135i...Cult Vehicle???

ghost6 · 06-12-2011, 10:34 AM

Do you think the 1 series will ever qualify as a cult vehicle?

Diver · 06-12-2011, 10:50 AM

Way too early to say. It's uniqueness lies in its small size and relatively powerful motor. The replacement (probably a 2 series) has every indication (to me) of being a 4 cylinder car. Some automotive publications say it will be a 6, but that is speculation. If no 6 cylinder replacement is built, the chances for cult status are improved. Remember, not every cult car was a big seller.

ghost6 · 06-12-2011, 12:14 PM

I agree that cult status requires that rare mix of relatively low sales volume combined with a great / unique car. I think the original Z3 based - M Coupe qualifies. The 3 series is much too popular to ever be considered a cult vehicle, but I think the 1 series stands a chance. Especially if the new version is 4 cylinder only.

bogart · 06-12-2011, 03:39 PM

In 5-10 years, yes.

swaite · 06-12-2011, 03:59 PM

135, no. 1M, yes.

ptack · 06-12-2011, 05:49 PM

Name some cult vehicles. I think most of the ones that come to mind are cars that the general public ignored or disdained, but that found a passionate, quirky following. I would say the 1 is too good to be a cult vehicle. I think it will be considered (in certain versions) as a classic, like the 2002.

Cuz5150 · 06-12-2011, 06:21 PM

Cult Vehicle? Sure, in about 10yrs or so, when a rear wheel drive*sporty* vehicle would be pretty hard to find (it seems everything is going front wheel drive for the Eco's)..........then the 1er will shine

like one of those gold bricks that you see at the Fort-Knox depository

Diver · 06-13-2011, 09:40 AM

Low sales volume is not a requirement. Lots of 1965 Mustangs were sold and they are cult cars if one ever was. Scarcity results from time.

tritonx · 06-13-2011, 10:18 AM

Don't we all worship the E82 here? I do...

We are a cult.

And I definitely think in 10-20 years, this car will be seen as one of the best our year/generation/era had to offer.

SlickShift · 06-20-2011, 06:29 PM

I don't know about the 135i. Most definitely the 1M.

FJUNO78 · 06-20-2011, 09:03 PM

I don't think so. The car is not universally liked. Most reviews bash the looks of it, (sagging mid section). Not to mention the understeer issues.

Liking this car is like rooting for the underdog. Especially given the rave reviews the e92 gets.

I think if this car was 200-300lbs lighter and had was more racing oriented, it could have been something that would be highly sought after.

Focusedintntions · 06-20-2011, 09:37 PM

Only time will tell!

fancyfl1ght · 06-20-2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost6

Do you think the 1 series will ever qualify as a cult vehicle?

the 135i will be the greatest car BMW has built for all time. Sorry 1 Series M Coupe.

Prof T · 09-05-2011, 08:46 PM

Excellent driving car, in relative short supply, with some great reviews. It's a true old school BMW, but I don't know much about the "cult" stuff.

bimmerboy · 09-05-2011, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaite

135, no. 1M, yes.

Bimmer-Bob · 09-06-2011, 09:58 AM

To all the folks who think that the 1M will be a cult classic, but not the 135i, think about this: the 1M is hard to get NOW, and it's still in production. While I have no doubt it will be seen as the pinnacle of the 1 Series, I think there will be enthusiasts who "settle" for a 135i, or even a 128i. Similar to the way that the 2002 Turbo is the most desirable '02, but most enthusiasts, because of cost and scarcity, are restoring 2002tii's or plain old 2002's. BMW fans seem to revolve around platform, and I think the E82's combination of low sales volume, polarizing styling, and great engines will work together to make it a desirable car to own in the future. It's really sort of an iconic little BMW, I think.

dtwyim · 09-06-2011, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob

To all the folks who think that the 1M will be a cult classic, but not the 135i, think about this: the 1M is hard to get NOW, and it's still in production. While I have no doubt it will be seen as the pinnacle of the 1 Series, I think there will be enthusiasts who "settle" for a 135i, or even a 128i. Similar to the way that the 2002 Turbo is the most desirable '02, but most enthusiasts, because of cost and scarcity, are restoring 2002tii's or plain old 2002's. BMW fans seem to revolve around platform, and I think the E82's combination of low sales volume, polarizing styling, and great engines will work together to make it a desirable car to own in the future. It's really sort of an iconic little BMW, I think.

I think my sparkling graphite metallic E82 N54 6MT sounds more and more like a keeper

BimmerE82 · 09-06-2011, 06:34 PM

I didn't "settle" for my 135i. I think it's a hell of a car!

SiN55 · 09-07-2011, 07:48 AM

Yes! Why? Because of rear drive/6 cylinders/turbo. That's why!

TX78666 · 09-07-2011, 09:51 AM

Dunno.

Interesting article about cult cars. http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=434627

I think one quote sums it up.

Quote:

It hits people in the gut, where they say, `I've got to have one of these and I will keep it forever.'

I'm still undecided about the 135, in that regard. After a day at the track, and a long road trip this weekend, it is starting to look like a long-term keeper. I will almost certainly keep the e46 forever. One man does not make a cult following, though.

BrokenVert · 09-07-2011, 10:02 AM

Why does it matter if it is or isnt?

All that matters is if you love it and keep it forever.

And on that note I probably will. There are more 1M Coupes than there are 08 135 verts

doublevanosrc · 09-07-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiN55

Yes! Why? Because of rear drive/6 cylinders/turbo/manual transmission. That's why!

Fixed.

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Diver Brigadier General 504 Rep 3,446 Posts Drives: Black '12 135i - Sold Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Way too early to say. It's uniqueness lies in its small size and relatively powerful motor. The replacement (probably a 2 series) has every indication (to me) of being a 4 cylinder car. Some automotive publications say it will be a 6, but that is speculation. If no 6 cylinder replacement is built, the chances for cult status are improved. Remember, not every cult car was a big seller. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com
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ghost6 New Member 7 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 135i (Orderd) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	I agree that cult status requires that rare mix of relatively low sales volume combined with a great / unique car. I think the original Z3 based - M Coupe qualifies. The 3 series is much too popular to ever be considered a cult vehicle, but I think the 1 series stands a chance. Especially if the new version is 4 cylinder only.
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bogart Lieutenant Colonel 116 Rep 1,664 Posts Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [7.06]	In 5-10 years, yes. __________________
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ptack Brigadier General 269 Rep 4,470 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	Name some cult vehicles. I think most of the ones that come to mind are cars that the general public ignored or disdained, but that found a passionate, quirky following. I would say the 1 is too good to be a cult vehicle. I think it will be considered (in certain versions) as a classic, like the 2002. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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Cuz5150 Major 215 Rep 1,489 Posts Drives: 06-M3ZHP/04-M3 Vert/02Duc998 Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Cult Vehicle? Sure, in about 10yrs or so, when a rear wheel drivesporty vehicle would be pretty hard to find (it seems everything is going front wheel drive for the Eco's)..........then the 1er will shine like one of those gold bricks that you see at the Fort-Knox depository __________________ -Diplomacy is saying, "nice doggie while trying to find a rock"- 07-Z4 coupe-Black/Black/6MT/sport/premium/X 04-M3 vert-Black/Imolla/6MT/Cold/Xenon/HK/ 06-M3 Coupe-Mystic/Black/6MT/ZCP/Xenon/HK/ 09-135i- AW/Bk-Lette/6MT/M-pac/Nav/Hi-Fi/Usb-Ipod/SOLD
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Diver Brigadier General 504 Rep 3,446 Posts Drives: Black '12 135i - Sold Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Low sales volume is not a requirement. Lots of 1965 Mustangs were sold and they are cult cars if one ever was. Scarcity results from time. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com
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tritonx Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 247 Posts Drives: '11 128i, '92 325is Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Quebec, Qc, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 128i [0.00] 1992 325is [0.00] 1994 318is [0.00]	Don't we all worship the E82 here? I do... We are a cult. And I definitely think in 10-20 years, this car will be seen as one of the best our year/generation/era had to offer. __________________
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SlickShift Lieutenant Colonel 323 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: '11 BMW E90 M3 ZCP, '21 X5 ZMP Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (7)	I don't know about the 135i. Most definitely the 1M. __________________ -Nick 2018 BMW 440i - M Sport, Exec Glacier Silver Metallic/Coral Red Dakota Retired: '00 323i, '06 325Ci, '09 135i, '06 Z4M Roadster, '93 525i, '76 2002, '14 X1, '14 M235i, '16 X4, '16 435i
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FJUNO78 Captain 15 Rep 885 Posts Drives: 25 to 2 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: staten island, NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 135i [0.00] 2007 e92 328I [0.00]	I don't think so. The car is not universally liked. Most reviews bash the looks of it, (sagging mid section). Not to mention the understeer issues. Liking this car is like rooting for the underdog. Especially given the rave reviews the e92 gets. I think if this car was 200-300lbs lighter and had was more racing oriented, it could have been something that would be highly sought after. __________________ 2010 135i - Alpine White - Coral Red- Glacier Trim - Bluetooth - ///M Sport - Paddle Shifters
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Focusedintntions Colonel 105 Rep 2,696 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M-Sport :D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NoVA iTrader: (1)	Only time will tell! __________________ Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death… – Hunter Thompson
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Prof T COACH 2 Rep 285 Posts Drives: 2010 135 conv, 2009 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: BMW iTrader: (0)	Excellent driving car, in relative short supply, with some great reviews. It's a true old school BMW, but I don't know much about the "cult" stuff.
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Bimmer-Bob ! 693 Rep 3,266 Posts Drives: 2010 128i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Anacortes, WA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2010 BMW 128i (E82) [9.25]	To all the folks who think that the 1M will be a cult classic, but not the 135i, think about this: the 1M is hard to get NOW, and it's still in production. While I have no doubt it will be seen as the pinnacle of the 1 Series, I think there will be enthusiasts who "settle" for a 135i, or even a 128i. Similar to the way that the 2002 Turbo is the most desirable '02, but most enthusiasts, because of cost and scarcity, are restoring 2002tii's or plain old 2002's. BMW fans seem to revolve around platform, and I think the E82's combination of low sales volume, polarizing styling, and great engines will work together to make it a desirable car to own in the future. It's really sort of an iconic little BMW, I think. __________________ ____________________________ My Build Thread
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BimmerE82 Captain 105 Rep 837 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Sport package Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tucson, Arizona iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [7.00]	I didn't "settle" for my 135i. I think it's a hell of a car! __________________
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SiN55 Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 262 Posts Drives: 135i N55 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Yes! Why? Because of rear drive/6 cylinders/turbo. That's why!
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BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 477 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	Why does it matter if it is or isnt? All that matters is if you love it and keep it forever. And on that note I probably will. There are more 1M Coupes than there are 08 135 verts __________________
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