[KC Bimmer]

For 50k, I'd keep the same choice I made last Sept. Buy an E90 and pocket the remaining 10k!

[younghov85]

Originally Posted by KC Bimmer

For 50k, I'd keep the same choice I made last Sept. Buy an E90 and pocket the remaining 10k!

very smart thinking. I still want the new Camaro regardless.

[3aficionado]

Originally Posted by E394KEN

Thats when I heard there would be a E92 Saloon that got me a little excited. We could have a four door and a little performance to boot.

I understand what you are trying to say here. But FYI, the e90 is the saloon/sedan and the e92 is the coupe. There is no such thing as an e92 saloon. There is an e92 335 (topic of this thread) and there will be an e90 335 (sedan twin turbo).

Originally Posted by Garissimo

Anyways, I just don't see the point of comparing the 3 series to Vettes/Boxters/Caymans of the world. When those cars can seat 4 normal sized adults, get back to me.

How often do BMW coupe owners ever have more than 2 people in their cars? I can count on one hand how many times I've had backseat passengers in my coupe. I think these are fair comparisons since we are talking 50k price range for a coupe. After all this is a thread about what ‘Better car than the e92 for 50k’.

The 335 is a regular 3 series (non M). As such it can be a great mix of luxury and sport coupe for the money. The other cars are more bare bones sports cars for the money. A well equipped e92 335 (which is what would bring the price up to 50k) is a more refined sports experience and everyday driver. I wouldn’t want to drive a Boxter or Lotus everyday.

[Asiann]

Originally Posted by ksfrogman

The car insurance is the deal-breaker there. Plus you don't get 4 seats and a concealed trunk with the Corvette.

I think if you are worried about the insurance then you shouldn't buy either car. Better to have 2 people seated comfortable than 4 people crammed into the 335.

[Josh49]

It's what you define a "better" car as. For some, (who drive this 50K car in question solely on the weekend, track, and autocross), performace is more important. For others (myself included) who drive this on a daily basis, "better" is a well-performing luxury car. There are people who want a 50K for the weekends and track who do not care about the everyday driveability and useability of the 3 series that the rest of us demand. Bare sport is what these people want. It all depends on what you want in this car, and what you want the car for.

If you are looking for a pure sports car, for 50K, there are cars out there which will out-perform the e92 335.

[Garissimo]

Originally Posted by 3aficionado

How often do BMW coupe owners ever have more than 2 people in their cars?

It probably varies greatly from owner to owner.

Originally Posted by 3aficionado

I can count on one hand how many times I've had backseat passengers in my coupe. I think these are fair comparisons since we are talking 50k price range for a coupe. After all this is a thread about what ‘Better car than the e92 for 50k’.

BMW went out of their way to make the rear accomodations amenable to adults. I would think anyone seriously considering the 335i (coupe) would want to make use of them.

Originally Posted by 3aficionado

The 335 is a regular 3 series (non M). As such it can be a great mix of luxury and sport coupe for the money. The other cars are more bare bones sports cars for the money. A well equipped e92 335 (which is what would bring the price up to 50k) is a more refined sports experience and everyday driver. I wouldn’t want to drive a Boxter or Lotus everyday.

You just made my point, very eloquently.

I just don't see a lot of people "cross shopping" the 335i with the Corvette/Cayman, etc.

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by Garissimo

It probably varies greatly from owner to owner.



BMW went out of their way to make the rear accomodations amenable to adults. I would think anyone seriously considering the 335i (coupe) would want to make use of them.



You just made my point, very eloquently.

I just don't see a lot of people "cross shopping" the 335i with the Corvette/Cayman, etc.

What other true 4-seater coupe is there in the NA market, with 300hp/300lbs.ft torque and with the panache and styling offered by the 335i ? And at a projected price with numerous options of approx. $50,000 ? You lucky folks who live in the USA forget that whatever the final price is on a new BMW, you will be paying the cheapest price anywhere in the world. Compare the prices paid in the UK,Germany,Ireland, Hong Kong or Canada - then you will understand what a good deal you are getting by reason of the hotly competitive US market.
In my view, BMW will have no problem selling the 335i coupe - the problem will be world wide supply to meet the demand.

[Garissimo]

Originally Posted by DerekS

What other true 4-seater coupe is there in the NA market, with 300hp/300lbs.ft torque and with the panache and styling offered by the 335i ?

I'm still hoping it comes closer to $45K than $50K but I don't want to start another price debate.

I think if refinment and fit and finish are at all important to you, the only competition is the G35, IS350, and the Audi S4. The S4 is of course a 4 door but it has very handsome Teutonic styling and an interior that's spot on.

BTW, I love B.C. Will be road tripping up there on the 24th of June. Also, I made the trip from B.C. to Portland in about 5 hours (including the border cross) in my M5 in April.

[Macfreak7]

Shouldn't the Evo or the STI be considered for well below 50k as well? Obviously these would be for zero luxury and performance only.

Personally I think 50k is a tad too much for a non-M.

[RGRAY]

[QUOTE=KC Bimmer]For 50k, I'd keep the same choice I made last Sept. Buy an E90 and pocket the remaining 10k![/QUOTE

What he said and pocket the extra $6,340.

I'm very happy with my car.

[nyyankee]

Im never going to spend upwards of 40k on a 3 series.....
If i'm going to spend at least 50k i'll throw in 6 grand more and get myself:

in that exact color

or:


both cars are gorgeous and well worth their $$$ imo

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by nyyankee

Im never going to spend upwards of 40k on a 3 series.....
If i'm going to spend at least 50k i'll throw in 6 grand more and get myself:

in that exact color

or:


both cars are gorgeous and well worth their $$$ imo

I agree, however, they don't have the practicality and many of the luxury amenities that the e92 offers. I mean, yeah it is an option but having 4 seats is important to a lot of people. However, if you have the e92 as a second car and a more practical car as your primary, then it's a different story.

[ward]

Originally Posted by nyyankee

Im never going to spend upwards of 40k on a 3 series.....
If i'm going to spend at least 50k i'll throw in 6 grand more and get myself:

in that exact color

I hope that's not the 3000 blue, because those are for sure the 3000 wheels


don't get me wrong, I want a Cayman S too, badly, but to option that car to the level I want it would mean a 65-68 grand sticker price

[RaptorKTM]

dude look at some reviews on the cayman. Most people say its the biggest piece of shit ever. I mean go test drive one ull hate it. at least i did.

[nyyankee]

Originally Posted by Nikki

I agree, however, they don't have the practicality and many of the luxury amenities that the e92 offers. I mean, yeah it is an option but having 4 seats is important to a lot of people. However, if you have the e92 as a second car and a more practical car as your primary, then it's a different story.

Ya well their practical for me, I never use my backseat or trunk. I really dont need a sedan, infact I would have gotten the e92 if it was avaible at the time.

[nyyankee]

Originally Posted by socalm3

dude look at some reviews on the cayman. Most people say its the biggest piece of shit ever. I mean go test drive one ull hate it. at least i did.

I've only read praises about the car....the only bad thing that i've herd is that Porsche is holding it back so that it won't outperform the 911. Other than that its a great car....from what i've read.

Don't you worry, i'll test drive it plenty of times before I buy one.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by nyyankee

Ya well their practical for me, I never use my backseat or trunk. I really dont need a sedan, infact I would have gotten the e92 if it was avaible at the time.

I'd get one if I didn't have two dogs and it were the same price as an e90. Hell, I even named my kitty cat Cayman.

[picus]

It's hard to compare cars like the Lotus Elise and Cayman S to a 335i. I personally think the 335i will be worth every penny, not only from a performance standpoint but from a *life* stadpoint. It's a roomy 2+2 that will be sporty, but not stiff or harsh, it'll have a trunk, the tranny will be aggressive, but not notchy or unforgiving, it'll have a nice plush interior while remaining "young and hip", whatever that means. Sure, if you don't have kids, or don't haul anything ever, grab a Lotus, or a Cayman S, or a 'vette, all great cars; but sometimes practically rears it's ugly head and compromises have to be made. For me, I need to carry around a pretty sizable amount of stuff each day, so I need a real trunk; that means cars like the Elise, Cayman S, vette etc.. are out. We're a one car family, so the 335i's of the world are a great choice.

[nyyankee]

Originally Posted by ward

I hope that's not the 3000 blue, because those are for sure the 3000 wheels


don't get me wrong, I want a Cayman S too, badly, but to option that car to the level I want it would mean a 65-68 grand sticker price

I hope your not betting money on that

Its still more than what I said but less than 65-68.....but I see your point
By the way $3,070 is stupid crazy for "specal Metallic paint"
besides that car looks hott in any color.

[Traceaz]

Originally Posted by ward

don't get me wrong, I want a Cayman S too, badly, but to option that car to the level I want it would mean a 65-68 grand sticker price

I completely agree. The Cayman S is sweet, but EVERYTHING is an option on a Porsche. It can easily reach mid to upper 60's to low to mid 70's nicely decked out. I'd love a Cayman S, but just not enough included in the base price on it, I'm surprised having a steering wheel isnt an option! :P

I think for a good mix of BOTH performance sport car, as well as luxury, for the 50k level, the closest competitor to the E92 335i would be the Infiniti M45 Sport. Personally I really don't want a sedan, but if I did, I would give the M45 a serious look. 2nd place competitor for performance and luxury combo for 50k is the Audi S4. After that, who knows. Maybe a C55 AMG? That would likely go 4-8k over though. Anyway, my suggestions were based on both a strong combo of performance AND luxury. If you wanted something heavily on one side or heavily on the other side for 50k, there are probably other options.

[ward]

you probably forgot pasm or bose sound or sport seats or xenons


what's up with the crackhead that thinks that car has any chance of sucking????

He probably thinks his 330 is the best car on the road, and he'd be wrong

[nyyankee]

Originally Posted by ward

what's up with the crackhead that thinks that car has any chance of sucking????

He probably thinks his 330 is the best car on the road, and he'd be wrong