splash shield mod for brake cooling (pics & results)

dsm 335xi · 05-13-2011, 04:43 AM

Have you guys looked at these?

http://store.bimmerworld.com/carbon-...tes-p1412.aspx

DriveHard · 05-13-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dsm 335i

Have you guys look at these?

http://store.bimmerworld.com/carbon-...tes-p1412.aspx

YES. But thanks for posting.. Ive seen alot of the same idea ofcourse.

The thing is all the ones commercially available are to be used with 3" hoses wrapping around your suspension and requiring cutting of wheel well to get to duct to the front grill opening.

The idea here is to be able to have a Daily driver answer that will make our weekend track days better for our brakes... Its a compromise, but I think after a little more work it will reap very good benefits for us Time Trialers / HPDE / club Event weekend warriors..

Lubo · 05-13-2011, 07:24 AM

^^ I've hard time believing that it'll work with e90 chasis and 135 brakes as well. Another thing is do you really want to spend $400 on that. Pixel's and DriveHard's solutions is a lot less expensive, and probably just as efficient...

pixelblue · 05-13-2011, 07:33 AM

^ hell mine doesn't even cost anything

xerox445 · 05-18-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pixelblue

^ hell mine doesn't even cost anything

Blood, sweat, and tears.

On the idea!

I ordered the aluminum flanges from aircraft spruce, and im goingto use a hole saw to cut a hole in the stock heatshield, rivet them to the back, and hopefully figure out a good way to route the hose to utilize the lower air ducts in the front bumper. I will be sure to do a write up for the project!

jeremydgreat · 05-18-2011, 12:52 AM

Best. Thread. EVAR.

pixelblue · 05-18-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xerox445

Blood, sweat, and tears.

On the idea!

I ordered the aluminum flanges from aircraft spruce, and im goingto use a hole saw to cut a hole in the stock heatshield, rivet them to the back, and hopefully figure out a good way to route the hose to utilize the lower air ducts in the front bumper. I will be sure to do a write up for the project!

you may want to take a look at this. may come handy while your are fabricating your piece.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...ht=brake+ducts

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Originally Posted by jeremydgreat

Best. Thread. EVAR.

you would think there would be more interest considering how many people track their cars here. either way, this mod could really be the difference in making some dual purpose brake pads like cool carbon, ferrodo or hawk survive a track event with little fading

GaryS · 05-19-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelblue

you would think there would be more interest considering how many people track their cars here.

Okay, I will bend my shields too. I've been planning it since Harold mentioned the idea in November.

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

One way to get more air to the rotors is too bend the backing plate towards the car so it would scoop more air. It's a free upgrade.

The other is through the use of better rotor design with better cooing vanes and hat design that allows more air flow, both of which are possible with a 2-piece rotor. If there isn't a 2 piece rotor for the 1, there will be one very soon, for both the front and rear of the vehicle.

Unfortunately, the RacingBrake 2 piece rotors are apparently not coming for 135i, after the 3 series rotors didn't sell.

Focusedintntions · 05-19-2011, 03:09 PM

boo at that

pixelblue · 05-19-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryS

Okay, I will bend my shields too. I've been planning it since Harold mentioned the idea in November.

Unfortunately, the RacingBrake 2 piece rotors are apparently not coming for 135i, after the 3 series rotors didn't sell.

bending alone won't do much. you need to cut the shields and then bend them. take a look at the pictures at the beginning

dsm 335xi · 08-30-2011, 07:37 AM

Any updates? I had my brakes smoking this past weekend at MPH. I am running DTC 70/60 with ti shims and new brake fluid. I did not have time to modify my dust shields.

pixelblue · 08-30-2011, 09:42 AM

^ it's no a brainer mod. you will get some extra air/cooling in there so there is no down side. haven't noticed much fade with my cool carbons since this mod.

icabod7 · 02-07-2012, 07:06 PM

Drivehard, any update on your prototype?

HP Autosport · 02-12-2012, 04:30 PM

We have done this to our project 135i simply by bending the splash shield inward. By making a cut you will get the shield further into the air flow for more cooling air.

Dackelone · 02-13-2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DriveHard

The thing is all the ones commercially available are to be used with 3" hoses wrapping around your suspension and requiring cutting of wheel well to get to duct to the front grill opening.

The idea here is to be able to have a Daily driver answer that will make our weekend track days better for our brakes... Its a compromise, but I think after a little more work it will reap very good benefits for us Time Trialers / HPDE / club Event weekend warriors..

Nice work! This kind of reminds me of some of the Porsche 944 cooling brake kits out there for track cars...

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chachacha28 · 02-13-2012, 02:45 AM

thats legit. I gotta try this!

Dackelone · 02-15-2012, 10:42 AM

Looks like BMW is using PixelBlue and DriveHard 's idea of bending the splash shield outwards on the new F30. As seen in this thread...

Close Look at F30 328i Suspension by Insideline!
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648418

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I wonder IF those F30 splach shields would bolt up to our 1er's!?

pixelblue · 02-15-2012, 11:07 AM

^ how funny! good thing bmw with all of their resources still need us enthusiasts for thinking outside the box

DriveHard · 02-15-2012, 11:50 AM

wow..i wonder if they fit our spindels ???

Kori, do we get a new f30 because of this ???? LOL

JB135MDCT · 02-15-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelblue

^ how funny! good thing bmw with all of their resources still need us enthusiasts for thinking outside the box

You you should be getting some royalties or a 1M for this invention.

pixelblue · 02-15-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveHard

wow..i wonder if they fit our spindels ???

Kori, do we get a new f30 because of this ???? LOL

we should definitely find if it fits ours but hell NO am I changing to that ugly thing called an f30

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Originally Posted by JB135MDCT

You you should be getting some royalties or a 1M for this invention.

I'll take royalties first, thank you

DriveHard · 02-15-2012, 03:15 PM

Spindle is different part number

but that doesnt mean that the splash guard doesnt have the holes drilled in the same space / or the reliefs needed in the same place.

im gonna order a splash guard for a f30 335 and match it to the "spares" that line my garage bench and see if they will be a good bolt on ...LOL

the Scoops that BMW have now formed into them should play extremely well into out brake cooling needs.

ill let you guys know when i get it

and kori ill gladly share in the royalties..

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dsm 335xi Private 5 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Have you guys looked at these? http://store.bimmerworld.com/carbon-...tes-p1412.aspx Last edited by dsm 335xi; 05-13-2011 at 07:44 AM..
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05-13-2011, 07:24 AM	#25
Lubo Lieutenant 23 Rep 475 Posts Drives: 15 335 iX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (1)	^^ I've hard time believing that it'll work with e90 chasis and 135 brakes as well. Another thing is do you really want to spend $400 on that. Pixel's and DriveHard's solutions is a lot less expensive, and probably just as efficient...
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05-13-2011, 07:33 AM	#26
pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	^ hell mine doesn't even cost anything __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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05-18-2011, 12:52 AM	#28
jeremydgreat Captain 76 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA (Carlsbad to be exact) iTrader: (1)	Best. Thread. EVAR. __________________ 135i // M-Sports Package // RR Oil Catch Can // Black Kidneys // iCarbon Hood // Alum Pedals // KW v2 Coilovers // Vorshlag Camber Plates // Hotchkis Sway Bar // Wheel Studs. Best mod ever? Tires. 255's in front, 275's in back.
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05-19-2011, 03:09 PM	#31
Focusedintntions Colonel 105 Rep 2,696 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M-Sport :D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NoVA iTrader: (1)	boo at that __________________ Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death… – Hunter Thompson
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08-30-2011, 07:37 AM	#33
dsm 335xi Private 5 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Any updates? I had my brakes smoking this past weekend at MPH. I am running DTC 70/60 with ti shims and new brake fluid. I did not have time to modify my dust shields.
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08-30-2011, 09:42 AM	#34
pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	^ it's no a brainer mod. you will get some extra air/cooling in there so there is no down side. haven't noticed much fade with my cool carbons since this mod. __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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icabod7 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 254 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dallas iTrader: (0)	Drivehard, any update on your prototype? __________________ cdv delete \| clutch stop \| bmw performance ssk \| meisterschaft gt \| berk mids \| dinan cai \| helix fmic \| m3 subframe bushings, swaybar, front and back suspension bits \| dinan stage 1 suspension \| dinan cf strut brace \|gc camber plates \| dinan oil cooler \| apex ec-7s w/PSSs \| cobb stage 1 + fmic
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02-12-2012, 04:30 PM	#36
HP Autosport Supreme Allied Commander 3837 Rep 54,338 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AP, Brembo, GIAC, Koni, Ohlins, Performance Friction, www.hpautosport.com iTrader: (36)	We have done this to our project 135i simply by bending the splash shield inward. By making a cut you will get the shield further into the air flow for more cooling air.
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02-13-2012, 02:45 AM	#38
chachacha28 NCOIC of Kickin It 78 Rep 946 Posts Drives: 08 135i "Simona" Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Great Falls MT iTrader: (1)	thats legit. I gotta try this!
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02-15-2012, 10:42 AM	#39
Dackelone European Editor 10532 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	Looks like BMW is using PixelBlue and DriveHard 's idea of bending the splash shield outwards on the new F30. As seen in this thread... Close Look at F30 328i Suspension by Insideline! http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648418 I wonder IF those F30 splach shields would bolt up to our 1er's!?
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02-15-2012, 11:07 AM	#40
pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	^ how funny! good thing bmw with all of their resources still need us enthusiasts for thinking outside the box __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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02-15-2012, 11:50 AM	#41
DriveHard Colonel 115 Rep 1,998 Posts Drives: X1 and R58 JCW Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Island iTrader: (0)	wow..i wonder if they fit our spindels ??? Kori, do we get a new f30 because of this ???? LOL __________________ X1, R58 JCW, M2 in my future if planets align
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02-15-2012, 03:15 PM	#44
DriveHard Colonel 115 Rep 1,998 Posts Drives: X1 and R58 JCW Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Island iTrader: (0)	Spindle is different part number but that doesnt mean that the splash guard doesnt have the holes drilled in the same space / or the reliefs needed in the same place. im gonna order a splash guard for a f30 335 and match it to the "spares" that line my garage bench and see if they will be a good bolt on ...LOL the Scoops that BMW have now formed into them should play extremely well into out brake cooling needs. ill let you guys know when i get it and kori ill gladly share in the royalties.. __________________ X1, R58 JCW, M2 in my future if planets align
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