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      08-06-2011, 01:40 PM   #45
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My daughter is going with me as she wants to see race cars so I'll report back "our" findings later.
Dan, with that picture of your daughter you blew your cover: so YOU are The Stig of Top Gear.
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      08-06-2011, 02:37 PM   #46
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A few pics I took before the sun went down...
Sittin' lovely!
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      08-06-2011, 02:55 PM   #47
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Softer than stock?! That is truly great to hear about the dual character of these shocks.

People often say that there is going to be a lot of compromise when modifying suspensions. Reading your review, it seems like that doesn't really have to be true. It looks like it's possible to get something rather compliant on the street, yet more than competent on the track even for someone who races cars!

Really high end shock designs have this capability. I have briefly driven an E36 M3 with motons... in my experience, AST shocks also provide this sort of adjustability. it's all in the actual damper...
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      08-06-2011, 09:08 PM   #48
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Dan, with that picture of your daughter you blew your cover: so YOU are The Stig of Top Gear.
Nice. Clarkson, Mays, and the Hamster just called to fire me! I wish I were the stig. I have to pay for my tires!

I stiffened things up aggressively at the track and intended on coming home on these settings but it was raining heavily on the mountain and the car was quite loose at the rear end. Mind you, I wasn't pushing it hard either. The DCS light came on 4 or 5 corners in a row with the back end stepping out. I stopped, made some quick adjustments to soften up the back end and the car felt much more neutral in the rain. What really sucks is my street car has better suspension than the race car. That just doesn't seem right!
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      08-06-2011, 09:30 PM   #49
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This is probably the most tempting thread I've ever come across...As you continue to post about the drastic dual characteristics of the Street Sports, it's truly mind boggling and fitting to my interests and goals!

I can't wait to hear back from James and Ryan at Bimmerworld. I sent them an email earlier today, hehe.
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      08-06-2011, 10:11 PM   #50
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So what springs did you match the moton dampers too? Rates?
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We went with the springs that came with the Moton kit (for the E9X M3). They are 350 front and 620 rear. Obviously on the soft side but that is what I want. If I didn't have a dedicated race car (800f/900r) I would have increased the spring rates but I'm trying to keep the car on the street side of things. I'm surprised how stiff the car became with a turn of the dials so I don't expect to change anything.
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^those would be the hypercoil springs correct?
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      08-08-2011, 02:59 PM   #53
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that's great that you're able to run such neutral spring rates. with street tires and good quality damping, you shouldn't need more spring, hopefully.

OT: do you also race in the imsa gt3 cup too or were you just parked by one of the trailers?
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To report back after another 2500 miles all is great with the Motons. I recently drove 5 hours to Alabama for O'Fest and 5+ back (a different way-more fun than route 20 from Atlanta) and the car is very comfortable on all the surfaces I've encountered. I've played around with different settings and find that full soft in front and 2-3 ticks from full soft in the rear feels great on mountain roads. The rear rotates very predictably and if it's wet I switch it to full soft and it's very well behaved. I'm tempted to put some 18's on it with some R compounds and get it back on track soon. The front bumper is very low and I dread hitting something in the road ahead so I'm probably a little conservative when I can't see a good distance ahead. I'm off to VIR next week for the 13 hour enduro so at this rate I'll probably put 20K per year on it. It really is a JOY to drive, pardon the pun.
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The car is on the lift at BimmerWorld with Moton Double Adjustables going on right now. After installation I'm driving over a mountain for 2 hours to race a 24 hour enduro at VIR. The kit looks beautiful and the shop and team are top notch. I'll post a review tonight.
These are the Street Sports from the photos I can see, so it's not really a true double adjustable, but rather the compression is adjusted in conjunction with rebound.
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1 knob - compression
1 knob - rebound
= Double Adjustable

I even doubled checked my math.
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1 knob - compression
1 knob - rebound
= Double Adjustable

I even doubled checked my math.
Great!

These must be the single and double SS before the original Moton went away. I know they had both, but you never know what is available and when they will eventually show up.

With the new Moton the SS will be coming back again but nothing immediate.
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      10-23-2011, 10:32 AM   #58
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Great thread and information. Thanks for the post
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She sitting perfect now let's see some wheels on her
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This thread is kind of like watching a great movie....and then it ends for no reason....where is the rest of the story?
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Dan's engine grenaded and BMW declined warrantying it. Long saga ...
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