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      05-17-2013, 09:15 PM   #67
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That's the one evolve can't tune yet, and I assume AA as well.
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      05-17-2013, 09:50 PM   #68
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That's the one evolve can't tune yet, and I assume AA as well.
What do you mean? What's the difference?
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Is this the right manifold? I see the two DISA units, but for some reason this thing looks different from the others I've seen. What are those orange wires? Is for the oil separator that comes off anyway? Are there supposed to be wires coming out of the DISA units? Incidentally, the 11-digit p/n listed on the sticker makes no sense; RealOEM can't find it as either a US or Euro p/n. On the plus side, it does say "N52 B30 OL," which is the designation for the high output N52. Supposedly this came off of a wrecked
2006 328i N51.
Yes correct manifold. All DISA are attached.
Orange wires are to be detached they are just bad cuts by wrecker, re-use your sensors in all cases

Evolve cannot yet tune n51 engine, the manifold is a manifold
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Yes correct manifold. All DISA are attached.
Orange wires are to be detached they are just bad cuts by wrecker, re-use your sensors in all cases

Evolve cannot tune n51 engine, the manifold is a manifold
Thanks for the confirmation. Yeah, I thought that there was only one version of the manifold that was in a bunch of different N51/52 vehicles (originally the 2006 330i, at least in the US).

I may go ahead and pull the trigger on this one, or may try to find a newer one, or a better deal. I don't know - I'm not really crazy about buying used parts, but I also don't want to spend $1100 on the Tischer kit...in any case, this one doesn't seem to have the plastic cover (the part that says "BMW"). That can just be removed from my stock manifold & switched over, yeah?
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this one doesn't seem to have the plastic cover (the part that says "BMW"). That can just be removed from my stock manifold & switched over, yeah?
yes, direct fit. you will need to transfer rubber mounting pieces into the zig zag style grooves from original manifold
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Yes correct manifold. All DISA are attached.
Orange wires are to be detached they are just bad cuts by wrecker, re-use your sensors in all cases

Evolve cannot tune n51 engine, the manifold is a manifold
I agree the manifold is just that, but I would confirm with them that the modules aren't different.
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      05-18-2013, 10:11 AM   #73
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check if real oem uses the same DISA box part numbers across the range. I thought they did..
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      05-18-2013, 11:24 AM   #74
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So, got some more info about the donor vehicle for the manifold I posted above. Car was actually a 2007 328xi N51 w/ almost 104,000 miles on the odo. I don't really have a good feeling taking a part from such a high mileage donor vehicle for transplant into my 24,000 mile car. Is my concern misplaced? I mean, the manifold itself is just molded thermoplastic, which should be pretty indestructible, but I wonder about the DISA units. Anyone have any insight into this?
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I don't really have a good feeling taking a part from such a high mileage donor vehicle for transplant into my 24,000 mile car. Is my concern misplaced?
I wonder about the DISA units.
Your concern is valid for the Disa boxes. Some 2006 330i's had their Disa boxes replaced on e90post forum. My manifold had oil residue on the inside, i Imagine this causes disa to fail over time combined with wear and tear.
Everything else comes from your car and bolts onto the plastic manifold.

To replace the small disa, you have to take off the manifold. The larger disa is easier to reach on the side of the manifold. I would price out the boxes online or via a salvage yard to see what the cost could be.
Have you used tried to use the Sweedish junker site? They may have disa units only for a fair price and they certainly have manifolds.

carpart.com has some x3 manifolds available, send more emails out
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Agreed completely. DISA units also failed routinely on the e46 gen, prompting a third party kit to build them from metal.
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I'm not familiar with the Swedish sites - wouldn't shipping be pretty outrageous, though?

The lady I'm talking to is now giving me a different VIN, for a wrecked 2011 328i N51 with less than 6,000 miles on it. The stock number matches that same description on car-part.com, I just don't understand what that first VIN she gave me was all about.
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      05-18-2013, 03:09 PM   #78
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Agreed completely. DISA units also failed routinely on the e46 gen, prompting a third party kit to build them from metal.
My understanding is that the N52 DISA's were supposedly ian improved design compared to the M54 versions?
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^^Just get it and be happier with your car! If actuators fail just replace them, however I don't see them failing TBH, I have a 130i, 2006. it is now 7 years old and has no issues at all, although it has very low km, it is at 53K as of now, but regardless... all these years still count. I am a firm believer that time wears out things more than the actual use of them.
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My understanding is that the N52 DISA's were supposedly ian improved design compared to the M54 versions?
Probably, but that was the theory with the E46 subframe over the E36 subframe. The reality was that the entire unibody of the car ripped out on the E46 instead of the subframe cracking on the E36. Thousands of dollars of repairs instead of hundreds.

Only time will tell.
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I hear all this talk about evovle tune. and havent seen a single video of one with the disa manifold and headers with the tune. I need a in car view and dyno to see if I will even consider modding my car. hope someone can help me out
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I only know of one person who has a DISA manifold, headers, and an Evolve tune - and he's made it pretty clear that he's not dynoing until he's done a few more mods. Not sure how helpful an in-car video would be.
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or just look up any 130i that has headers and a tune. Those are pretty easy to find.
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or just look up any 130i that has headers and a tune. Those are pretty easy to find.
Exactly. Go to a UK (so the language is English) 130 forum, find a header/tune car.
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i'll be dynoing soon with the following
disa, eurobox, afe euro dy filter, no secondary cat, evolve tune.

I expect to match AA tune but have a smoother power curve shape
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pretty much what a 130i is except the haeders wchich are different. very interested on what yours do on the rollers as I am still making up my mind about buying the tune.

other difference is the diff ratio, 130i is shorter.
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thanks for the replies, that never crossed my mind. a local guy here in germany keeps telling me to get ESS tune. i havent really heard much about them.
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i'll be dynoing soon with the following
disa, eurobox, afe euro dy filter, no secondary cat, evolve tune.

I expect to match AA tune but have a smoother power curve shape
Still don't understand the secondary delete, I can't imagine you will get much more than 3hp.
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