Which exhaust makes the most sense?

1013mm · 03-01-2010, 12:44 PM

Hey guys, this might be a really real noob/stupid/retard question but I never went with an aftermarket before so help me out here

Anyway.... just wanted to know which exhaust makes the most sense to you guys if its just upgrading the exhaust and nothing else. I know a few designs are similar. I just want functionality too. Thanks.

This might be an opinionated discussion so I don't mind, I just wan to find the right one for me.

richsnuc · 03-01-2010, 01:27 PM

My two-cents are here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...24#post6821924

SV Concepts III · 03-01-2010, 01:46 PM

What are you looking to get out of the exhaust? I think aFe and Active make a perfect bolt on solution. The best advice I can give you is go out there and listen to as much as you can. One person's loud is another person's quiet. Most well designed systems will produce about the same power, the differentiators are price, sound, looks and quality.

miro2296 · 03-01-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

What are you looking to get out of the exhaust? I think aFe and Active make a perfect bolt on solution. The best advice I can give you is go out there and listen to as much as you can. One person's loud is another person's quiet. Most well designed systems will produce about the same power, the differentiators are price, sound, looks and quality.

+1 to that!

RaceTime · 03-01-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

What are you looking to get out of the exhaust? I think aFe and Active make a perfect bolt on solution. The best advice I can give you is go out there and listen to as much as you can. One person's loud is another person's quiet. Most well designed systems will produce about the same power, the differentiators are price, sound, looks and quality.

Well put! I totally agree!

BahamaBart · 03-03-2010, 07:32 PM

Good advise given. Add the new Berk muffler axleback to your review list.

1013mm · 03-03-2010, 07:42 PM

Here's my break down guys....

Stock- unique black tips, doesn't sound loud enough
BMW Performance- sounds alright, shiny tips and it's BMW
AA- looks great, but I can get the AFE which is the same for cheaper
AFE- a little too throaty sounding, cheap, doesn't look as good as the AA
Eisenmann- looks and sounds great/exotic, too expensive
Dixis- so nice with the ti, but also too expensive

Currently checking Japanese offerings....

I'm looking for something that won't drone over my music, looks nice (shiny), sounds exotic (not throaty), and not too loud or over $900.

ennislaw · 03-03-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhang

Hey guys, this might be a really real noob/stupid/retard question but I never went with an aftermarket before so help me out here

Anyway.... just wanted to know which exhaust makes the most sense to you guys if its just upgrading the exhaust and nothing else. I know a few designs are similar. I just want functionality too. Thanks.
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I think it depends not only on the quality of sound, but also which parts of the exhaust system you intend to replace. Are you going for new downpipes, mid-pipes and axle-back, or just some combination of those? Personally, I liked the Meisterschaft sound best, cp-e was a close second, but the drone issue was out there still, unsatisfied to my way of thinking. With just an axle-back, at least you're in a better position (as I see it) regarding any warranty issues. Once you start removing cats, just hope you don't have an HPFP failure and a balky dealer, or as it appears now BMW NA moving away from replacing the pumps without a fight.

pge

Schn3ll · 03-03-2010, 07:52 PM

I love my maddad setup, zero drone, great materials/welds, not obnoxiously loud, and priced reasonably.

Eyeman · 03-03-2010, 07:56 PM

You'll be dropping some weight and gaining sound with an exhaust. I have the MadDad whisper but I'd think you should probably go with the louder, lighter, and better looking MadDad Street version.

and 1 · 03-04-2010, 10:04 AM

street version? go on....

i only see the whisper on their website: http://www.daddysscp.com/BMW_135i_Exhaust_s/31.htm

My135 · 03-04-2010, 11:13 AM

If I were you, I would definitely check out the Maddad Whisper axle back (not too loud by itself) and Maddad mid-pipes. I am getting Maddad mid-pipes with my existing aFe, so I am expecting the combination to be loud.

BimmerSchnitzel · 03-04-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhang

Here's my break down guys....

Stock- unique black tips, doesn't sound loud enough
BMW Performance- sounds alright, shiny tips and it's BMW
AA- looks great, but I can get the AFE which is the same for cheaper
AFE- a little too throaty sounding, cheap, doesn't look as good as the AA
Eisenmann- looks and sounds great/exotic, too expensive
Dixis- so nice with the ti, but also too expensive

Currently checking Japanese offerings....

I'm looking for something that won't drone over my music, looks nice (shiny), sounds exotic (not throaty), and not too loud or over $900.

Isn't the Eisenmann and the BMW performance exhaust one and the same? I thought I read somewhere the BMW performance exhaust come from Eisenmann..

zeng0009 · 03-04-2010, 12:26 PM

CP-E brother is the way to go, got great sound plus looks and quality. check the reviews here in the 1addicts

Simon_135i · 03-04-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerSchnitzel

Isn't the Eisenmann and the BMW performance exhaust one and the same? I thought I read somewhere the BMW performance exhaust come from Eisenmann..

link? I like to know

jeremydgreat · 03-04-2010, 03:32 PM

jzhang, I think I'm on the same hunt as you right now. Worried that AFE might be a little annoying/loud. Don't want to spend a crap load.

Thoughts on Maddad?

ennislaw · 03-04-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhang

Hey guys, this might be a really real noob/stupid/retard question but I never went with an aftermarket before so help me out here

Anyway.... just wanted to know which exhaust makes the most sense to you guys if its just upgrading the exhaust and nothing else. ... .

Let me add, I preferred the Meisterschaft Touring HP over the rest (which I bought), cp-e was a close second, however, there is a question of drone, which has never been resolved to my satisfaction (at least with their mid-pipes). The Touring HP has an exquisite sound, but is certainly not loud; in fact, I'm thinking of adding some resonated mid-pipes to bump it up some. And although I didn't particularly rank the MadDad's axle-back sound that high, I'm certainly interested in their mid-pipes.

Sound quality (as well as volume) of exhausts is an individual taste, you just need to listen as many as you can (in person if possible) to see what you like and line that up with your budget.

pge

ar design · 03-04-2010, 04:18 PM

I am a BIG fan of stock exhaust + catless downpipes. Most of the HP gains are made with downpipes, and it produces a slightly more aggressive tone without being annoying or droning.

1013mm · 03-04-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerSchnitzel

Isn't the Eisenmann and the BMW performance exhaust one and the same? I thought I read somewhere the BMW performance exhaust come from Eisenmann..

They almost look identical so that's what I'm thinking too. I used to like CP-E then I started reading about drone and bad customer service?? Am I wrong??

ennislaw · 03-04-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

I am a BIG fan of stock exhaust + catless downpipes. Most of the HP gains are made with downpipes, and it produces a slightly more aggressive tone without being annoying or droning.

One of the downsides to the stock axle-back is the weight, it's heavy. There was a considerable difference in weight between the stock and the Meisterschaft Touring I installed.

pge

bimmerboy · 03-04-2010, 05:12 PM

which makes the most sense? the stock one.... if your just upgrading exhaust and nothing else, go with the afe or berk, max hp/low cost/best sound

themyst · 03-04-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

I am a BIG fan of stock exhaust + catless downpipes. Most of the HP gains are made with downpipes, and it produces a slightly more aggressive tone without being annoying or droning.

DPs have this horrible drone when first installed, but after a good few hundred miles of driving, you can't really tell the difference. DPS + stock exhaust FTW

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1013mm aka 1013MM 1249 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	Which exhaust makes the most sense? Hey guys, this might be a really real noob/stupid/retard question but I never went with an aftermarket before so help me out here Anyway.... just wanted to know which exhaust makes the most sense to you guys if its just upgrading the exhaust and nothing else. I know a few designs are similar. I just want functionality too. Thanks. This might be an opinionated discussion so I don't mind, I just wan to find the right one for me. __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread Last edited by 1013mm; 03-01-2010 at 01:12 PM..
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SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	What are you looking to get out of the exhaust? I think aFe and Active make a perfect bolt on solution. The best advice I can give you is go out there and listen to as much as you can. One person's loud is another person's quiet. Most well designed systems will produce about the same power, the differentiators are price, sound, looks and quality.
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1249 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	Here's my break down guys.... Stock- unique black tips, doesn't sound loud enough BMW Performance- sounds alright, shiny tips and it's BMW AA- looks great, but I can get the AFE which is the same for cheaper AFE- a little too throaty sounding, cheap, doesn't look as good as the AA Eisenmann- looks and sounds great/exotic, too expensive Dixis- so nice with the ti, but also too expensive Currently checking Japanese offerings.... I'm looking for something that won't drone over my music, looks nice (shiny), sounds exotic (not throaty), and not too loud or over $900.
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Schn3ll Captain 458 Rep 733 Posts Drives: '24 Carrera T Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 135 [0.00]	I love my maddad setup, zero drone, great materials/welds, not obnoxiously loud, and priced reasonably.
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	If I were you, I would definitely check out the Maddad Whisper axle back (not too loud by itself) and Maddad mid-pipes. I am getting Maddad mid-pipes with my existing aFe, so I am expecting the combination to be loud. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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zeng0009 Private 8 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 08 black e82 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ottawa iTrader: (0)	CP-E brother is the way to go, got great sound plus looks and quality. check the reviews here in the 1addicts
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jeremydgreat Captain 76 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA (Carlsbad to be exact) iTrader: (1)	jzhang, I think I'm on the same hunt as you right now. Worried that AFE might be a little annoying/loud. Don't want to spend a crap load. Thoughts on Maddad? __________________ 135i // M-Sports Package // RR Oil Catch Can // Black Kidneys // iCarbon Hood // Alum Pedals // KW v2 Coilovers // Vorshlag Camber Plates // Hotchkis Sway Bar // Wheel Studs. Best mod ever? Tires. 255's in front, 275's in back.
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ar design 295 Rep 4,408 Posts Drives: 04 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (9)	I am a BIG fan of stock exhaust + catless downpipes. Most of the HP gains are made with downpipes, and it produces a slightly more aggressive tone without being annoying or droning. __________________ -Critter
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bimmerboy Captain 23 Rep 601 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	which makes the most sense? the stock one.... if your just upgrading exhaust and nothing else, go with the afe or berk, max hp/low cost/best sound __________________ *--2009 BSM 135i--* -Manual, Sport Package, BMW Assist
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