BMW 1M Coupe Partially Unveiled at Oktoberfest! [INFO, VIDEO & PHOTOS]

[grant]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was a Prototype with M-DCT built for evaluation alongside the manuals , unfortunately because this is a (for M) a very cost effective project the costs threatened to spiral out of control in terms for the inclusion of an M DCT. There is also the time factor running against. Had we done this earlier then we would have had the time to accomodate.

With the introduction of the next generation 1er hatch less than twelve months away . The strategy is to take the 1M further away from the hatch so that both cars will be individually distinguished. or in simple form? The 1M is an M car .
We are looking at a life span of just over 2 years for the 1M , the only reason for the go-ahead was to produce something that can be made quickly by using off the shelf parts.

What we are looking at is since the first official video introduction is that serious interest is now over 10,000, it initially depends on the reaction and if there is demand. If BMW discover that there is demand for such a car then they might try to accomodate , it all depends on the outcome. For which there is no definite answer at this time.

Although because there is more time for the engineers , the next generation
1M which will arrive in 2014 will be engineered to accept both transmissions.

Cool - This car deserves a proper manual gearbox - thanks for the info

[niuniu]

Thanks for that Scott26, although I was under the impression we only had 1 year to put in an order for the 1M. Your post indicates 2. Perhaps I've missed something and gotten mixed up, would be easy, I've had a few drinks this Saturday

[Cameraeye]

Scott26 we love you!

[SCOTT26]

Thanks for that Scott26, although I was under the impression we only had 1 year to put in an order for the 1M. Your post indicates 2. Perhaps I've missed something and gotten mixed up, would be easy, I've had a few drinks this Saturday

The reason for that is because the new 1er Sporthatch for Europe debuts next year that everyone is presuming the Coupe is replaced at the same time or immediately afterwards.

The Coupe in E82 will be kept on in Production until early 2013.
The 1M is one reason for this , the main reason is because the BMW electric car evaluation programme (as seen with the MINI E) uses the 1er Coupe model. Like the MINI E, BMW will lease out 1er Coupe eDrive models to many countries to earn feedback on the first series electric BMW.
The programme will be spread to key countries across the globe.

The Cabrio is contracted to built until 2013 also.

The next generation 1er Coupe will be launched in late 2012,
The next generation 1er Cabrio will be launched in mid 2013.
The next generation 1M will be launched in 2014.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Scott (or anyone who has been following this more closely than I), what can you say about the availability of this car in North America? Is mid-2011 through late 2013 a fair estimate?

[eugegall]

Scott sorry to ask the same question over and over! Please can you confirm the UK release date?

[niuniu]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The reason for that is because...

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Really great info, thanks for clearing that up!


I guess now this also takes the pressure over thinking we might have trouble purchasing a 1M in time, or have to pay over sticker. I'm very happy personally to hear of it's production up to 2013!

[SCOTT26]

I would say the car will be on the market for just over a year and a half.

The UK launch will be after Spring.

[Smokey]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was a Prototype with M-DCT built for evaluation alongside the manuals , unfortunately because this is a (for M) a very cost effective project the costs threatened to spiral out of control in terms for the inclusion of an M DCT. There is also the time factor running against. Had we done this earlier then we would have had the time to accomodate.

With the introduction of the next generation 1er hatch less than twelve months away . The strategy is to take the 1M further away from the hatch so that both cars will be individually distinguished. or in simple form? The 1M is an M car .
We are looking at a life span of just over 2 years for the 1M , the only reason for the go-ahead was to produce something that can be made quickly by using off the shelf parts.

What we are looking at is since the first official video introduction is that serious interest is now over 10,000, it initially depends on the reaction and if there is demand. If BMW discover that there is demand for such a car then they might try to accomodate , it all depends on the outcome. For which there is no definite answer at this time.

Although because there is more time for the engineers , the next generation
1M which will arrive in 2014 will be engineered to accept both transmissions.

Gotta love marketing lingo,

[ORIGIN M.]

So nooo DCT at all, or just no M-DCT...???

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was a Prototype with M-DCT built for evaluation alongside the manuals , unfortunately because this is a (for M) a very cost effective project the costs threatened to spiral out of control in terms for the inclusion of an M DCT. There is also the time factor running against. Had we done this earlier then we would have had the time to accomodate.

With the introduction of the next generation 1er hatch less than twelve months away . The strategy is to take the 1M further away from the hatch so that both cars will be individually distinguished. or in simple form? The 1M is an M car .
We are looking at a life span of just over 2 years for the 1M , the only reason for the go-ahead was to produce something that can be made quickly by using off the shelf parts.

What we are looking at is since the first official video introduction is that serious interest is now over 10,000, it initially depends on the reaction and if there is demand. If BMW discover that there is demand for such a car then they might try to accomodate , it all depends on the outcome. For which there is no definite answer at this time.

Although because there is more time for the engineers , the next generation
1M which will arrive in 2014 will be engineered to accept both transmissions.

[Jaguar66]

Originally Posted by southlight

As added to the first post:


Some more details per bimmerfile.com:

• The 1M will be manual transmission only

Best regards,
south

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was a Prototype with M-DCT built for evaluation alongside the manuals , unfortunately because this is a (for M) a very cost effective project the costs threatened to spiral out of control in terms for the inclusion of an M DCT. There is also the time factor running against. Had we done this earlier then we would have had the time to accomodate.

With the introduction of the next generation 1er hatch less than twelve months away . The strategy is to take the 1M further away from the hatch so that both cars will be individually distinguished. or in simple form? The 1M is an M car .
We are looking at a life span of just over 2 years for the 1M , the only reason for the go-ahead was to produce something that can be made quickly by using off the shelf parts.

What we are looking at is since the first official video introduction is that serious interest is now over 10,000, it initially depends on the reaction and if there is demand. If BMW discover that there is demand for such a car then they might try to accomodate , it all depends on the outcome. For which there is no definite answer at this time.

Although because there is more time for the engineers , the next generation
1M which will arrive in 2014 will be engineered to accept both transmissions.

So its rather official, for now and the forseeable future, no DCT transmission, only a manual transmission.

That is how I interpret these statements.

[Future M1 owner]

Put me in the "slightly disappointed" colum as well, for lack of the DCT option. Like others, I would have assumed no extraordinary feats of engineering required, as the DCT is already coupled with both the N54 and N55.

If only BMW went the way of the auto-revmatching full manual transmission as on a 370Z...

[niuniu]

How come you guys don't want a manual? I never hear anyone say they want an auto here (UK). Don't you enjoy it or do you think it's too slow?

[EINSER M]

exclusion of DCT in the first production run of the 1M is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

[ORIGIN M.]

If you don't want it, then why do even care?

Originally Posted by kirkx5m

exclusion of DCT in the first production run of the 1M is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

[TunedM2C]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I would say the car will be on the market for just over a year and a half.

The UK launch will be after Spring.

Do you have an estimate of how many units will be built? This could be a nice collector M due to the short production run.

[niuniu]

Originally Posted by mvaccaro

It's just that in the US in some places it's just a hassle having to clutch every 10secs cause you have a 2 miles traffic jam....

I understand that you get the feeling you get more control with the manual but there is no way you will shift faster than a computer and even less with dual clutches...

Yeah heavy traffic is a pain in the rear end

I think if I bought two 1Ms, this first would be a manual just for the sheer fun and rawness of it, and then I'd probably go for the M DCT in 2014/2015 as I'd really want to max it's performance. Probably, depending on the figures.

[grant]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

If you don't want it, then why do even care?

I'm pleased since it will position the car more as one for true driving enthusiasts.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by RobMason

So its rather official, for now and the forseeable future, no DCT transmission, only a manual transmission.

That is how I interpret these statements.

Yes, I'd say so.

Originally Posted by Future M1 owner

Put me in the "slightly disappointed" colum as well, for lack of the DCT option. Like others, I would have assumed no extraordinary feats of engineering required, as the DCT is already coupled with both the N54 and N55.

As far as the E82 is concerned, DCT was never coupled with the N54.


Best regards,
south

[niuniu]

Did you guys see this? A guy on another forum (GCF) spotted it not so long ago
Looks like the bonnet might have something interesting going on.

[southlight]

They're clearly covering something up there. Actually, it reminds me of the disguise for the E9x M3 hood back then.


Best regards,
south

[Dackelone]

I want one of those retro BMW jackets!!!