Where do people buy their track pads?

[Klepper1]

I am looking to pick up some dedicated track pads for my wife's 135is. She has a track event in 2 weeks. I am looking to get some Pagid RS-29's or some DTC-60 or DTC-70's.

Can anyone recomend an online retailer with good pricing and fairly fast delivery?

Thanks

[hoki06]

ogracing.com

brakeswap.com

I buy my Hawk pads from either of those places

[z3papa]

raceshopper.com

[Klepper1]

Thanks for the suggestions! I bought some DTC-70's from brakeswap.com

[hoki06]

Originally Posted by Klepper1

Thanks for the suggestions! I bought some DTC-70's from brakeswap.com

[PrematureApex]

knsbrakes.com

[02rsxpilot]

Really like that KNS site. Much more user-friendly than most brake/auto parts websites.

Anyone able to comment on if the Hawk DTC-70 is worth the extra $35-40 compared to the HT-10? Just for weekend track use. Looking to pick something up before next event in May. OEM pads hold up remarkably well and don't fade, but also provide little to no braking in the first few inches of pedal travel (due to material compression, not air in the brake lines). Looking for more immediacy.

[Ginger_Extract]

Originally Posted by 02rsxpilot

Really like that KNS site. Much more user-friendly than most brake/auto parts websites.

Anyone able to comment on if the Hawk DTC-70 is worth the extra $35-40 compared to the HT-10? Just for weekend track use. Looking to pick something up before next event in May. OEM pads hold up remarkably well and don't fade, but also provide little to no braking in the first few inches of pedal travel (due to material compression, not air in the brake lines). Looking for more immediacy.

I'm running DTC70/60, first event with them was this past weekend. Stopping power was prodigious, definitely more than enough to overwhelm my 255 Hankooks if not careful. Had to readjust my concept of braking coming from street pads, as I was way overslowing for corners.

Your description of OEM pads sounds VERY atypical for any OEM BMW pads, which usually have pretty awesome initial bite, but fade badly once you pick up the pace beyond parade laps. Are your pads super worn? If not, I think there may be issue elsewhere...

[02rsxpilot]

Originally Posted by Ginger_Extract

Your description of OEM pads sounds VERY atypical for any OEM BMW pads, which usually have pretty awesome initial bite, but fade badly once you pick up the pace beyond parade laps. Are your pads super worn? If not, I think there may be issue elsewhere...

Well, a couple qualifiers and will try to not to let my question drive the thread too off-topic: 1) I came from a momentum car, so my habits are quite a bit nicer on the brakes than many, which helps with temps and any fade issues. I may brake earlier than optimal, but I brake less overall, which in a dual purpose car is an okay compromise for me. 2) I haven't been back to Laguna Seca since getting the 1-er yet, and that's the track I've had the most issue with brake pads on before due to the Andretti Hairpin.

I've bled my brakes on my own and had the best shop in town do them, and neither improved brake response, more than fractionally. Like I said before, I can depress the brake pedal an inch or so and feel almost no slowing (street and track), but when I get hard on it the stopping power is very good. I prefer having more modulation earlier in the pedal though.

I'm due for a free service on the car prior to my next event and plan on asking them to check my brakes while they're at it, but from my inspections they look to still have lots of meat left and I don't think they'll be replacing them.

[Ginger_Extract]

Originally Posted by 02rsxpilot

Well, a couple qualifiers and will try to not to let my question drive the thread too off-topic: 1) I came from a momentum car, so my habits are quite a bit nicer on the brakes than many, which helps with temps and any fade issues. I may brake earlier than optimal, but I brake less overall, which in a dual purpose car is an okay compromise for me. 2) I haven't been back to Laguna Seca since getting the 1-er yet, and that's the track I've had the most issue with brake pads on before due to the Andretti Hairpin.

I've bled my brakes on my own and had the best shop in town do them, and neither improved brake response, more than fractionally. Like I said before, I can depress the brake pedal an inch or so and feel almost no slowing (street and track), but when I get hard on it the stopping power is very good. I prefer having more modulation earlier in the pedal though.

I'm due for a free service on the car prior to my next event and plan on asking them to check my brakes while they're at it, but from my inspections they look to still have lots of meat left and I don't think they'll be replacing them.

Curious indeed, but it sounds like you know your stuff, so I'll take your word for it.
My comments on the Hawk's still stand, they are bitchin'! Actually very quiet pads, but dust like crazy. Bedding them in was a laugh and a half. I won't incriminate myself, but it you feel so inclined, you can PM me for more opinions and details on the Hawks.

[Kgolf31]

I'm a pretty big fan on PFC pads.

Don't we share identical calipers with the 328?

[Focusedintntions]

I have a guy that I go to for pads to get the at cost. I've used hawks, pagids, cool carbons, oem, and just about any other race spec pad I could find for the 135. My favorites are def the hawks. I love the torque they have and the easy modulation they promote. Dusting is an issue with them, as is longevity. The performance also really falls off after 3/4 pad is gone. But considering they are so "cheap" as compared to the pagids and pfc's, it's worth it in the long run. The pagid rs29's and 19's take considerable more pedal effort get the car hauled down, but they do last longer, and are kinder to rotors.

Sorry if this seems jumbled, i'm typing it all before my morning coffee. Just trying to share my $.02. Been tracking my 135 for 3 years now

[Focusedintntions]

Also...get some brake ducting asap...front and rear!

[02rsxpilot]

Thanks all. Sounds like, as it usually is with brake pads, a little trial and error is in store. I'll probably order some DTC70s before my LS date in June and we'll see if it makes any difference on my pedal.

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by Klepper1

I am looking to pick up some dedicated track pads for my wife's 135is. She has a track event in 2 weeks. I am looking to get some Pagid RS-29's or some DTC-60 or DTC-70's.

Can anyone recomend an online retailer with good pricing and fairly fast delivery?

Thanks

If you get pagid rs-29s, you must bed them in according to weird procedure that Pagid recommends. Otherwise they will be useless.
Stay away from HT-10s, they crumbled after 1 track weekend for me, but i am pushing hard, and it was very hot that day.
I like DTC-70/60 combo the most out of whats available for 135i.
Your wife tracks the car with you? Very nice. You are a lucky man my friend. I wish my wife did the same

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

I have a guy that I go to for pads to get the at cost. I've used hawks, pagids, cool carbons, oem, and just about any other race spec pad I could find for the 135. My favorites are def the hawks. I love the torque they have and the easy modulation they promote. Dusting is an issue with them, as is longevity. The performance also really falls off after 3/4 pad is gone. But considering they are so "cheap" as compared to the pagids and pfc's, it's worth it in the long run. The pagid rs29's and 19's take considerable more pedal effort get the car hauled down, but they do last longer, and are kinder to rotors.

Sorry if this seems jumbled, i'm typing it all before my morning coffee. Just trying to share my $.02. Been tracking my 135 for 3 years now

I wish PFC would make pads for the 135i caliper. Been waiting for a long time for that to to happen, but PFC are not in a hurry. What the heck, the 135i has only been out for 7 years, and is now out of production.

Im lining up for DTC-60 pads for my 2014 lapping season with my dual duty 135i.

Have you tried or heard feedback from users of the Carbotech's XP8, or XP10 compounds? I wonder how they compare to Hawks in terms of feal, endurance, noise level, and price point...

[Focusedintntions]

Originally Posted by dcaron9999

I wish PFC would make pads for the 135i caliper. Been waiting for a long time for that to to happen, but PFC are not in a hurry. What the heck, the 135i has only been out for 7 years, and is now out of production.

Im lining up for DTC-60 pads for my 2014 lapping season with my dual duty 135i.

Have you tried or heard feedback from users of the Carbotech's XP8, or XP10 compounds? I wonder how they compare to Hawks or Carbotechs in terms of feal, endurance, noise level, and price point...

You'll want to run dtc 70's up front and 60's in the rear FYI.

I've not heard anything about the carbotech's first hand on the 135. People aht use them love them though. They are expensive as well too. From what I understand though, carbotechs need their own set of rotors, they do well with pad swapping. Hawks on the other hand don't care. In fact if you put them on before you drive to the track, then drive there. They'll actually resurface your rotor and give you a clean surface for the start of your sessions.

[Ginger_Extract]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

Also...get some brake ducting asap...front and rear!

Have you found an effective solution for the E82? I've been looking for solutions, and it's pretty scarce...

[Focusedintntions]

No pre-made kits that are worth buying. The couple i did see where over $600....ended up just running some hose and sorta doctoring it up. Wasn't pretty but it helped. And before you ask, sorry, no pics of how i did it.

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

You'll want to run dtc 70's up front and 60's in the rear FYI...

Why not 60's or 70's on all fours?

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

Hawks on the other hand don't care. In fact if you put them on before you drive to the track, then drive there. They'll actually resurface your rotor and give you a clean surface for the start of your sessions.

Good to know! So the same rotors can be used, while I alternate from street to track pads?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by z3papa

raceshopper.com

More Z3 guys on the E90 forums.

[Ginger_Extract]

Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Why not 60's or 70's on all fours?


Good to know! So the same rotors can be used, while I alternate from street to track pads?

Because they don't make DTC70 in a rear fitment. 70/60 is the de-facto for heavy cars running Hawk pads. I have dedicated front rotors for the Hawks, but use the same rotors in the rear. But, yes, you use the same rotors because when cold the Hawks are quite abrasive and will clean the rotor surface as you drive along. Just make sure to do some sort of bed-in process before hitting the track.