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      03-10-2016, 10:33 AM   #1
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RFT Recommendations

Still going between RFT and non-RFT. Keeping that in mind which RFT would you recommend? Not worried about the slightly smoother ride with non-RFT.
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Bump for this -- I had same question. No one recommends any RFTs? ;-)
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I prefer the superior traction and value of non-RFTs. That's why you don't see much focus on RFT tech here. The stiff sidewall which allows a RFT to be driven without air is what severely hampers its grip. We're all barely clinging to the road with our short wheelbase as it is!

That said, I'm sure Tire Rack has some good info on sticky RFTs, as much of an oxymoron as that is.
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      04-19-2016, 07:25 PM   #4
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Get a donut and real tires instead.
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Get a donut and real tires instead.
I already did. But let me just call it straight: I just moved to Metro Detroit, and all else being equal, the ability to simply drive home and worry about the tire there is starting to seem like a valuable insurance policy worth having versus when I lived in Western Pennsylvania.

I haven't driven on RFTs for about 5 years now. The OEMs on my 2009 135i were a little like driving on bricks. Have there been any improvements?

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I already did. But let me just call it straight: I just moved to Metro Detroit, and all else being equal, the ability to simply drive home and worry about the tire there is starting to seem like a valuable insurance policy worth having versus when I lived in Western Pennsylvania.

I haven't driven on RFTs for about 5 years now. The OEMs on my 2009 135i were a little like driving on bricks. Have there been any improvements?
No, the rft's suck. That is the bottom line.
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If you are staying run flat I would suggest staying with the O.E. tire. As mentioned there are superior options if you decide to go non runflat.
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If you are staying run flat I would suggest staying with the O.E. tire. As mentioned there are superior options if you decide to go non runflat.
Is that really the best RFT? Awful.
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I test drove 2011 135i with M Sport Pkg Convertible once with Bridgestone RFTs and it was THE worst riding car I have ever driven. However, I also test a 2012 135i with M Sport Pkg Coupe with different RFTs and it was significantly smoother, yet still firm. There have been dramatic improvements in RFTs but I'd stay away from the OEM Bridgestone RFTs. On the Tire Rack, the customer reviews for that particular tire were actually pretty funny, with people saying they almost sold the car before getting different RFTs...and surprisingly, Bridgestone is still selling the awful model! Non-RFTs are definitely better, and if I had bought one of the two cars, I would have immediately switched to Michelin PSSs.
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threw mine away gone p7's havent looked back
excellent ride

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Still going between RFT and non-RFT. Keeping that in mind which RFT would you recommend? Not worried about the slightly smoother ride with non-RFT.
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      05-08-2016, 05:50 PM   #11
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Bump for this -- I had same question. No one recommends any RFTs? ;-)
Right.
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Anyone tried the Michelin PS2-ZP (zero pressure run flats)? They are supposed to be better than the Bridgestone Run-crap
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      05-24-2016, 03:24 PM   #13
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Anyone tried the Michelin PS2-ZP (zero pressure run flats)? They are supposed to be better than the Bridgestone Run-crap
The sizes and availability seem to be pretty limited, not to mention $256/each. There is a 245/45-17, but I'm not sure if that will rub on the front without spacers / rolling.

Regardless, I'm just not in a position to replace the sub-frame bushings right now, so I'm sticking with RFT's for another round.
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      05-26-2016, 03:14 AM   #14
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They come in 225/40/18 & 255/35/18 which should fit no problem on a 135i.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...earDiameter=18
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Regardless, I'm just not in a position to replace the sub-frame bushings right now, so I'm sticking with RFT's for another round.
The notion that you need to modify the suspension when you ditch RFTs is a myth. I don't know where it came from and it refuses to die.
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Get the Whiteline RSFB inserts. Simple, cheap & big improvement.
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DITCH THEM,

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Still going between RFT and non-RFT. Keeping that in mind which RFT would you recommend? Not worried about the slightly smoother ride with non-RFT.
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because they suck LOL

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Bump for this -- I had same question. No one recommends any RFTs? ;-)
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Tire technology is changing as are roads, back in the day tire punctures where very common, now not so much.

Stats show that most spare tires are NEVER used.

Also having decent tread WILL protect you.

Of course there are accidents.

my wife's caravan only 1 since 2009, and that was becuase i removed a screw before doing a summer/winter change over DOH

in my neon, 4 years nothing

runflats are a false economy, once you get a puncture GENERALLY shops wont repair them, if you drive on for any length, you will need them replaced and the cost of 1 RFT can buy 2 goflats

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I already did. But let me just call it straight: I just moved to Metro Detroit, and all else being equal, the ability to simply drive home and worry about the tire there is starting to seem like a valuable insurance policy worth having versus when I lived in Western Pennsylvania.

I haven't driven on RFTs for about 5 years now. The OEMs on my 2009 135i were a little like driving on bricks. Have there been any improvements?
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Tire technology is changing as are roads, back in the day tire punctures where very common, now not so much.

Stats show that most spare tires are NEVER used.

Also having decent tread WILL protect you.

Of course there are accidents.

my wife's caravan only 1 since 2009, and that was becuase i removed a screw before doing a summer/winter change over DOH

in my neon, 4 years nothing

runflats are a false economy, once you get a puncture GENERALLY shops wont repair them, if you drive on for any length, you will need them replaced and the cost of 1 RFT can buy 2 goflats
You don't live in Vegas.
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true, but not sure what you mean

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