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      03-19-2015, 08:29 AM   #1
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 or Pilot Super Sport?

My Bridgestone Potenzas finally need replacing and I'm thinking of replacing them with either Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's or Pilot Super Sport's except I can't make up my mind I've read a bunch of reviews on both and everyone seems to love both. I don't track my car but do like to have some fun once in a while when I'm not stuck in traffic I mean why else would I have bought a 135 I live in Toronto but I obvioulsy use snow tires in the winter and I don't think I could get away from that even with the A/S 3's. Your thoughts and suggestions are much appreciated in advance
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      03-19-2015, 08:43 AM   #2
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If you have snow tires then go PSS hands down. It's less expensive, but will wear faster, regardless its considered one of the best summer tires you wont regret it.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

I'm biased as ive had 4 sets alone over the past 1.5 years on a couple different cars.
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If you have snow tires then go PSS hands down. It's less expensive, but will wear faster, regardless its considered one of the best summer tires you wont regret it.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

I'm biased as ive had 4 sets alone over the past 1.5 years on a couple different cars.
Less expensive? The PSS are actually more expensive then then A/S's here in Canada. How does each tire perform compared to the Bridgestones?
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      03-19-2015, 11:55 AM   #4
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If you use snow tires in winter I'd do the PSS. Nothing bad to say about mine
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Well, one is a summer tire, the other an "all-season". Going to be quite different.

Agreed about the A/S 3, don't even think of trying to use them in snow.
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Just wondering how the A/S 3's compare to the Bridgestone Potenza's in terms of handling and grip.
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I am in the same situation right now, and I have winter tires as I live in Canada.
but I think I will still go with A/S3 as they last longer, 70k KM warranty VS 50k KM.
went through a lot of reviews, both tires are great, but for daily commute, I would say A/S3 is good enough.
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Just wondering how the A/S 3's compare to the Bridgestone Potenza's in terms of handling and grip.
Well, you are comparing a long wearing all season tire to an Ultra High Performance summer tire. The Potenza's will run circles around them.

I used the A/S3's last summer, was pleasantly surprised at the levels of grip and ride. They also wear a hell of a lot better. I did find them quite noisy though. Louder than my winter Hakka R2's.
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Wondering if anyone has anyone used both the A/S 3's and PSS's? Thoughts? I just can't decide LOL. I guess I want something that's comparable to the Potenza's
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I will be in the same predicament once my OE Run flat Bridgestones wear out. How many miles did you get out of the original tires. Mine have just over 15K miles and still have plenty thread. I bought my 2012 135i CPO about 2 months ago with 12K miles and am looking forward to changing the tires once they are worn to something less harsh with good performance. Any thoughts on how the Conti's compare to the Michelins?
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Treat yourself, get the PSS. Since the time is split between the snows and them, they will last a couple seasons. I have driven the same 335xi with Conti DWS's, original Mich A/S's, and Mich PSS's. The PSS way better. No comparison. I roll with PSS on my 1er, and swap with winters. They are hardly worn going into their second season of use.
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I think the 135i is a performance car that can get by in winter with real winter tires. I'd go winter/summer swap with a cheap 17" wheels and good winter tires. Especially in Toronto where you'll have plenty of cold weather (<10C or so where summer tires turn into glass and become dangerous) and snow.

Winter/summer is the best of both worlds. It'll cost you a bit to get started and require some space to store the extra set, but I think it's well worth it. Swapping twice a year is no big deal.

That said, PSS is a good summer tire that due to decent treadwear won't break the bank long term. If you did go AS I'd prefer the Bridgestone 970AS. For winter, there are plenty of good options. Blizzak WS70/WS80 are probably the most hardcore snow tire without going studded. Winterforce 3D or LM-22 are good moderate options if most of your driving is still on fairly well plowed roads and maintain a bit more road feel. I have LM-22 RFT and am happy with them. I've owned previous gen WS60 and they were great which is why I recommend the Blizzak WS70/80.
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I will be in the same predicament once my OE Run flat Bridgestones wear out. How many miles did you get out of the original tires. Mine have just over 15K miles and still have plenty thread. I bought my 2012 135i CPO about 2 months ago with 12K miles and am looking forward to changing the tires once they are worn to something less harsh with good performance. Any thoughts on how the Conti's compare to the Michelins?
I only got about 25-30,000km's out of mine
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I'm in Vancouver and I put on A/S3s last week. The deciding factor for me was the amount of rain we get here. The difference over the rfts is nothing short of amazing. Performance is beyond what I expected from an all season. Grip, handling and no more crashing over potholes wondering if I cracked a rim. They are slightly louder than the oem tires but the ride is so much better that it doesn't matter at all! Now onto sorting out the rsfbs.
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I have the A/S3's and they're great tires, but I only got them because I live somewhere that's slightly too cold and wet in the winter to run summers all year round but not cold or snowy enough to make me want winter tires. If you're going to have a set of winters anyway I think it's a no brainer to get PSS for your non-winter set.
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PSS's. Don't waste your money on anything else.
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      03-26-2015, 08:26 AM   #17
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Just had this dilemma.

Went with the Ac/3s.

As you said they are cheaper than the PSS here and they last longer by all accounts. That's a no brainer for me, despite what others might think.

Unless you track, what's it matter if you get better grip levels. Daily driver I would prefer more life as well as being cheaper out the door.

Just my 2 cents.
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I have PSS for 2 seasons now cant say enough about the lateral grip both dry and wet. I'll squeeze this summer out of them then upgrade to 255s out back.
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The PSS are great in the rain as well despite being a max summer tire. I live in Colorado and run snow tires in the winter and PSS in the summer. We get intense 10 min thunderstorms that flash flood areas all summer and I've never had an issue with the PSS. The only reason not to run them is if the temperature drops below 40F.
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I run PSS year round. We get almost no snow here and I have a SUV to drive if necessary. Traction at lower temperatures (15 degrees is about our minimum here) is still fine. If you are going to have snow tires anyway, I don't see why you'd get all seasons. Personally I would get the all seasons, however, and forget the snow tires. I did that for around 30 years in the snow belt. Worked fine.
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Ordered the PSS April 11 and they're still on back order from Michelin! Originally they said 4-6 weeks, then another 4-6 weeks and now the end of June! Tires are bald so I might have to go with something else...
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