Cracked charge pipe and sensor? Covered under warranty?

M2 Blur · 10-20-2013, 01:24 PM

Hoping to get clarification on what I am getting back from the BMW service. Car went into limp mode while in WOT 3rd gear. CEL, reduced power.

Brought my 2009 135 MT (currently under CPO warranty only) to BMW service and found the charge pipe was cracked and sensor was damaged (See pic). BMW claims the sensor would not be damaged during driving conditions so I am responsible for replacing the CP and sensor @ $950. The claim is that it would only be damaged if the pipe was removed?

Anyone have their charge pipe crack and damage their sensor at the same time? I want to make sure I am responsible for the replacement cost and if I have a case to get it replaced under CPO warranty.

Any help/input would be amazing!

BBBluey · 10-20-2013, 01:40 PM

My chargepipe popped off and cracked the sensor cover/bent pins. I told the dealership about it and that I put it back on myself and made an appt for them to check it out. They covered the cost...got a new sensor but same pipe. No issues about it.

M2 Blur · 10-20-2013, 01:55 PM

Thanks for the input.

Strange that the mechanic is claiming the sensor housing would not have been damaged if the CP popped off. Sounds like it comes down to if the CP/sensor is covered under my CPO warranty.

Anyone have the sensor housing break?

New21er · 10-20-2013, 05:03 PM

These charge pipes are prone to have problems (plastic) there are a lot of after market metal ones, which can handle the load.

GarrettF · 10-20-2013, 07:40 PM

make an appt at a different dealer

Adam135 · 10-20-2013, 08:27 PM

Call BMW Customer Care, they will contact the dealer and make them cover it. That is total BS.

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Originally Posted by GarrettF

make an appt at a different dealer

Hope the dealer puts everything in a to-go baggie and tow it there?

e36addict · 10-22-2013, 07:33 AM

CPO is pretty strict on what they cover, but an item like this should be covered. And I can most definitely see how that sensor could get damaged from the pipe popping off, and ripping the connector out.. I agree with finding a new BMW Center.

Jettt · 10-22-2013, 07:53 AM

Charge pipe cracking at the plastic weld is really common. Especially if you are running with a tune or mods.

Take this chance and get yourself a nice aftermarket metal one.

M2 Blur · 10-22-2013, 08:41 AM

Thanks everyone for the feed back. That helps a lot!

M2 Blur · 10-23-2013, 06:16 PM

BMW SA and foreman are stating the charge pipe/sensor is not covered under the CPO warranty. Submitting for goodwill to BMWNA. I would have thought this would be covered.

How is this a wear and tear item?

Excerpt from BMW Extended Vehicle Protection (Gold):
Engine & Fuel System: Cylinder head(s),
cylinder block and cylinder head gasket(s). All
internally lubricated parts including: pistons, piston
rings and pins; crankshaft, main and connecting
rod bearings; connecting rods; camshaft and
bearings; timing chains and/or belts; sprockets;
rocker arms and shafts; valves, valve springs,
upper spring plates (retainers); valve collets,
guides, seats, and seals; hydraulic valve clearance
compensators (lifters); oil pump assembly. Dipstick
assembly; vibration damper; flywheel/ring gear;
upper and lower timing case covers and gaskets;
intake manifold and gasket; exhaust manifolds,
engine mounts; valve cover(s) and gasket(s); oil
pan(s) and gasket(s). Front and rear radial oil seats.
(Fuel System): Fuel injectors; fuel pumps; metal
and plastic lines and fittings; fuel tank; fuel injection
and airflow sensors.

10-20-2013, 01:24 PM	#1
M2 Blur Second Lieutenant 126 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	Cracked charge pipe and sensor? Covered under warranty? Hoping to get clarification on what I am getting back from the BMW service. Car went into limp mode while in WOT 3rd gear. CEL, reduced power. Brought my 2009 135 MT (currently under CPO warranty only) to BMW service and found the charge pipe was cracked and sensor was damaged (See pic). BMW claims the sensor would not be damaged during driving conditions so I am responsible for replacing the CP and sensor @ $950. The claim is that it would only be damaged if the pipe was removed? Anyone have their charge pipe crack and damage their sensor at the same time? I want to make sure I am responsible for the replacement cost and if I have a case to get it replaced under CPO warranty. Any help/input would be amazing! Attached Images
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BBBluey Major 77 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vandenberg Village, California iTrader: (7)	My chargepipe popped off and cracked the sensor cover/bent pins. I told the dealership about it and that I put it back on myself and made an appt for them to check it out. They covered the cost...got a new sensor but same pipe. No issues about it.
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10-20-2013, 01:55 PM	#3
M2 Blur Second Lieutenant 126 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	Thanks for the input. Strange that the mechanic is claiming the sensor housing would not have been damaged if the CP popped off. Sounds like it comes down to if the CP/sensor is covered under my CPO warranty. Anyone have the sensor housing break?
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10-20-2013, 05:03 PM	#4
New21er Lieutenant 35 Rep 550 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Stanwood, wa. iTrader: (2)	These charge pipes are prone to have problems (plastic) there are a lot of after market metal ones, which can handle the load.
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GarrettF Former E46Fanatic 13 Rep 284 Posts Drives: 1987 S52 325is Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (3)	make an appt at a different dealer __________________ Current Cars: 1987 E30 325is 1991 E30 325i 1991 E31 850i 2018 G01 X3 2004 B15 Sentra SE-R (daily)
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10-22-2013, 07:33 AM	#7
e36addict Captain 137 Rep 952 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 35iX Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tim @ BMW of Dallas iTrader: (5)	CPO is pretty strict on what they cover, but an item like this should be covered. And I can most definitely see how that sensor could get damaged from the pipe popping off, and ripping the connector out.. I agree with finding a new BMW Center. __________________ 13 X1 35iX, 98 Z3 2.8, 01 M Coupe, 96 Z3 1.9 DASC, 95 318ti, 13 smart fortwo
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10-22-2013, 07:53 AM	#8
Jettt Gun Slinger 28 Rep 344 Posts Drives: slow and with caution Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Charge pipe cracking at the plastic weld is really common. Especially if you are running with a tune or mods. Take this chance and get yourself a nice aftermarket metal one.
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10-22-2013, 08:41 AM	#9
M2 Blur Second Lieutenant 126 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	Thanks everyone for the feed back. That helps a lot!
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10-23-2013, 06:16 PM	#10
M2 Blur Second Lieutenant 126 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	BMW SA and foreman are stating the charge pipe/sensor is not covered under the CPO warranty. Submitting for goodwill to BMWNA. I would have thought this would be covered. How is this a wear and tear item? Excerpt from BMW Extended Vehicle Protection (Gold): Engine & Fuel System: Cylinder head(s), cylinder block and cylinder head gasket(s). All internally lubricated parts including: pistons, piston rings and pins; crankshaft, main and connecting rod bearings; connecting rods; camshaft and bearings; timing chains and/or belts; sprockets; rocker arms and shafts; valves, valve springs, upper spring plates (retainers); valve collets, guides, seats, and seals; hydraulic valve clearance compensators (lifters); oil pump assembly. Dipstick assembly; vibration damper; flywheel/ring gear; upper and lower timing case covers and gaskets; intake manifold and gasket; exhaust manifolds, engine mounts; valve cover(s) and gasket(s); oil pan(s) and gasket(s). Front and rear radial oil seats. (Fuel System): Fuel injectors; fuel pumps; metal and plastic lines and fittings; fuel tank; fuel injection and airflow sensors.
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