1 and 3 Sport Seats -- Same or different?

[Tom K.]

Originally Posted by jkp1187

Do they have lumbar?

Not likely since (as part of the ZPP), lumbar isn't available without leather.

Tom

[jkp1187]

Originally Posted by Tom K.

Not likely since (as part of the ZPP), lumbar isn't available without leather.

Tom

Right. Thanks.

[Add1ct]

no they dont have lumbar- they are manual, sport, non-heated, black leatherette

[FIRST1]

Originally Posted by larryn

I had a e90 and e82 at the same time for a few months and compared them. They are the same width and have the same 4 mounting points. Also, the electric control are identical.

The leather on the 3er is slightly nicer (better feeling and slightly softer)
The headrest on the 3er telescopes AND tilts (1er only telescopes)
The headrest mounts differ (I tried the e90 headrests in the e82, and the mounting holes on the e82 seats are further forward, making retrofit to 3er headrests not possible)
The stitching on the seats differ, as previously noted.
The back panels on the 3er have netted pockets.. the 1er does not

So, it seems they have the same "guts", but the rest differs slightly.

So you are confirming sport seats from a 3 series will fit in an e82? Are u speaking from experience? Been trying to find an answer to this. Would it make a difference if I got them from an e92? Looking for powered sport headed seats.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by FIRST1

So you are confirming sport seats from a 3 series will fit in an e82? Are u speaking from experience? Been trying to find an answer to this. Would it make a difference if I got them from an e92? Looking for powered sport headed seats.

You don't have sport seats in your car? If you're looking for just memory seats I'll tell you something - don't do it. It's not worth it.

[LuisBoston]

This is not entirely accurate. For LCI, the e90 went from having the seatback netting to not having it. Same goes with the headrest, later E90s did not have the telescoping headrests. Finally, the stitching also changed on the e90s mid-cycle.

FWIW my 2013 128i does have the netting. I had a 2007 E90 with seats that felt flimsier than my new 2013 128. I bought that car with 22k on the odo so maybe they were just more broken in? My car now has 12k and the seats still feel more "substantial" than those in the e90.

I think over time the padding will become more worn in and the sport seats will change their shape ever so slightly.

To the OP, were the cars you tried of the same vintage?

Originally Posted by larryn

I had a e90 and e82 at the same time for a few months and compared them. They are the same width and have the same 4 mounting points. Also, the electric control are identical.

The leather on the 3er is slightly nicer (better feeling and slightly softer)
The headrest on the 3er telescopes AND tilts (1er only telescopes)
The headrest mounts differ (I tried the e90 headrests in the e82, and the mounting holes on the e82 seats are further forward, making retrofit to 3er headrests not possible)
The stitching on the seats differ, as previously noted.
The back panels on the 3er have netted pockets.. the 1er does not

So, it seems they have the same "guts", but the rest differs slightly.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by FIRST1

So you are confirming sport seats from a 3 series will fit in an e82? Are u speaking from experience? Been trying to find an answer to this. Would it make a difference if I got them from an e92? Looking for powered sport headed seats.

That comment is from four years ago. I dont think youll get an answer.

[Mr Marcus]

I traded a 3 for a 1er a few years ago and I can definitely say the seats are not the same. The 1er seats are thinner and have less rake adjustment, not to mention the back width. I guess the width of the car mandated a difference, it's not to bad but it is noticeable and has nothing to do with the bolsters being adjusted.

[evbecks]

Just a FYI. E92 M3 are direct bolt in for E82 1-series. Plugs and bolt locations require 0 modification.


Evan

[FIRST1]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

That comment is from four years ago. I dont think youll get an answer.

But larryn has 8,000+ posts, and was on at 1:20am last night! Worth a shot

Also tbh I got my hands on sport seats but still on the hunt for a set with heated function.. my backup plan is to switch back to my non-sport heated seats every winter

[swagon]

Originally Posted by evbecks

Just a FYI. E92 M3 are direct bolt in for E82 1-series. Plugs and bolt locations require 0 modification.


Evan

That's awesome. Do you seat any lower or is it the same?

[evbecks]

Originally Posted by swagon

That's awesome. Do you seat any lower or is it the same?

Seems the same. The seats have an adjustable height on them too.

Evan

[swagon]

Originally Posted by evbecks

Seems the same. The seats have an adjustable height on them too.

Evan

I see. I have a problem with the seat position. It's too high and I was thinking that manual seats would be lower (I've read that here on the forums...).

So I guess no coding or any mods had to be done?

[evbecks]

Originally Posted by swagon

I see. I have a problem with the seat position. It's too high and I was thinking that manual seats would be lower (I've read that here on the forums...).

So I guess no coding or any mods had to be done?

Just a reset of the airbag lights

Evan

[swagon]

Originally Posted by evbecks

Just a reset of the airbag lights

Evan

Thank you for the info.

[larryn]

Originally Posted by FIRST1

But larryn has 8,000+ posts, and was on at 1:20am last night! Worth a shot

Also tbh I got my hands on sport seats but still on the hunt for a set with heated function.. my backup plan is to switch back to my non-sport heated seats every winter

I never actually bolted the seats from one car to the other, but did measure the 4 mounting holes, and they are the same. I did this back in 2007, when I had both cars. The E90 was a 2006 and the E82 was a 2008. I do not know if the electrical connections are the same though, but I would wager they are the same.

I am mainly on the M3 boards now but do check in occasionally... looking into getting into a GT3 these days, and prob will still stop by. :-)

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by evbecks

Just a FYI. E92 M3 are direct bolt in for E82 1-series. Plugs and bolt locations require 0 modification.


Evan

Did you weigh them to see difference?
Love the seats regardless

EDIT:
m3 - ~62 lbs ( unkown spec); 135i - ~54lbs Manual

[matmanx1]

If I could find a manual pair of coral red sport seats for my new 128i I would probably spring for them. I think that is the one upgrade that I would really like to do. Time to keep my eyes open.

[128Styll]

So I could throw a set of heated sport e92 m3 seats in a 2012 128i then right??

[golfer23rm]

are the headrests interchangeable?
reason i am asking as the 1s sports seats are fixed, and i find a bit hard.
would be nice to have them to be able to move forward and have a bit more cushion.
sometime you want to drive and not have your head bouncing off the darn headrest.

[mfindigital]

Originally Posted by 128Styll

So I could throw a set of heated sport e92 m3 seats in a 2012 128i then right??

Yes. The e92 seats fit, and I hear the e90 seats fit as well. I'm shopping for either M3 seats of sports seats for an e8X e9x right now.

[Dalecan]

The seats in the 3 series also have an active headrest restraint (airbag mechanism), were the headrest is pushed forward during a collision. The 1 series seats don’t have this.