135 in slalom vs SUVs

[MOCKBA]

I really was enjoying reading post that SUV seem more stable than 135 in turns. So I did a little Internet research to find the best SUV, but alas.
The article http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...1270186?page=2

Claims that slalom speed of Acura MDX 40.6mph. Far not best one, when best one is TOYOTA Matrix XRS with 46.0mph. So I guess 135 never will catch Toyota in slalom.

However from other source:
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/1-seri...35i-coupe.html
135 coupe slalom speed is 72.4.

Again slaloms look a bit different 525 FT. vs 6 x 100 ft, but not so different to understand that when you modify your car, be careful and do not make it less stable than SUV.

[WyattHerb]

There was always this...

[3liter1]

Do you mean acura wil not catch XRS in a slalom ?

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

I really was enjoying reading post that SUV seem more stable than 135 in turns. So I did a little Internet research to find the best SUV, but alas.
The article http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...1270186?page=2

Claims that slalom speed of Acura MDX 40.6mph. Far not best one, when best one is TOYOTA Matrix XRS with 46.0mph. So I guess 135 never will catch Toyota in slalom.

However from other source:
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/1-seri...35i-coupe.html
135 coupe slalom speed is 72.4.

Again slaloms look a bit different 525 FT. vs 6 x 100 ft, but not so different to understand that when you modify your car, be careful and do not make it less stable than SUV.

Different reviewers, different tracks... are you serious? The 135i out performed the Caymen.

[Alex_bm]

One is an SUV, the other is 5 door hatch... Why do we compare them?

As a side note, if you are being overtaken by a family hauling SUV, maybe it's time to call the quits, sell the bimmer and get a Prius

Originally Posted by AudiS4

Do you mean acura wil not catch XRS in a slalom ?

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

I really was enjoying reading post that SUV seem more stable than 135 in turns. So I did a little Internet research to find the best SUV, but alas.
The article http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...1270186?page=2

Claims that slalom speed of Acura MDX 40.6mph. Far not best one, when best one is TOYOTA Matrix XRS with 46.0mph. So I guess 135 never will catch Toyota in slalom.

However from other source:
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/1-seri...35i-coupe.html
135 coupe slalom speed is 72.4.

Again slaloms look a bit different 525 FT. vs 6 x 100 ft, but not so different to understand that when you modify your car, be careful and do not make it less stable than SUV.

If you think my final conclusion was that I thought SUV's were more stable turning than the 135i, you didn't read the whole thread. And I'm pretty sure that going in the same direction around an on/offramp is nothing like running a vehicle through a slalom.

[ND40oz]

That article on the SUVs is 8 years old, lot of changes happen over 8 years.

If you want to compare Edmunds numbers, the current gen MDX does the slalom at 62.6 and gets .82 Gs on the skidpad.

http://www.insideline.com/acura/mdx/...acura-mdx.html

Although I'm convinced the drivers at Edmunds aren't as adept at pushing the vehicles to their limits compared to C&D/MT/R&T. C&D has it at .86 Gs on the skidpad. Still, it's not bad considering it was wearing H rated All Seasons, put some sticker rubber under it and you'd be surprised.

[JimD]

I own both a SUV and a 128i. There is no SUV that can stay with me through a slalom in my 128i. If I changed it such that a SUV, even the best one on the planet, could stay with me through a slaloom I would be a complete idiot. They are in totally different categories. As is indicated by the 40mph versus 70mph results cited.

Jim

[Simsims]

saying an keeping up with a 135 in corners
is like saying
a 135 can keep up with an F1 car in corners.

wtf?!

[jeremyc74]

I've chased a Cayenne Turbo around a corkscrew on-ramp, and they're pretty damn impressive for something so big. I wasn't at the absolute limit, and wasn't on great tires, but I was certainly glad to see the road straighten up so I could blow by his ass.

In the real world the 135i can get twitchy in the corners if you're trying to put some power down. If you hit a bump and unsettle the inside tire, it starts spinning, and that leaves all the lateral force on the outside tire.

[crzy4135i]

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

I really was enjoying reading post that SUV seem more stable than 135 in turns. So I did a little Internet research to find the best SUV, but alas.
The article http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...1270186?page=2

Claims that slalom speed of Acura MDX 40.6mph. Far not best one, when best one is TOYOTA Matrix XRS with 46.0mph. So I guess 135 never will catch Toyota in slalom.

However from other source:
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/1-seri...35i-coupe.html
135 coupe slalom speed is 72.4.

Again slaloms look a bit different 525 FT. vs 6 x 100 ft, but not so different to understand that when you modify your car, be careful and do not make it less stable than SUV.

That's on a smooth surface. THe guy who posted the original story has the bmw performance suspension istalled. That suspension is stiffer and makes it that much easier for the rear end to step out if you hit a bump in a turn, or hit the gas. If the offramp (or whatever it was he was driving on) was perfectly smooth I'll bet he would've caught up with the SUV, no problem..

[MOCKBA]

So it was my point, trying to mod car you can get opposite effect than you try to achieve. I can admit that my 135 is extremely stable and it is complete stock. It is stable on wet surface as well. I previously owned Z4 and can tell that on dry surface it feels more confident, however it feels shaky in rain. 135 seems same stable in rain, although it is scary going on the same speed over ramp in rain, not because car starts slipping, just based on previous experience. I guess SUV drivers have the same problem coming from previous models and drive slowly over ramps. If new Acura MDX can do 62mph in slalom then I take my hat off.
Regarding selling 135 and take SUV, I still consider SUV isn’t practical for commute car.

[NYF32DRIVER]

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

I really was enjoying reading post that SUV seem more stable than 135 in turns. So I did a little Internet research to find the best SUV, but alas.
The article http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...1270186?page=2

Claims that slalom speed of Acura MDX 40.6mph. Far not best one, when best one is TOYOTA Matrix XRS with 46.0mph. So I guess 135 never will catch Toyota in slalom.

However from other source:
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/1-seri...35i-coupe.html
135 coupe slalom speed is 72.4.

Again slaloms look a bit different 525 FT. vs 6 x 100 ft, but not so different to understand that when you modify your car, be careful and do not make it less stable than SUV.

BULLSHIT. Plain & Simple.

[KingOfJericho]

Our FX35 feels much more stable in corners than the 1er but that's because it has a very wide stance and very wide tires on 20" wheels with the sport suspension. There is virtually no body roll. Just a very different beast. I would rather take the 135 in the twisties any day of the week.