supercharge 128i

Swimjim · 09-22-2013, 09:07 AM

hi:
i was wondering if anyone knows if the supercharger kit for an e85 z4 would be applicable for an e82 128i?

thanks.

mechavore884 · 09-22-2013, 12:41 PM

granted FI would be an interesting choice for the 128i, Im confident the block and compression isn't ready to handle any form of FI (however I could be wrong). Most people on this side of the forum would probably flame and start aiming towards the DISA manifold/Header/Tune route

3002 tii · 09-22-2013, 02:25 PM

Z4 kits are only for m54 and s54. Only ARMA offers a n52 kit and the one guy who installed ended up wrecking his motor and ARMA said SOL to the guy.

TheSt|G · 09-22-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 Tii

Z4 kits are only for m54 and s54. Only ARMA offers a n52 kit and the one guy who installed ended up wrecking his motor and ARMA said SOL to the guy.

Bingo.

FI is a terrible idea for the N52. It simply isn't designed for that kind of heat.

631twentyeighteye · 09-22-2013, 04:03 PM

yup, You want FI you gotta get the n54 or n55.

flinchy · 09-23-2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mechavore884

granted FI would be an interesting choice for the 128i, Im confident the block and compression isn't ready to handle any form of FI (however I could be wrong). Most people on this side of the forum would probably flame and start aiming towards the DISA manifold/Header/Tune route

absolutely no reason it couldn't take 6psi or more with the right tune and octane.. the block/bottom end isn't made of glass.. just add an oil cooler for temp concerns. easy.

however, the real answer: cheaper to swap in an N54, let alone find a cheap 135i...

heck, you could swap an S65 for the same money.

mechavore884 · 09-23-2013, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

absolutely no reason it couldn't take 6psi or more with the right tune and octane.. the block/bottom end isn't made of glass.. just add an oil cooler for temp concerns. easy.

however, the real answer: cheaper to swap in an N54, let alone find a cheap 135i...

heck, you could swap an S65 for the same money.

nonetheless my point was that its not recommended, personally I would feel more confident if it were rebuilt

flinchy · 09-23-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mechavore884

nonetheless my point was that its not recommended, personally I would feel more confident if it were rebuilt

biggest drawback would be the 10.7:1 CR, you can't really go too far on it without getting into issues

well, that and programming the stock ECU (it's quite possible to put in a standalone)

kobeballer96 · 09-23-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 Tii

Z4 kits are only for m54 and s54. Only ARMA offers a n52 kit and the one guy who installed ended up wrecking his motor and ARMA said SOL to the guy.

that being said the motor would of been fine, if it wasn't for a crappy sc design spitting fragments into the head of the motor. i believe there is still hope. if you read the thread they said the engine was running just fine. one guy actually removed the kit because he didn't want his to fail and cause damage to the engine. not because it couldn't handle it but because the kit was made from cheap metal.

Swimjim · 09-24-2013, 10:33 AM

thanks everyone. was just being curious as i surfed around websites.

lowbudgethero · 09-24-2013, 10:52 AM

swap s54 into the 128i if you really want the project or otherwise just buy a 135i

MightyMouseTech · 09-24-2013, 11:56 AM

Why go through all the hassle doing FI when BMW already built one?

kobeballer96 · 09-24-2013, 12:46 PM

im just going to wait a few years when this car has miles on it and put a LS3 engine in it and call it a day.

631twentyeighteye · 09-24-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kobeballer96

im just going to wait a few years when this car has miles on it and put a LS3 engine in it and call it a day.

I always thought once my car is a track rat, and the motor gives out, i might toss in an sr20 or an rb25. That'd be a fun track car imho.

mechavore884 · 09-24-2013, 03:33 PM

an SR would be INTERESTING lol

TheSt|G · 09-24-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lowbudgethero

swap s54 into the 128i if you really want the project or otherwise just buy a 135i

S85 would be the more logical and easier choice seeing as we are on a modified E9x chassis running that generation of ECU.

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Why go through all the hassle doing FI when BMW already built one?

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by kobeballer96

im just going to wait a few years when this car has miles on it and put a LS3 engine in it and call it a day.

You lose DD'abilty though.

jameshtruong · 09-24-2013, 10:26 PM

coming from a family of 3 MKIV supras im just going to drop a 2JZ when my motor pops

mikal7 · 09-25-2013, 11:59 PM

Ditto on the non BMW engine swap. Either a new ford v8 or a 1jz bottom / 2zj head with a full standalone. 500hp or bust.

but that's a long way away...

TheSt|G · 09-26-2013, 08:24 AM

So none of you want AC and the like? Why not just buy an E36 shell for such things? Significantly cheaper starting point.

Obioban · 09-26-2013, 09:40 AM

Non BMW engine/ecu means...
Not street legal in most states
loss of DSC
likely loss of ABS
almost certainly loss of climate control/AC

Why start with a compromised luxury car platform, again? Compromise everything you gain from the chassis and end up with no benefits over something simpler/purer. Better to get a car designed around an engine, be happy with the engine you have, or (if you must engine swap) use a BMW engine to keep it legal/systems beyond the engine functioning.

People love to talk about how great LSX/2JZ/____ swaps are, but the reality is that they ruin the car for anything other than race use, 99% of the time.

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mechavore884 Lieutenant 35 Rep 528 Posts Drives: the fat mobile Join Date: May 2013 Location: NOVA iTrader: (3)	granted FI would be an interesting choice for the 128i, Im confident the block and compression isn't ready to handle any form of FI (however I could be wrong). Most people on this side of the forum would probably flame and start aiming towards the DISA manifold/Header/Tune route
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mikal7 Private First Class 10 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 128i / Rx7 Turbo Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Ditto on the non BMW engine swap. Either a new ford v8 or a 1jz bottom / 2zj head with a full standalone. 500hp or bust. but that's a long way away...
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