Manual tranny question

ap1994 · 02-04-2006, 02:43 PM

I just purchased a 330i in December and have about 1000 miles on it. I parked the car today and powered it off. I put the parking brake on and had the car in neutral. The car let me move the stick to 1st without pressing the clutch?? With the engine running the car does not let me move the stick. Is this normal?

Let me know. Thanks,
Andy

ben1364 · 02-04-2006, 02:46 PM

In a word, yes. If the engine is not running and the drivetrain is not in a bind you should be able to move the shift lever through all the gears without the clutch.

shimshimhada · 02-04-2006, 02:47 PM

Yep, you can you go through the gears if the engine is off without using the clutch pedal. Actually, you can shift WITH the engine off without using the clutch pedal, if the revs are perfectly aligned. Don't do it though, it's not worth the risk.

ap1994 · 02-04-2006, 02:47 PM

Is this bad for the car? I dont plan on doing it, but I happened to notice it today for the first time. Sorry I am paranoid as this is my first manual. Im 99% certain I havent done anything to hurt the clutch.
Andy

ap1994 · 02-04-2006, 02:48 PM

You guys are the best. This almost turned into a terrible weekend.
Andy

shimshimhada · 02-04-2006, 02:50 PM

Nah, I do it all the time. I like to sit in the passenger seat occasionally and pretend I have a right-hand drive car. I make the sounds and everything, WRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, OOOOOHhhh, perfect double declutching heel-toe downshifts everytime.

ap1994 · 02-04-2006, 02:51 PM

I just never thought that could occur without using the clutch. Is this the same on all cars? I love this car!
Andy

shimshimhada · 02-04-2006, 02:51 PM

It's the same in any manual transmission car.

ap1994 · 02-04-2006, 02:54 PM

Thanks. Seriously, I am a happy guy right now.
Andy

ben1364 · 02-04-2006, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1994

Is this bad for the car? I dont plan on doing it, but I happened to notice it today for the first time. Sorry I am paranoid as this is my first manual. Im 99% certain I havent done anything to hurt the clutch.
Andy

You haven't hurt the clutch. If you try to match revs while shifting without the clutch, you won't hurt the clutch though you might trash the transmission if you make a mistake.

02-04-2006, 02:43 PM	#1
ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	Manual tranny question I just purchased a 330i in December and have about 1000 miles on it. I parked the car today and powered it off. I put the parking brake on and had the car in neutral. The car let me move the stick to 1st without pressing the clutch?? With the engine running the car does not let me move the stick. Is this normal? Let me know. Thanks, Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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ben1364 Captain 14 Rep 940 Posts Drives: E90 330iA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Georgetown, TX iTrader: (0)	In a word, yes. If the engine is not running and the drivetrain is not in a bind you should be able to move the shift lever through all the gears without the clutch.
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shimshimhada Brigadier General 443 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	Yep, you can you go through the gears if the engine is off without using the clutch pedal. Actually, you can shift WITH the engine off without using the clutch pedal, if the revs are perfectly aligned. Don't do it though, it's not worth the risk.
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ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	Is this bad for the car? I dont plan on doing it, but I happened to notice it today for the first time. Sorry I am paranoid as this is my first manual. Im 99% certain I havent done anything to hurt the clutch. Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	You guys are the best. This almost turned into a terrible weekend. Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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shimshimhada Brigadier General 443 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	Nah, I do it all the time. I like to sit in the passenger seat occasionally and pretend I have a right-hand drive car. I make the sounds and everything, WRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, OOOOOHhhh, perfect double declutching heel-toe downshifts everytime.
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ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	I just never thought that could occur without using the clutch. Is this the same on all cars? I love this car! Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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ap1994 Private 7 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Middlebury, CT iTrader: (0)	Thanks. Seriously, I am a happy guy right now. Andy __________________ 330i Titanium Silver, Black, Aluminum trim, Comfort Access, Heated Seats, Sport, Bluetooth, Nav, Sat prep
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