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Without getting your panties in a bunch.. given the choice, you would not have wanted the ///m division to have engineered the parts specifically for the m coupe?
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i agree for the guy who already owns a 135. my deal was i went to go buy a 135 about a year ago and ended up taking my money back when i found out about the 1M. When i found out the price of the 1M it was clear that was the car i would purchase. I would have upgraded the brakes, wheels, susupension, software and even added a LSD on the 135 so as it stands i am now getting all that from the factory with a factory warranty for less than the price of the total monies i would have spent. plus i am getting a wide body kit that looks bad ass! everyone says it should have a norm asp engine or a special m engine, i say f that. a twin turbo charged 6 has sooo much potential! if you really want to get deep with it, this is bmws first attempt at the new upcoming m3. this is their first turbo charged m car.
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FJUNO, i understand where you are coming from however dont think the M division did not test the shit out of this car before coming to market with it.
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Its not that the car ISN'T good...many are saying that it isn't enough of a separation from the 135i. You DO realize this is the first M-badged car in the last 25 years without a true M gmbh sourced engine??? That in and of itself is disappointing.....seriously the suspension stuff was figured out by people on this forum looong before this 1M came out (Berk, HPAuto, etc, etc..). C'mon man...its simple...some people are sheep |
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like I said, I would not be surprised if the next gen 1 series perform real close or even beat this thing.
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Far better? That 0.3 sec to 60mph and the 0.1 sec in the 1/4mile does not equal far better...sorry (esp. against an even lightly tuned N54 135i ie, SSTT). The LSD is better but your other points are a push.
its not just the LSD. you said yourself you want the wide body. the wide body allows you to run a larger/wider tire which will in turn make the car handle better. the suspension itself has beeter components. the brakes from the 1M are also better than that of current 135. the LSD is a given. the tranny and those parts are not the same at all. the cooling hardware is not the same also. the only thing similar is the power plant and i bet you i can get more power out of a chiped 1m than a chiped 135. |
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Try slapping on aftermarket LSD, Suspension, Wheels, Wide Body Kit, Tune/Software, Brakes, Cooling with a 4 year warranty + labor to install and the cost easily surpasses the 1M.
I can see where people are coming from though, the 1M feels kind of rushed, sort of like a 135i + M3 parts bin + an already existent engine slapped on. How they managed to add all that stuff and keep the weight at 3,300 lb w/ all the safety regulations is beyond me though. Also, remember the car is stock, you can still tune the 1M.
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..What I am saying is to EXISTING 135i owners it is NOT that huge of a jump...trust me it isn't...only things I don't have is the LSD, wide-body, and M3 susp. bits(and those parts are a "push" because the are readily available for existing 135i's)....instead of buying a brand new 1M I could get those parts at a fraction of the 1M's cost (yes i am fully aware of the no-warranty aspect...). Already have the performance bumper kit which has the brake cooling built in. Remember guys I don't think it is bad...but it isn't enough of an improvement for me to sell the One I have (pun intended) just based on performance numbers. On a sid |
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sorry, i should have said somewhat recent m car. as far as the engine is concerned, i understand where people are coming from. i just think that the n54 is a great engine and for a limited production car it would make no sense to create a brand new engine. if they did the car would not cost what it does. i think a twin turbo charged 6 is a great power plant and i am pretty excited to drive it.
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Im on my 3rd fuel pump (counting the original), and I have under 10k miles on my clock.
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^^^That sucks man...I am still on my original (MY2008) with over 50k miles on the odo....
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the e30 m3 was turbo charged? really?
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Luckily, I have not have any other problems... Either way, I would never own an n54 out of warranty. 3 people I personally know with this engine and a total of 8 fuel pumps.
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yeah man, i am a little worried about this as well. is the HPFP something that the factory warranty will cover?
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You can't mod your way to an M car. That is also true for this car. You'd have to sink a ton of money into your 135i to get to near-1M performance and even then you wouldn't have the widebody.
For all those who are scratching your heads over this, take into consideration that this car costs less (MSRP) than a 335is. Here in Canada, at least, it costs the same as a 335i. And for that you're in a slightly smaller car but with a massive performance advantage. It's a good deal. Don't bother comparing to other cheaper cars, because it's a BMW and we already know we spend more than these cars are technically worth.
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You have to wait for BMW to acknowledge you via letter. If buying, and planning on keeping for a long time, I would be more than just a "little worried".
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Apparently you can since that is what M gmbh has apparently done....did you even read the article? Have you even seen what is being done with the modded 135i's on this site? LSD...been done, Wide body...been done, M3 suspension parts (wishbones, various links, bushings, swaybars) been done....I ONCE AGAIN reiterate....for EXISTING 135i owners this is not a BIG jump in performance...at least not IMHO....
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