1M or wait for Audi R4 ?

Raine · 11-19-2010, 11:55 AM

I'd totally drive a TT-RS over a 1M (I like Quattro and the styling more) but knowing Audi, the TT-RS will probably be 70k+ in Canada LOL

The 1M should be roughly 56-59k, I can't see it being more expensive than that.

thez99 · 11-19-2010, 08:11 PM

Ick, not looking forward to it if its just gonna be a weak ass 1.4L 4 cyl. Specially looking the way it is on the inside, tiny ass little shifter, no manual shift option..bleh

amdmaxx · 11-19-2010, 10:04 PM

Quattro is just a concept for now, albeit a tasty one (2900lb, 300+hp, 300+torque, Turbo 5...

Sit · 11-19-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thez99

Huh

VW has excellent rep across the board.. I previously owned a MKV GTI for 2 years, excellent little car, has its few issues and obviously not as much power as the 1er but it was a fun as hatchback.

Then you have lucked out, have owned two passats, dealers suck and will rip you off in a heart beat. Tried every dealer in my area, 4, all suck. Both cars had issues with their design that caused items to wear prematurely and both had electrical problems. VW customer service, ahahahahahaahah that's funny. Call them and literally get an attitude of, what do you want us to do, you bought the car. Will never own another water cooled VW.

Raine · 11-19-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sit

Then you have lucked out, have owned two passats, dealers suck and will rip you off in a heart beat. Tried every dealer in my area, 4, all suck. Both cars had issues with their design that caused items to wear prematurely and both had electrical problems. VW customer service, ahahahahahaahah that's funny. Call them and literally get an attitude of, what do you want us to do, you bought the car. Will never own another water cooled VW.

It's not like BMW dealers are any better, they're pretty haught and pretentious and could care less if you bring your car in for service.

Evice · 11-19-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I dont see the teasers showing a slight reveal and announcement of the car coming in just under a months time?
Anyway, the 1M will completely bypass the Audi because it will have been discontinued by the time the Audi is launched by late 2012.

BMW's compact sized Z2 Roadster/Coupe due in 2013 could turn out to be the R4's nemesis?

I'd love to see a Z2 Coupe in prototype. I am thinking it would look like Z4M Coupe with next gen. N52?

thez99 · 11-20-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sit

Then you have lucked out, have owned two passats, dealers suck and will rip you off in a heart beat. Tried every dealer in my area, 4, all suck. Both cars had issues with their design that caused items to wear prematurely and both had electrical problems. VW customer service, ahahahahahaahah that's funny. Call them and literally get an attitude of, what do you want us to do, you bought the car. Will never own another water cooled VW.

Sucks to be you then butch. The majority of the experiences I had with VW were good. Audis and VW both are very respectable cars and companies. Make excellent cars.

plasar · 11-20-2010, 07:11 AM

As long as we are spanking the proverbial monkey, the car I really want is the upcoming VW BlueSport Roadster... Mmm, Mmm, good!

VW BlueSport Roadster

(Sorry, I fixed my iPhone link fails here and below...)

plasar · 11-20-2010, 07:14 AM

VW BlueSport Roadster - Motor Trend You Tube

This guy doesn't do a great presentation... calling VW's Blue effort "Efficient Dynamics"... he's so excited he got his brands mixed up.

Berduderunner · 11-20-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thez99

Huh

VW has excellent rep across the board.. I previously owned a MKV GTI for 2 years, excellent little car, has its few issues and obviously not as much power as the 1er but it was a fun as hatchback.

?
+1

Evice · 11-20-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by plasar

http://www.google.co.za/m/search?oe=UTF-8

Keep trying, you are still linking google.

Sit · 11-20-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine

It's not like BMW dealers are any better, they're pretty haught and pretentious and could care less if you bring your car in for service.

I don't know about that, our 1 has only been back one time in the 6 months we have had it. The last VW we had was back in 3 times in 6 months, one time for 30 days. Never did they call us to update us about any of the repairs. Kuni BMW let us check the car in two days early (on a weekend) and gave us a loaner to use. After doing the seat belt campaign they found the tail light issue was ocurring on our car, we had not noticed it, and replaced both assemblies and some modules (?) that apparently were affected. They also tracked down two minor rattles we had mentioned and fixed them. They ended up having the car for three actual repair days, 5 days counting the weekend we dropped it off. Every work day we received updates as to the status. We did not have to call ourselves and they called early in the day so we could plan our day. I was nothing but impressed with the service we received and the condition of our car when we got it back, washed and vacuumed. Never had VW treat us like this. Our private VW mechanic did, but not the dealer.

thez99 · 11-20-2010, 10:42 PM

Honestly this whole argument about BMW over VW/Audi is bullshit...

Every car has its own goddamn problems and maybe some dont. I had my GTI for 2 years and drove it well, only ever had 2 problems, both were fixed immediately with no issue. Ive had my 135 for almost a year, not one single issue yet (knock on wood) and both dealers are and were nice and helpful. Some others may have the same exact car but due to the shityness of fate and chance, their car decides to fuck off on them constantly which coincides with their dealer being a bunch of asshats. That's just the way it works fellas, so calm down with this "who's better than who" shit and keep this thread on topic about which car that's not even out yet we would rather blow our money on!

footie · 11-21-2010, 08:11 AM

It's absurd to think BMW is better than VAG or the other way round, cars are made up of thousands of parts and sometimes they fail, what happens next is all down to the dealer, a piss poor dealer will make or break the experience of owning any car.

You clearly had a good BMW dealer and a bad VW one but don't think this is true of all, on either side.

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Raine Captain 44 Rep 841 Posts Drives: '11 E82, '04 E60 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (3)	I'd totally drive a TT-RS over a 1M (I like Quattro and the styling more) but knowing Audi, the TT-RS will probably be 70k+ in Canada LOL The 1M should be roughly 56-59k, I can't see it being more expensive than that.
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thez99 Colonel 153 Rep 2,757 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi A4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arden, NC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2013 BMW 135i [0.00]	Ick, not looking forward to it if its just gonna be a weak ass 1.4L 4 cyl. Specially looking the way it is on the inside, tiny ass little shifter, no manual shift option..bleh
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plasar plasar 24 Rep 385 Posts Drives: M3 Vert Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 Conv [0.00]	As long as we are spanking the proverbial monkey, the car I really want is the upcoming VW BlueSport Roadster... Mmm, Mmm, good! VW BlueSport Roadster (Sorry, I fixed my iPhone link fails here and below...) Last edited by plasar; 11-21-2010 at 12:31 AM..
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thez99 Colonel 153 Rep 2,757 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi A4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arden, NC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2013 BMW 135i [0.00]	Honestly this whole argument about BMW over VW/Audi is bullshit... Every car has its own goddamn problems and maybe some dont. I had my GTI for 2 years and drove it well, only ever had 2 problems, both were fixed immediately with no issue. Ive had my 135 for almost a year, not one single issue yet (knock on wood) and both dealers are and were nice and helpful. Some others may have the same exact car but due to the shityness of fate and chance, their car decides to fuck off on them constantly which coincides with their dealer being a bunch of asshats. That's just the way it works fellas, so calm down with this "who's better than who" shit and keep this thread on topic about which car that's not even out yet we would rather blow our money on!
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