ONE that never could be a garage queen

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Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

The overheating/limp mode was fixed by running a second oil cooler in series with the factory cooler. It is much larger and much cheaper than the one that Dinan sells. Also, the Dinan cooler requires that you remove the factory cooler. We found that using both worked better.

Followed your exploits with interest, congratulations!

What is the placement of the 2nd oil cooler?

Do you think there will be a kit for this? (Brackets, oil lines etc.)

What oil did you run - and do you think it makes any difference?

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by dna550

2008 Tire Rack
Cannonball
One Lap of AmericaTM
presented by Car and Driver Magazine


The final spoiler result - we pull in the 1st in class trophy, and finish 13th overall. It is painful to know that without my Texas off we would have been 8th overall and the fastest BMW as well. I will have more of a summary later. For now, I am home (flew, sticking Vic with the responsibility of driving the car back) and I am headed to a long nights sleep!

Final Overall Results

Cumulative Overall Points as of - Sat May 10 11:06:41

Results sorted by position

Pos Car # Vehicle Class Points 1

1 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo SSGT1 BB 6430 Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom

2 2 Dodge Hennessey Viper SSGT1 BB 6245 Chris Winkler, Rob Jones

3 27 WCM Ultralite S2K Alt Fuel 5955 Kevin Boulton, M Harmoney

4 22 Porsche GT3 SSGT1 BB 5810 Peter Lier, Ian Stewart

5 25 Chevrolet Z06 Corvette SSGT1 BB 5760 Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran

6 8 Ford GT SSGT1 BB 5620 James Stowell, John Fuchs

7 3 Mongoose GTP SSGT1 BB 5595 Jeremy Herzberg, Danny Popp

8 39 BMW E46 M3 SSGT1 SB 5460 Catesby Jones,

9 9 Porsche 996TT SSGT1 BB 5445 Manuel Da Silva, Christine Da Silva

10 13 Subaru Impreza STi MidPri Sed 5420 Steven Rankins, Steven Kornhaus, Jennifer Dunnaway

11 100 Nissan GT-R SSGT1 BB 5380 Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst

12 10 Porsche 911 GT3 SSGT1 BB 5285 Chuck Veth, Adam Strelczuk

13 34 BMW 135i SSGT2 SB 5170 Victor Hall, Alex May, James Clay

14 15 Dodge SRT-4 MidPri Sed 5135 Douglas Wind, Devin Clancy, Eric Hulshart

15 33 BMW M3 Sedan Luxury Sed 5025 Mike Schnell Renner, Jim Byrd, Chris Thompson

16 32 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 4890 Mark Simons, Brian Hair

17 4 Mongoose GTP SSGT1 BB 4865 Jon Krolewicz, Ray Krolewicz

18 57 BMW 335i SSGT1 SB 4795 Robin Sparrow, Barry Battle

19 18 Porsche GT-3 SSGT1 BB 4615 Geoffrey Bond,

20 50 Just a Neon SRT4 MidPri Sed 4595 Dan Schaut, Ben Schaut, Nicholas Schaut

21 12 MTM-Hoppen Audi S4 Quattro Luxury Sed 4555 Norman Babcock, Mike Babcock

22 16 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 4540 Mark Murnahan, Stephen Gerber

23 17 Ultima GTR SSGT1 BB 4535 Don Kahn, Carl Warren

24 21 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 4490 Jonathan Czarny, Jonathan Miller

25 20 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 4395 Dick Clark, Jerry Clark

26 61 Honda Odyssey S U V 4370 Bradley Buchanan, Paul Street, Steven Manley

27 14 Dodge Neon SSGT2 SB 4355 Greg Hagopian, Enrique Ramirez

28 51 VW GTI SSGT2 SB 4265 Bill Unwin, Reg Noble

29 38 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 SB 4220 Neil Simon, Woody Hair

30 69 Dodge Charger SRT8 Luxury Sed 3950 Howard LaFever, Mark Grzella

31 23 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 BB 3920 Rudy Arias, John Oliver

32 5 Porsche Cayman GTR SSGT1 SB 3830 Donald Barnes, Leh Keen

33 88 Chevy HHR SS Retro 3695 Amanda Hennessy, Thomas Daetwyler, Andreas Bloechliger

34 35 Ford Mustang GT SSGT2 BB 3670 Phil Munschauer, Russell Vester

35 30 Ford Mustang GTS SSGT2 BB 3650 Mark Blaha, David Rothert

36 53 Mazda Miata SSGT2 SB 3605 Joe Woodward, David Watts

37 52 Dodge Stealth R/T Tu SSGT2 SB 3515 George Bruggenthies, Lauren Bruggenthies

38 24 Dodge Viper SRT/10 Co SSGT1 BB 3500 George Batejan, Steve Smotrich

39 58 Volkswagen Jetta GLI Econo Car 3490 Matt Chambers, Ben Chambers, Erik Stearns

40 48 Chevrolet HHR SS Retro 3460 Robert Dubler, Christian Schober, Richard Plank

41 47 Chevrolet HHR SS Retro 3370 Markus Pizzali, Harold Andermatt

42 46 Mercedes E55 Luxury Sed 3215 Rene von Richthofen, Hugh D. Bate

43 66 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Vint Amer 2950 Michael Hickman, Damon Josz

44 54 Honda Civic Si Econo Car 2930 Mike Roberts, Lea Croteau

45 94 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 2850 Fay Teal, C. David Teal, Wayne Hickman

46 29 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 SSGT2 BB 2775 Kenny Walters, James Olari

47 49 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 2720 Gary Morris, Stephen Morris

48 28 Porsche 911/993 SSGT1 BB 2645 Joe Drumheller, Don Flanigin

49 31 Ford Mustang LX SSGT2 BB 2630 Scott Harrison, Corey Zimmerman

50 45 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 2565 Greg Morris, Don Maddox

51 65 Ford Mustang Vint Amer 2530 David Goodman, Sam Goodman

52 82 Plymouth Special Deluxe Vint Amer 2285 Glen Dodd, Michael Stein MD, Charles Lovelady

53 41 BMW M Roadster SSGT1 SB 2250 Jim Rzegocki, Francis Rzegocki

54 56 Dodge Neon R/T Econo Car 2160 E. Andrew Seppala, M. Scott McMeekin

55 40 Porsche 944LS SSGT2 SB 2090 J.E. Browne, Mark Peebles

56 44 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Sed 2050 Sean Martens, Jonathan Noble

57 67 Toyota Yaris LB Econo Car 2020 Loren Williams, Jeff Lushe

58 59 BMW 328i MidPri Sed 1870 Matthew Zekauskas, Pete Zekauskas

59 26 Porsche RS America SSGT1 BB 1755 Scott Schober, Paul Pigman

60 63 Honda Civic LX Sedan Econo Car 1730 Joshua Duvall, Barry Duvall

61 64 Alfa Romeo Milano MidPri Sed 1420 Damen Hattori, Nikolay Kostov, Kevin Hirshberg

62 43 BMW M3 SSGT1 SB 1410 Solomon Rosenthal, Tiago Patricio, Jeffrey Garrison

63 60 Porsche 911SC Vint For 1150 David Carr, Curt Krempa

64 42 smart (forfiveone) Econo Car 940 Stephen Noton, Doug McCabe

65 62 Isuzu Impulse SSGT2 SB 825 Andrew Barron, Teodoro Guzman, Scott bock

66 11 Dodge Challenger SRT- SSGT2 BB 825 Kowalski, Super Soul

67 68 Scion tC Econo Car 630 Benjamin Everett, Stephen McGowin

68 36 Porsche Boxster SSGT1 SB 575 Linda Cheatham, Helen Laughlin

69 105 Chevrolet IROC-Z28 SSGT2 BB 445 Gordon Aram, Jerry Anderson

70 19 VW Beetle TDI Retro 290 Brent Braun, Charles Creasy

71 7 Acura NSX SSGT1 SB 125 R. Buzz Clarke, Joel Lipperini

72 55 Honda CRX Econo Car 0 Jeffrey Cleary, Ian Myers

Congrats !!!!

Crowley

[1erich]

Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

The overheating/limp mode was fixed by running a second oil cooler in series with the factory cooler. It is much larger and much cheaper than the one that Dinan sells. Also, the Dinan cooler requires that you remove the factory cooler. We found that using both worked better.

Good to know!

[whya1?]

Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

My suggestion is that you contact James at BimmerWorld directly. He can give you a price list for all of the parts that you are interested in putting on your car and offer suggestions as to the ones that best fit your needs.

The overheating/limp mode was fixed by running a second oil cooler in series with the factory cooler. It is much larger and much cheaper than the one that Dinan sells. Also, the Dinan cooler requires that you remove the factory cooler. We found that using both worked better.

Alex

Have you had any problems in day-day driving? I would be afraid of the oil taking too long to heat up due to the extra plumbing of the second oil cooler. Probably not an issue but in the 135 and 335s i test drove the oil temp gauge didn't get moving for most of the drive and I was hesitant to put my foot into it till the end of the test drive. If that time was any longer I might never get to use the boost (j/k)

Also, where did you mount the second cooler? There isn't a heck of a lot of room under there.

[Terp1]

Like others, I am interested in specifics regarding the oil cooler since it wasn't mentioned on the Bimmerworld blog with all the other upgrades.

Now that OLOA is over what changes or improvements would you make to the car? I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys forging into new territory with the 1. It gives the rest of us a baseline to work off of.

[HD-FLHRSE]

Originally Posted by whya1?

Have you had any problems in day-day driving? I would be afraid of the oil taking too long to heat up due to the extra plumbing of the second oil cooler. Probably not an issue but in the 135 and 335s i test drove the oil temp gauge didn't get moving for most of the drive and I was hesitant to put my foot into it till the end of the test drive. If that time was any longer I might never get to use the boost (j/k)

Also, where did you mount the second cooler? There isn't a heck of a lot of room under there.

I agree, even without the extra oil cooler, the One takes a long time to heat oil.
My totally unsubstantiated guess is that in an attempt to protect the motor the temp gauge is programmed not to move off cold until the oil is already fully warmed. I did not notice and appreciable increase in the time it took for the gauge to read warm after the second cooler was installed. We put the second cooler behind the intercooler. BTW, the second cooler adds one qt of oil to the system.

Alex

[HD-FLHRSE]

Originally Posted by Terp1

Like others, I am interested in specifics regarding the oil cooler since it wasn't mentioned on the Bimmerworld blog with all the other upgrades.

Now that OLOA is over what changes or improvements would you make to the car? I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys forging into new territory with the 1. It gives the rest of us a baseline to work off of.

You would have to ask James but my guess is that since the oil cooler was custom (and not ready for immediate sale) that he left it off the list. I do know that he is working on a kit.

I plan to drive the car as raced in OLOA with the exception of the brakes.The full race floating rotors are simply too noisy for the street IMHO. The car is still at BW getting its picture taken for a couple of magazines. I am looking forward to getting it back.

Terp1 did you go to school at the home of the 2002 NCAA champs?

[OrientBlauZHP]

Thanks for a great read loaded with tons of info. And Congrats on placing first in your class, beating the M and placing 13th overall; great job :thumbup: - now I really want my 135i. Consider me subscribed.

[Terp1]

Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

You would have to ask James but my guess is that since the oil cooler was custom (and not ready for immediate sale) that he left it off the list. I do know that he is working on a kit.

I plan to drive the car as raced in OLOA with the exception of the brakes.The full race floating rotors are simply too noisy for the street IMHO. The car is still at BW getting its picture taken for a couple of magazines. I am looking forward to getting it back.

Terp1 did you go to school at the home of the 2002 NCAA champs?

Thanks. I'll keep an eye out on the BW website for the kit. No, I actually went to college in MI but I did live in Prince Georges County, MD for about six months. Nice but the traffic and cost of living are insane.

[HD-FLHRSE]

After living in the One 24/7 for 9 days with James and Vic I was thrilled to be home and more than happy to loan her to BimmerWorld for some magazine pictures. Well, after three weeks apart I get her back tomorrow and I can’t wait. While the One may never be a garage queen, I am looking forward to giving the car a long overdue waxing and detailing. I am praying, likely in vain, that the intervening weeks have dissipated the aroma of Gyro King, countless burritos and three large, often sweaty, guys.

Strange to own a car from new that now has almost 10K miles on the odometer (maybe another first for a One in North America?) and realize that it has spent a total of two days at my house. After thousands of miles I became used to the harshness of the full race suspension. However, the 1200lb race springs are history and I am curious to see how the car handles in “close” to stock form.

Alex

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Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

However, the 1200lb race springs are history and I am curious to see how the car handles in “close” to stock form.

What about the fancy brakes? I thought I read that the brake drying function had completely destroyed the rotors in a short period of time...

[mikeo]

Alex, if the springs have been replaced let us know what the new spring rate is front and rear, please.

[gemini330zhp]

Congrats on everything did the Factory BMW Team or BMW themselves congradulate you and your team??

[TazioNYC]

What did you think of the AA processor?

[hbiscuit]

BMW's are workhorses, and should be used as such.

[HD-FLHRSE]

Originally Posted by TazioNYC

What did you think of the AA processor?

I thought that the AA processor worked very well. The 335i was running Dinan and they were not happy. Oil heating issues, limp mode etc etc. Also, with the Dinan software, you can never go back to stock, short of buying a new ECU.

As for spring rates we were running 1100lb rears and I think 800 front. These are WAY too stiff for street use(this coming from a guy that has put stiff springs in every BMW sedan he has owned). I would talk to James at BimmerWorld about a good street/track spring.

Alex

[larryn]

Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

I thought that the AA processor worked very well. The 335i was running Dinan and they were not happy. Oil heating issues, limp mode etc etc. Also, with the Dinan software, you can never go back to stock, short of buying a new ECU.

Alex

Hi Alex,

I don't think that's correct. There's been lots of folks who have had issues with their car, and the BMW Center reflashed the DME/ECU back to stock, overwriting the Dinan parameters.

[JamesClay]

Originally Posted by HD-FLHRSE

As for spring rates we were running 1100lb rears and I think 800 front. These are WAY too stiff for street use(this coming from a guy that has put stiff springs in every BMW sedan he has owned). I would talk to James at BimmerWorld about a good street/track spring.

Alex

You have to admit that without the stock and blown-out rear shock mounts, the 1100 were way better...

Car had a good racy feel at that point I think. No one answer on this stuff for everyone.

[m3bs]

Originally Posted by jamesclay

You have to admit that without the stock and blown-out rear shock mounts, the 1100 were way better...

Car had a good racy feel at that point I think. No one answer on this stuff for everyone.

Any idea what the stock spring rates are?

[JamesClay]

Emailed you Brian. With the car this new, I am not wild about tossing out the specifics of what works.

[fourtailpipes]

what happened to the BBS wheels on page 1? i suspect these were the 18x9 et45 RE fitment? i've been waiting for someone to try this, but it looks like they abandoned it and went with LTW5's... why?