BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-21-2018, 11:03 PM   #1
mmaesquire
Registered
0
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: Grey 2012 128i
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Orlando

iTrader: (0)

Which tune to get? AA or BPC

Hey everyone, I am a recent 128i n52 owner and have been lurking on this site and a few others for some time now. I just purchased a used 128i after owning an E46 and before that an E36.

But enough about the past and on to my main question
I have seen a pretty positive response for the AA tune and being that I have an AT I feel I could benefit from a new tune to help smooth out the transmission. But recently on some of the E90 forums I saw that the BPC tune might be a better option...

As a newbie I am looking for some elder statesmen advice. I am thinking about doing a stage 3 swap at some point but am worried a little about the reliability of swiping out the manifold as reliability was a big reason for choosing the 128i over the 135i... well that and price lol.

Any advice and opinions would be welcomed!
Appreciate 0
      02-22-2018, 05:27 AM   #2
snub-nose 28
Private First Class
snub-nose 28's Avatar
United_States
52
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: 09 SGM 128i Cp 6MT ZSP/ZPP
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmaesquire View Post
Hey everyone, I am a recent 128i n52 owner and have been lurking on this site and a few others for some time now. I just purchased a used 128i after owning an E46 and before that an E36.

But enough about the past and on to my main question
I have seen a pretty positive response for the AA tune and being that I have an AT I feel I could benefit from a new tune to help smooth out the transmission. But recently on some of the E90 forums I saw that the BPC tune might be a better option...

As a newbie I am looking for some elder statesmen advice. I am thinking about doing a stage 3 swap at some point but am worried a little about the reliability of swiping out the manifold as reliability was a big reason for choosing the 128i over the 135i... well that and price lol.

Any advice and opinions would be welcomed!
Congrats on getting an N52. The way to go, among others too.

Strongly voiced advice: Hold off on that tune at this early point in the ownership cycle. Defer until you and the car are ready-premature this soon

Unless you have full records, have an indie or dealer, perform your baseline service and maintenance review

Tune is soft goods, only occur after hard stuff. You're not near aquainted with hard-goods opportunities

A tune will not address the -how can I say this kindly- the plethora of opportunities awaiting you

When your hard mods have addressed the suspension, then have the 3-stage intake fitted. It's first tier before the tune

Tune now=total waste of $$

First 6-12 months: you're in get aquainted mode, and then, research-comparison-weigh and consider, then prioritize

Like a dance partner, get to know the moves, its' and yours. Enjoy this time, it's utterly unique, and evaporates (too) soon enough
__________________
m3 trw f+r|eibach 28mm fsway|dinan 15.8 rrsway|avant garde M621 19x8.5 square|mich ps4s|koni fsd|h&r sport|ecs trans mts|fogs delete|tower pin mod -2.20|m3 strut bar|3m tint|afe stg2 cai|akg m3 rsfb|ecs trailing arms|dinan r-stops|bmwp ssk|135i brembo+stoptech slot|braided lines|alcantara|supersprint rez delete|3IM disa|bespoke strg wheel|mudflap4x|milvs|

Last edited by snub-nose 28; 02-22-2018 at 01:28 PM. Reason: sp
Appreciate 2
      02-22-2018, 11:57 AM   #3
Taskmaster
Major General
Taskmaster's Avatar
Japan
1836
Rep
8,088
Posts

Drives: E92 LCI Msport 6 Speed
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Florida

iTrader: (5)

BPC - more supports power and free upgrades (on most tunes)
Appreciate 1
      02-22-2018, 01:52 PM   #4
desertman123
Mudflap Ambassador
desertman123's Avatar
United_States
750
Rep
1,096
Posts

Drives: '08 128i
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Orlando, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by snub-nose 28 View Post
Congrats on getting an N52. The way to go, among others too.

Strongly voiced advice: Hold off on that tune at this early point in the ownership cycle. Defer until you and the car are ready-premature this soon

Unless you have full records, have an indie or dealer, perform your baseline service and maintenance review

Tune is soft goods, only occur after hard stuff. You're not near aquainted with hard-goods opportunities

A tune will not address the -how can I say this kindly- the plethora of opportunities awaiting you

When your hard mods have addressed the suspension, then have the 3-stage intake fitted. It's first tier before the tune

Tune now=total waste of $$

First 6-12 months: you're in get aquainted mode, and then, research-comparison-weigh and consider, then prioritize

Like a dance partner, get to know the moves, its' and yours. Enjoy this time, it's utterly unique, and evaporates (too) soon enough
I agree, partially.

Wait til the car nickels and dimes you a few times. If you buy the tune now, something unrelated might break, and suddenly you're $2000 deep into a car you bought last week. Although being a previous BMW owner this may not surprise you.

Keep in mind, the 128i has some pretty good aftermarket support, but no where near what the 135i has to offer. You will hit the mod wall fairly quickly. Enjoy the journey while you can. I'm not saying don't buy the intake right now, but relax and find a good deal. Look into BimmerLabs.

Now that I have the 3.73 diff and 3 stage, I'm truly noticing how floppy the stock suspension is. Get some good rubber on there - or buy some correctly sized wheels and get a wide tire on her.

I see you're in Orlando. Do you enjoy car meets?
__________________

My 2008 128i - Sparkling Graphite/Beige - Sport pkg - 6MT - Click me!

Parents' 2014 528i - Mineral White/Ivory White - fully loaded
Appreciate 1
      02-22-2018, 04:40 PM   #5
mmaesquire
Registered
0
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: Grey 2012 128i
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Orlando

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for everyone's feedback.

I understand it might be a little too early to start modding also that the stage 3 + the tune is where real gains will be seen. Sunb-nose's poetic response really got to me lol.
I probably will take it slow a bit, feeling out the car and looking out for a stage 3 on car-parts until I see a deal too good to let go.

And yeah car meets sound good. Been awhile since I have been to one. Also probably a good way to pick others brains about where to start with my car. Just let me know when and where.

But whenever a tune does come into play.... It seems that people are still liking the BPC over the AA. Just interested in peoples reactions to both.
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2018, 03:44 PM   #6
Z3SpdDmn
Private First Class
15
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: PWC #80 M235iR, #007 SpecE30
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dexter, MI

iTrader: (1)

Can we shift this conversation to BPC vs AA on a car that has a 3-stage intake manifold, intake / axle-back? What are the advantages of one tune over the other?
__________________
-Anthony Magagnoli
Pirelli World Chalenge: Rooster Hall Racing/FCP Euro #80 M235iR - 2017 Rookie of the Year
'08 "130is" 6MT / '06 330xi 6MT / '01 Z3 3.0i Coupe 5MT / '88 Pontiac Fiero GT 5MT / SpecE30 / '18 Giulia Q2
Drive Faster Now
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2018, 04:03 PM   #7
Taskmaster
Major General
Taskmaster's Avatar
Japan
1836
Rep
8,088
Posts

Drives: E92 LCI Msport 6 Speed
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Florida

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z3SpdDmn View Post
Can we shift this conversation to BPC vs AA on a car that has a 3-stage intake manifold, intake / axle-back? What are the advantages of one tune over the other?
There is nothing wrong with AA's product, and as far as I've heard, it's been revised recently.

However, the BPC product is 'better' in that it


*Makes more low end power/ and more power after peak at top end (and if you can get BPC's dyno tune, more power everywhere)

*Has free upgrades for basic mods - it costs you nothing to go from a single stage manifold tune to a 3 stage tune, to a header tune.

*Has more upgrade options - MILVs, and Burble tunes are a few options that BPC offers that no one else has. You can also get ALFA N (not recommend for street use, but you can) and run the N54 manifold, have a higher redline, and have them remove the 4th stage DISA wall.

*Is what all the cool kids are doing - You can be cool like me and grab a great tune.

My experience with BPC has been exceptional, and Bob and Randall have been very patient with me on all my questions and trouble shooting (unrelated)


Bob@BPC Phil@BPC
__________________
Axiom - E92 Msport 6MT: Bolt ons - MILV - BPC tune.
Appreciate 2
      02-25-2018, 01:19 PM   #8
desertman123
Mudflap Ambassador
desertman123's Avatar
United_States
750
Rep
1,096
Posts

Drives: '08 128i
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Orlando, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [5.00]
At this point AA just has a tune available, while BPC is constantly pushing the leading edge for this motor.
__________________

My 2008 128i - Sparkling Graphite/Beige - Sport pkg - 6MT - Click me!

Parents' 2014 528i - Mineral White/Ivory White - fully loaded
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2018, 02:39 PM   #9
Z3SpdDmn
Private First Class
15
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: PWC #80 M235iR, #007 SpecE30
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dexter, MI

iTrader: (1)

Thanks for the replys, guys... While there is a part of me that wants to "set it and forget it", as I have so many other things going on, I do like the idea of free upgrade for future headers and possibly the MILV upgrade.

Does the BPC come with an install tool, or do you have to send the ECU out? What's the cost of the BPC tune?
__________________
-Anthony Magagnoli
Pirelli World Chalenge: Rooster Hall Racing/FCP Euro #80 M235iR - 2017 Rookie of the Year
'08 "130is" 6MT / '06 330xi 6MT / '01 Z3 3.0i Coupe 5MT / '88 Pontiac Fiero GT 5MT / SpecE30 / '18 Giulia Q2
Drive Faster Now
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2018, 04:25 PM   #10
Taskmaster
Major General
Taskmaster's Avatar
Japan
1836
Rep
8,088
Posts

Drives: E92 LCI Msport 6 Speed
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Florida

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z3SpdDmn View Post
Thanks for the replys, guys... While there is a part of me that wants to "set it and forget it", as I have so many other things going on, I do like the idea of free upgrade for future headers and possibly the MILV upgrade.

Does the BPC come with an install tool, or do you have to send the ECU out? What's the cost of the BPC tune?
It comes with everything you need.
If you want a great setup - do the 3 stage manifold, and the MILV, and a nice exhaust. It will be substantially more powerful, smooth and flexible. Perfect for someone who wants extra pep.
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2018, 07:57 PM   #11
Z3SpdDmn
Private First Class
15
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: PWC #80 M235iR, #007 SpecE30
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dexter, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAxiom View Post
It comes with everything you need.
If you want a great setup - do the 3 stage manifold, and the MILV, and a nice exhaust. It will be substantially more powerful, smooth and flexible. Perfect for someone who wants extra pep.
I just swapped to the 3SI with Turner intake tube this weekend. The car had a BMW Performance Intake and Exhaust and BMS PBX already. 3.64 LSD will be going in next weekend, too.

Considering that I may do a header and MILV later down the road, the BPC tune might be the better route... I'll keep investigating. I don't need the last couple hp if there's any possibility of sacrificing reliability, so that's mainly what I'll be investigating - if there have been any problems with the tune thus far.

Thanks!
__________________
-Anthony Magagnoli
Pirelli World Chalenge: Rooster Hall Racing/FCP Euro #80 M235iR - 2017 Rookie of the Year
'08 "130is" 6MT / '06 330xi 6MT / '01 Z3 3.0i Coupe 5MT / '88 Pontiac Fiero GT 5MT / SpecE30 / '18 Giulia Q2
Drive Faster Now
Appreciate 0
      02-26-2018, 11:07 AM   #12
Taskmaster
Major General
Taskmaster's Avatar
Japan
1836
Rep
8,088
Posts

Drives: E92 LCI Msport 6 Speed
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Florida

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z3SpdDmn View Post
I just swapped to the 3SI with Turner intake tube this weekend. The car had a BMW Performance Intake and Exhaust and BMS PBX already. 3.64 LSD will be going in next weekend, too.

Considering that I may do a header and MILV later down the road, the BPC tune might be the better route... I'll keep investigating. I don't need the last couple hp if there's any possibility of sacrificing reliability, so that's mainly what I'll be investigating - if there have been any problems with the tune thus far.

Thanks!
No issues.
__________________
Axiom - E92 Msport 6MT: Bolt ons - MILV - BPC tune.
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2018, 09:28 AM   #13
wolfe
Lieutenant
wolfe's Avatar
64
Rep
579
Posts

Drives: 128i M-Sport
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: USA

iTrader: (1)

Can't speak to the AA tune as I've no experience with it.

I've been very happy with the BPC tune. 3 stage manifold, intake, & AA headers. Bob & the team at BPC really know what they're doing.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
e82 128, n52, tune

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:17 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST