1M production rumored at 60/mo for US

[Impervious]

Originally Posted by RobMason

No need to worry. BMW has stated they will not limit production.

There's money to be had, of course they wont.

[JimBilly]

Originally Posted by Papethova

I dont think anyone will be left with money in their hands at the door

My dealer contacted me confirming limited production of 50 to 60 cars per month for the US.

BMW may not want to turn away orders but they may have no choice. I work in the electonics industry and currently we cannot fill all orders for certain products because we do not have the manufacturing capacity.

And increasing capacity is not something that can be done over night. Equipment needs to be ordered, installed, etc. And it may not be profitable to do so if the product is at the end of it's life.

So BMW is probably going to make every 1M they possibly can but it looks like they cannot satisfy demand. This means that many of us, including some who put down deposits, will unfortunately not be able to purchase one.

[BlackFlash]

Originally Posted by JimBilly

So BMW is probably going to make every 1M they possibly can but it looks like they cannot satisfy demand.

Lol, how did you come to that conclusion?

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by JimBilly

My dealer contacted me confirming limited production of 50 to 60 cars per month for the US.

BMW may not want to turn away orders but they may have no choice. I work in the electonics industry and currently we cannot fill all orders for certain products because we do not have the manufacturing capacity.

And increasing capacity is not something that can be done over night. Equipment needs to be ordered, installed, etc. And it may not be profitable to do so if the product is at the end of it's life.

So BMW is probably going to make every 1M they possibly can but it looks like they cannot satisfy demand. This means that many of us, including some who put down deposits, will unfortunately not be able to purchase one.

I had atleast 40 dealerships agree to my offer near invoice pricing and all of them were eager to get the deal done and not a single one indicated I was in line behind anyone. Granted I had numerous dealers turn me away scoffing at my offer, but that was my experience with the 135 as well.

Im not saying there is no interest in this car, but the interest shown and generated on this webpage is not indicative of the excitement in the real world.

The 1 series in 2008 had a similar feeling and in the months leading up to its release certain dealers were touting it as a special hard to get vehicle. I suspect a few months into release the excitement will have dropped and/or most forum members will have ordered their car.

Id be very surprised if anyone is turned away and told they cant have one by the end of the production run. Simply because I think production numbers will meet or exceed demand. How many 135s do you think are sold every year?

Even if somehow demand exceeded production I dont see BMW saying ok I know there are 200 more people that want it, but we arent going to build anymore.

[JimBilly]

Originally Posted by Papethova

I had atleast 40 dealerships agree to my offer near invoice pricing and all of them were eager to get the deal done and not a single one indicated I was in line behind anyone. Granted I had numerous dealers turn me away scoffing at my offer, but that was my experience with the 135 as well.

Im not saying there is no interest in this car, but the interest shown and generated on this webpage is not indicative of the excitement in the real world.

The 1 series in 2008 had a similar feeling and in the months leading up to its release certain dealers were touting it as a special hard to get vehicle. I suspect a few months into release the excitement will have dropped and/or most forum members will have ordered their car.

Id be very surprised if anyone is turned away and told they cant have one by the end of the production run. Simply because I think production numbers will meet or exceed demand. How many 135s do you think are sold every year?

Even if somehow demand exceeded production I dont see BMW saying ok I know there are 200 more people that want it, but we arent going to build anymore.

I hope you are right. Time wil tell....

[Jaguar66]

Originally Posted by JimBilly

So BMW is probably going to make every 1M they possibly can but it looks like they cannot satisfy demand

They could if they really wanted to, the M3 production satisfies its demand.

This is the definition of limited production in my book.

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by JimBilly

My dealer contacted me confirming limited production of 50 to 60 cars per month for the US.

My dealer confirmed this too, however he said, "I just saw a video saying that production will be limited to 60 cars per month."

This was nearly immediately after this thread was posted. I talked to him for a little after that about the car and he admited that he was following it very closely. It would not be hard to believe that many dealers are just regurgitating what they read on these forums.

I have little reason to believe that many of them actually know the facts.

[NPVPositive]

When you are part of the "forum community" it's very easy to get caught up in the excitement and then the feeling of scarcity and sense of urgency just feeds on itself.

I doubt anyone who wants the car over the next six months and is willing to pay list will get turned away.

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by NPVPositive

When you are part of the "forum community" it's very easy to get caught up in the excitement and then the feeling of scarcity and sense of urgency just feeds on itself.

I doubt anyone who wants the car over the next six months and is willing to pay list will get turned away.

+1, it's easy to lose sight of that when this forum is your homepage though!

[Impervious]

Originally Posted by Augenbrauezug

I have little reason to believe that many of them actually know the facts.

There seems to be a huge disconnect between what goes on at BMW HQ and the dealers. Atleast in my area, the dealers no absolutely nothing about the cars they're selling. They know the pricing/payment info but nothing about the cars themselves. Kind of sad really.

[DiavelM3]

Originally Posted by Impervious

There seems to be a huge disconnect between what goes on at BMW HQ and the dealers. Atleast in my area, the dealers no absolutely nothing about the cars they're selling. They know the pricing/payment info but nothing about the cars themselves. Kind of sad really.

I would have to agree with you there. The dealership here in Colorado has refused deposits up until about a few days ago. Now they are taking deposits but they still seem uncertain about when they will get one or details of the 1M. I even spoke to a different saleman (at the same dealership)to see if they were ALL on the same page. Nope.. The other salesman didnt even know they were taking deposits until the official release of the car. Which he thought was April...

[Drillslinger]

Originally Posted by NPVPositive

I doubt anyone who wants the car over the next six months and is willing to pay list will get turned away.

Unless of course, they're a Military Sales customer

[GeniuneSorny]

Initially we reported the 1M U.S. allocation will run at 60 units per month, but latest rumors say the allocation numbers might slightly increase, more on that in a few days.

They're backing off on that 60/month statement now. Can't wait to see what the actual allocations look like next week.

[dbtheo]

For our sales round table video earlier this week with bmw, I also got the impression that each dealer will only get 2-4 cars period.

Dave

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

For our sales round table video earlier this week with bmw, I also got the impression that each dealer will only get 2-4 cars period.

Dave

Way to light a fire under our asses.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Augenbrauezug

Way to light a fire under our asses.

:-)

actually I'm watching the video again right now, just see if I can better clarified

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

:-)

actually I'm watching the video again right now, just see if I can better clarified

If the above is true then I'm glad I got in at #4. I might still opt to buy a spot or 2 up if I can.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Augenbrauezug

If the above is true then I'm glad I got in at #4. I might still opt to buy a spot or 2 up if I can.

just watched the vid again, here is what is said:
- As of now, this car will only be available for the 2011 model year, no plan for 2012
- an average of 60 to maybe 70 cars per month production
- some dealers will only get 1 car per month, others may get up to 4

Again, they have stressed the fact that it is limited, saying that not every order bank request will be filled.

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

just watched the vid again, here is what is said:
- As of now, this car will only be available for the 2011 model year, no plan for 2012
- an average of 60 to maybe 70 cars per month production
- some dealers will only get 1 car per month, others may get up to 4

Again, they have stressed the fact that it is limited, saying that not every order bank request will be filled.

1 per month? Or one total?

Any word as to how they determine how many a dealer will get? Based on deposits the dealer has taken or the number of cars the dealer sells? I'm guessing it doesn't have to do with deposits but how many cars that dealer sells.

Fortunately my dealer is pretty big.

[GeniuneSorny]

Guess that video is where bmwblog got their info since they quoted the same confusing numbers. 1-4 cars per dealer per month would be a ton. 1-4 total would match the other numbers.

The point about not all orders in the bank being filled is more troubling, though. I wonder if that means all orders put in the bank throughout the year or if it means all orders curently in the bank.

[dmanges]

My dealer is asking for 7-8, 4 for preorders and a couple for the lot. They are hoping to get the preorders filled.

[DiavelM3]

Originally Posted by JimBilly

So BMW is probably going to make every 1M they possibly can but it looks like they cannot satisfy demand. This means that many of us, including some who put down deposits, will unfortunately not be able to purchase one.

I see what you're saying but I still think it is too early to make assumptions. The fact that this car has many M3 components tells me that they dont need to manufacture "new" components but perhaps use existing? I dont know what BMW has in store for this car and it seems, that they dont really either? Perhaps all this advertising about its limited productivity is just to try to get more excitement out of potential buyers and to spread the word?

I remember when Chrysler came out with their "Crossfire" for the first time. Remember this car? It was built on a Mercedes SLK chassis, suspension etc etc.... Anyway, they hyped up this car so much that they "thought" they had a pot of gold (big seller). I remember pulling into the dealership one time, with my '84 Ferrari 308 GTSI. They had one of these crossfires in the showroom. I expressed interest (yes they saw me pull up in the Fcar), and they wouldnt let me take the crossfire out unless I had a deposit. They acted like this was a brand new Bugatti Veyron!
Anyway, 8-10 months pass and they couldnt give these cars away.... They practically begged me to come back to test drive and "hopefully" purchase the car... Pffft, I was over it. Thanks anyway but this car wasn't everything Chrysler made it out to be.. Not saying this about the BMW but my point being, lets wait and see what time will tell? Some of you may be right about what you've heard. But, the flip side being, you might be wrong too... Guess we'll have to wait and see