135 2011 or 2010

[Scoobs]

Hi,

Realise there may have been some similar posts.

But this has a slightly different twist.

Big discounts being offered on the 2010 Step's to clear the way for the DCT 2011.

If you were offered exactly the same spec car for $4,500 less for the step over the DCT - would you take it ?

Even at $2k difference - I would take the DCT. But $4,500 has me thinking.

Thoughts ?

[sparoz]

Get the to do a deal at $2000 more for the DCT if you want it . Otherwise the 135i slush is no slush at all.

[takahashi]

It is up to you. But I have a non DCT and driven a DCT Z4. Not much difference.

You get an extra gear though.

[amk2912]

Is there a difference between the 135i DCT and the M-DCT in the M3?

[Zuzu]

Originally Posted by amk2912

Is there a difference between the 135i DCT and the M-DCT in the M3?

For one, I dont think the 135i DCT has launch control.

I would get the DCT just for the awesome gear selector and steering wheel padles.


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review

Not a bad review either on the DCT.

[BMW //MPOWER]

Originally Posted by amk2912

Is there a difference between the 135i DCT and the M-DCT in the M3?

Yes, the unit in the M3 is a better one than the one used in the 335i, 135i & z4sdrive35. If you search it i'm sure you'll be able to dig up the specifics.

It's the same way the SMG units in the Mcars were different to those in the non-M's.

[airhead]

In a few months time, you won't miss the money but you'll probably still think about whether you should have got a DCT. So if that's what you want, go the DCT.

[OJR555]

Hey Scoobs,

Let me know what sort of deal you got offered on a 2011 DCT because I have one on order due in about 4 weeks and this is what I paid:

$86,000 for AW 135i/DCT/Sun Roof/Professional Nav/Carbon Mirror Caps and Carbon Boot Lip...... I have since added a couple of things but that was where the contract started so that gives you a base line.

Good luck and let us know your deal.

Jr

[Lukkyphil]

Meh bet you didn't pay $6K in Stamp duty and on-roads ;-)

[OJR555]

Originally Posted by Lukkyphil

Meh bet you didn't pay $6K in Stamp duty and on-roads ;-)

Phil that $86k was a drive away price

[BSM 335I]

With that incentive I would say go for it. You won't be disappointed with the step. Yes the dct shifts about 200ms quicker and has a second gear but honestly they are still both auto just one more advanced then the other. The slushbox that some people on here say to be so non sports car like have usually never driven one long enough to see the benefits of one. In the end you should test drive both yourself and then ask yourself the question again.

[Scoobs]

Originally Posted by OJR555

Hey Scoobs,

Let me know what sort of deal you got offered on a 2011 DCT because I have one on order due in about 4 weeks and this is what I paid:

$86,000 for AW 135i/DCT/Sun Roof/Professional Nav/Carbon Mirror Caps and Carbon Boot Lip...... I have since added a couple of things but that was where the contract started so that gives you a base line.

Good luck and let us know your deal.

Jr

JR -thanks for the info. So what would the Pro Nav be in that price. Trying to work out a bench mark for same spec less Pro Nav & Carbon. Thnx

[UnknownPerson]

Originally Posted by Zuzu

For one, I dont think the 135i DCT has launch control.

According to the BMW Australia website it does. If you go through the build process on the BMW Australia website, when you get to the "Options" tab, scroll right down to the bottom to the Transmission section, click on the DCT option and read the description on the right hand side.

"Includes Launch Control for maximum acceleration from standing start."

The 335i with DCT definitely has Launch Control, so can't see why the 135i with DCT wouldn't.

It's probably mentioned somewhere else which is easier to find, however it's the only spot I've noticed it mentioned though.

[OJR555]

Originally Posted by Scoobs

JR -thanks for the info. So what would the Pro Nav be in that price. Trying to work out a bench mark for same spec less Pro Nav & Carbon. Thnx

Scoobs

Mate the Pro Nav on my invoice was $3461 and Carbon all up was $1700

Hope this helps.... let me know what prices your getting back, Im always curious even though my car is ordered and partly paid for.

Jr

[Lukkyphil]

Originally Posted by OJR555

Phil that $86k was a drive away price

Lol I know,what are yours $3K? We really get shafted here in WA.

[OJR555]

Originally Posted by Lukkyphil

Lol I know,what are yours $3K? We really get shafted here in WA.

Stamps were $3314 in the car.

[moff]

135i DCT gets launch control... would dread to think what the negative effects of a few full on launches would be?

Would the DCT transmission take the pain more than say a few 1st gear hard accelerations on an MT car?

[BMW //MPOWER]

Originally Posted by moff

135i DCT gets launch control... would dread to think what the negative effects of a few full on launches would be?

Would the DCT transmission take the pain more than say a few 1st gear hard accelerations on an MT car?

From memory, I think ~10 launches with the SMG units = new clutch...
Can't imagine it'd be any different with DCT.

[OJR555]

Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

From memory, I think ~10 launches with the SMG units = new clutch...
Can't imagine it'd be any different with DCT.

Doubt it would be anything like the SMG to be honest, I had an R32 Golf MK5 and I used launch control on the DSG all the time and had no worries what so ever, never slipped or missed a beat.

Thats my 2 cents.

Jr

[135BANDIT]

I had a 2002 model Alfa with selespeed - if the DCT is anything like a selespeed, it will feel way different to the slushy.

As for the slushy , ours is very good - but it aint even close our old selespeed IMHO.

We got ours for $86k on road SB/CR/Sroof/Pro nav voice control/slushy. but that was with EPP. Ex stock delivery

OJR555 scored a great deal on car that had to be ordered.

JD

[BMW //MPOWER]

Originally Posted by OJR555

Doubt it would be anything like the SMG to be honest, I had an R32 Golf MK5 and I used launch control on the DSG all the time and had no worries what so ever, never slipped or missed a beat.

Thats my 2 cents.

Jr

How is the operation of the clutch when launching any different between an SMG & DSG?
But that said Launch Control in a non-M, may be like DCT in a non-M a slightly watered down version. As such the wear may not be as intense.