Autocar: Britain's Best Driver's Car 2011 - Randy Pobst may be right after all!

[GoingTooFast]

So, from a technical brilliance point of view down to a greater sense of passion, judging by the majority of the forum opinions and by Autocar's classification, we have the following order:


Sense of Passion -> less.............................................. ........................greater

........................................Cayman R > Cayman S > BMW M3 > BMW 1M

.............................greater.............. .................................................. .less<- Technical Brilliance




I kinda like this classification... I think it's accurate in a certain sense.


From a merely rational point of view the better car for daily-drive will be the one that exhibts the best balance between the two extremes. That would be:

Either the Cayman S (2 seater) or the BMW M3 (four seater)


As a Cayman owner, I knew I liked this classification... As a BMW 'fanboy', well... I like the 'little one' more.

[GoingTooFast]

Randy Pobst's main focus is on the the technical brilliance which is what counts on the track. So, that is also his own classification. No wonder he 'hated' the 1M!

[vantagesc]

Way too many contradictions in logic in this thread.

Originally Posted by GoingTooFast

Cayman R > Cayman S > BMW M3 > BMW 1M

I disagree with you that the Cayman R has less "passion" than the Cayman S (and many other things). It's a more involving car to drive, at least in part due to its more focused setup. Passion and technical brilliance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive (see Ferrari 458). To give another extreme, a VW Passat has neither technical brilliance, nor passion.

[GoingTooFast]

Originally Posted by vantagesc

Passion and technical brilliance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive (see Ferrari 458).

None is saying they are. Those that have both in equal great measure are the VERY special cars.

Originally Posted by vantagesc

To give another extreme, a VW Passat has neither technical brilliance, nor passion.

Those are truly the bad cars.

Originally Posted by vantagesc

I disagree with you that the Cayman R has less "passion" than the Cayman S (and many other things). It's a more involving car to drive, at least in part due to its more focused setup.

Is the Cayman R truly special then?! Autocar says it is... better than the GT3 RS.

[MrRoboto]

An old colleague of mine used to have a saying...'when the horse is dead, dismount'.

[GoingTooFast]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

An old colleague of mine used to have a saying...'when the horse is dead, dismount'.

So why are you still beating in it?


You say this:

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

If you want to know how the 1M is as a drivers car ask one of us who live with it daily on and off track and have experience with other cars to compare. (real world cars, not $200k McLaren's)

Also don't pay too much attention to those on the forum who haven't even seen a 1M in person let alone drive on but choose to make judgements on the cars abilities based on a magazine.

Then you readly post a link to a magazine review that, by mere coincidence of course , is very favorable to the 1M. Not that it was important:

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

http://www.**************.com/intern...udi-tt-rs.html