock GPS. To each his own I guess, if I spent a lot of time in it I might want more options, but I don't commute at all, and 8 months a year I'm on my Beemer anyway. just my 2¢ |
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11-15-2007, 04:45 PM | #123 |
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Pretty much came in to exactly what I had planned. I was planning to get this as a performance car with some luxury. I don't have a family to worry about, so a small car like this is perfect. All I need is a couple options and I'm good to go + ED. I am now sure about getting the 135i.
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This a BMW folks, did anybody really think they were going to suddenly slash their margins on a car that is already probably the least profitable vehicle they offer here in the states? I hate to say it, but you gotta pay to play in the automotive world and this is just another instance of it. You want 0-60 in under 5 seconds, a well balanced ride, a quality interior, and good build quality for under 40K? I don't really know what else offers that... Though I may not end up getting this car (I am trying to decide whether I can swing such a large purchase at this point in my life), it certainly will not be because I felt it was a bad value. |
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Hey, if you think $35,675 is steep, wait until the Canadian prices are released (we typically get hit with anywhere from 10% - 30% premiums over and above US prices).... Add to that the fact that our dollar will likely remain at par or slightly better than the US dollar for some time to come, I'm not sure selling my 2000 XKR to pick up the 135i is such a good deal anymore.
Too bad too, as I'm first on the list with my local dealer when they finally arrive. |
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11-15-2007, 05:36 PM | #127 | |
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I believe, BMW's goal is to price this car so that they meet their sales targets while maximizing profits. It is a buisiness decision for them. We should treat our financial situation the same way. As smart consumers we should try to get the most for our dollar. For each buyer there needs to be justification for the cost of the vehicle with respect to all the other cars on the market. Not only with regards to the rest of the BMW lineup. Many will decide the 135 is worth the money, many will not. For different reasons. It isn't necessary for everyone to agree. |
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Captain, First of all I am jealous, but you deserve the discount. Second, gods speed to you and your buddies in Iraq!
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That's probably a little simplistic and such comments are getting a little tiresome. If someone can afford $30K, then they can probably swing $35K. The price is what I expected, but I'm still not totally convinced that it's worth it and I think that's the problem that people are having with the prices. Obviously YMMV.
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11-15-2007, 06:08 PM | #132 |
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Captain Chaos your list makes it so hard for me to pull the trigger on buyin a 135 now, or waiting until I am deployed to get one. I won't be for at least another year, but I am due for a new car now and have been waiting patiently for this one. Hopefully the lease deals aren't horrible and I can lease until deployed then buy one.
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