125i - rear tail light not working. Is Service Action applicable?

cyrax83 · 10-06-2015, 01:27 AM

Hi, based in Sydney have an e82 125i Coupe 2010 model (MY09), I assume out of warranty

The passenger side tail light (the LED strips) has gone out. I found this note on here saying there is a recall.

Is BMW required to fix this without charge if out of warranty? BMW quoted me ~$350 to replace the single tail light. I shot them an email with this service action to see what they say....

SUBJECT
Service Action: Replace Rear Lamps, or Replace Rear Lamp Seals

MODEL
E82, E88 (1 Series) up to October 12, 2009

SITUATION
The seals on the rear lamps emit a gas that causes damage to the electrical connectors on the LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) inside the rear lamp. In some cases, the LEDs become inoperative.

CAUSE
Unsuitable seal material

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This Service Action involves E82 and E88 (1 Series) vehicles which were produced from August 20, 2007 to October 12, 2009.

In order to determine whether a specific vehicle has had this Service Action completed or is affected by this Service Action, first check the B-pillar label for code number 564. If code number 564 has been punched out, the campaign has already been performed. If code number 564 has not been punched out, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of DCSnet (Dealer Communication System) or the Key Reader. Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action.

CORRECTION
Inspect both rear lamps and, depending on the result, replace the seals or the lamps on both sides of the vehicle.

PROCEDURE
Turn on the vehicle exterior lighting and check if the tail lights in both rear lamps are functioning correctly.

If both tail lights are working, replace the seals on both rear lamps (a total of 4 seals). Before installing the new seals, fully remove the original seals and be sure that residue does not fall into the rear light. Refer to Repair Instruction REP 63 21 101 "Replace sealing frame for rear light on the left or right".

No further work is necessary.

If one or both tail lights are inoperative, replace both of the rear lamps (always replace both, even if only one tail light has failed). Refer to Repair Instruction REP 63 21 180 "Remove and refit/replace the rear light on the left or right".

Dispose of the removed lamps in such a way so as to prevent reuse.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

63 21 7 285 537
Seal repair kit 1

or

63 21 4 871 751
Left and right rear lamp repair kit 1

Chandon · 10-06-2015, 06:09 AM

you often find members on here selling pre lci tail lights for $50-100

totti84 · 10-06-2015, 04:03 PM

Looks like he is LCI if he has LED strips - they sell for about $300 a pair

Also depending where you found that service action/recall, US/Europe recall campaigns are very rarely carried out in Aus.

cyrax83 · 10-06-2015, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totti84

Looks like he is LCI if he has LED strips - they sell for about $300 a pair

Also depending where you found that service action/recall, US/Europe recall campaigns are very rarely carried out in Aus.

BMW originally quoted me $300-$350 for replacement, not sure if it was for one, or for the pair and if it included labour...

I'll post back on what they say

woosh · 10-07-2015, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totti84

Looks like he is LCI if he has LED strips - they sell for about $300 a pair

Also depending where you found that service action/recall, US/Europe recall campaigns are very rarely carried out in Aus.

pre lci has three led strips.. picture in here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716583

Dackelone · 10-07-2015, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totti84

Looks like he is LCI if he has LED strips - they sell for about $300 a pair

Also depending where you found that service action/recall, US/Europe recall campaigns are very rarely carried out in Aus.

Both pre and post LCI lights have LEDs tubes.

OP is pre LCI.

All pre LCI lights built before Jan, 2010 will fail. BMW had a service campain, not a recall on this. Meaning IF the tail light failed under warranty... bmw would replace both. Once the car went out of warranty... the customer ended up paying.

LCI or LCI Black lines run about $300 to 350 for the pair.

You can also pickup used pre LCI tail lights on this forum for $50 to $100 for the pair.

Good Luck,
Dackel

Btw... Blacklines are LCI lights with a slight dark tint to them. BMW offers the LCI lights clear or slightly tinted.

LCI = Left side...
pre LCI on the right side...
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totti84 · 10-07-2015, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woosh

pre lci has three led strips.. picture in here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716583

My bad.. I thought I read he was MY10, not MY09

135n54 · 10-08-2015, 12:59 AM

if you want a pair of the Pre-LCI led tailights I've got a pair for sale..PM me, they are like brand new. Off my 135i.

cyrax83 · 10-29-2015, 11:27 PM

update - cost of replacement is $430 but BMW doesn't have stock yet... i'll leave it till I have to go for a Rego again... maybe something will come up for replacement I'll do some research

From the above posts it doesn't seem too difficult to replace

I've pm'd the user above

and yes I need pre-LCI based on the above photos

10-06-2015, 01:27 AM	#1
cyrax83 New Member 2 Rep 11 Posts Drives: BMW 125i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	125i - rear tail light not working. Is Service Action applicable? Hi, based in Sydney have an e82 125i Coupe 2010 model (MY09), I assume out of warranty The passenger side tail light (the LED strips) has gone out. I found this note on here saying there is a recall. Is BMW required to fix this without charge if out of warranty? BMW quoted me ~$350 to replace the single tail light. I shot them an email with this service action to see what they say.... SUBJECT Service Action: Replace Rear Lamps, or Replace Rear Lamp Seals MODEL E82, E88 (1 Series) up to October 12, 2009 SITUATION The seals on the rear lamps emit a gas that causes damage to the electrical connectors on the LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) inside the rear lamp. In some cases, the LEDs become inoperative. CAUSE Unsuitable seal material AFFECTED VEHICLES This Service Action involves E82 and E88 (1 Series) vehicles which were produced from August 20, 2007 to October 12, 2009. In order to determine whether a specific vehicle has had this Service Action completed or is affected by this Service Action, first check the B-pillar label for code number 564. If code number 564 has been punched out, the campaign has already been performed. If code number 564 has not been punched out, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of DCSnet (Dealer Communication System) or the Key Reader. Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action. CORRECTION Inspect both rear lamps and, depending on the result, replace the seals or the lamps on both sides of the vehicle. PROCEDURE Turn on the vehicle exterior lighting and check if the tail lights in both rear lamps are functioning correctly. If both tail lights are working, replace the seals on both rear lamps (a total of 4 seals). Before installing the new seals, fully remove the original seals and be sure that residue does not fall into the rear light. Refer to Repair Instruction REP 63 21 101 "Replace sealing frame for rear light on the left or right". No further work is necessary. If one or both tail lights are inoperative, replace both of the rear lamps (always replace both, even if only one tail light has failed). Refer to Repair Instruction REP 63 21 180 "Remove and refit/replace the rear light on the left or right". Dispose of the removed lamps in such a way so as to prevent reuse. PARTS INFORMATION Part Number Description Quantity 63 21 7 285 537 Seal repair kit 1 or 63 21 4 871 751 Left and right rear lamp repair kit 1
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10-06-2015, 06:09 AM	#2
Chandon Major 99 Rep 1,102 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (1)	you often find members on here selling pre lci tail lights for $50-100
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totti84 Major 112 Rep 1,140 Posts Drives: N54 135i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i M Sport [0.00]	Looks like he is LCI if he has LED strips - they sell for about $300 a pair Also depending where you found that service action/recall, US/Europe recall campaigns are very rarely carried out in Aus.
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10-08-2015, 12:59 AM	#8
135n54 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	if you want a pair of the Pre-LCI led tailights I've got a pair for sale..PM me, they are like brand new. Off my 135i.
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10-29-2015, 11:27 PM	#9
cyrax83 New Member 2 Rep 11 Posts Drives: BMW 125i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	update - cost of replacement is $430 but BMW doesn't have stock yet... i'll leave it till I have to go for a Rego again... maybe something will come up for replacement I'll do some research From the above posts it doesn't seem too difficult to replace I've pm'd the user above and yes I need pre-LCI based on the above photos
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