Push button, hamster not home...

SimonB · 11-23-2008, 04:18 PM

Hi guys,

A couple of times (literally), I've pushed the start button and, while the ignition starts, the engine doesn't. Initially, I thought it may be a symptom of the fuel pump issue, but it doesn't crank, it just does nothing (dash lights up, last night the headlights came on).

A couple more tries and all is good, starts straight away. Anyone else had this happen to them?

Once was last week and the 2nd time last night.

cam2801 · 11-23-2008, 05:31 PM

We had this happen on our 130i. We took it back to BMW, they did the old ECU tinkering thing they tend to do when you have these kind problems and hey presto fixed. The fact that they did not bat an eyelid when we raised the issue and they fixed in double quick time suggests that the problem is a reoccurring one.

amk2912 · 11-23-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonB

Hi guys,

A couple of times (literally), I've pushed the start button and, while the ignition starts, the engine doesn't. Initially, I thought it may be a symptom of the fuel pump issue, but it doesn't crank, it just does nothing (dash lights up, last night the headlights came on).

A couple more tries and all is good, starts straight away. Anyone else had this happen to them?

Once was last week and the 2nd time last night.

This happens to me a fair bit. I get the key with a slash symbol and the ding dong. I wait a few seconds and try again and it generally starts. A couple of times I've had to pull the fob out and plug it in the dash before anything happens. It has put me off comfort access, as a result.

professor · 11-23-2008, 09:19 PM

same thing used to happen with my 120i occasionally, but i never bothered taking it to the dealer since it worked if i kept the button depressed for a tad longer anyway.

SimonB · 11-23-2008, 10:01 PM

amk2912, no, it's not that. That's when CA hasn't detected the fob. Has happened to me once or twice, but the benefits of CA outweigh that (for me anyway). This was different, no key with slash, think I got ding-dong, but that was seatbelt if I recall correctly. Will see how it goes and mention it when I take it in for the first service.

jcw2006aus · 11-24-2008, 04:24 AM

I have had this happen, I thought it was that I didnt have the clutch fully engaged? since noticing I make sure the clutch is fully engaged and no problem! just a thought.....

AussieRacer · 11-24-2008, 04:31 AM

Happened to me a more than a few times with both the 120 and 135. Each time I think I haven't depressed the pedal enough. In the 135 the pedal can sometimes be rock hard which means I don't think I've moved the pedal enough. As essentially what is happening is the same thing as if you didn't have the pedal depressed - turns ignition on only.

So next time it happens try pressing the clutch pedal or brake pedal a bit further to prove my theory right or wrong.

Alext · 11-24-2008, 04:22 PM

Yes it happens if you release the clutch pedal too quickly or not fully depress it.

amk2912 · 11-24-2008, 04:40 PM

Umm...wots a clutch pedal??!! :wink:

kameleon · 11-26-2008, 01:30 AM

on auto cars it's the same with the brake pedal not being pressed firmly enough, though bmw have had the one way valve on the brake booster cause non start issues on 1's and 3's lately.

135iUSN · 11-26-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieRacer

Happened to me a more than a few times with both the 120 and 135. Each time I think I haven't depressed the pedal enough. In the 135 the pedal can sometimes be rock hard which means I don't think I've moved the pedal enough. As essentially what is happening is the same thing as if you didn't have the pedal depressed - turns ignition on only.

So next time it happens try pressing the clutch pedal or brake pedal a bit further to prove my theory right or wrong.

OH, I agree - especially on cold mornings - dang have to really press on it... both feet

(kidding)

11-23-2008, 04:18 PM	#1
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cam2801 Private First Class 5 Rep 156 Posts Drives: 09 135i M Sport Space Grey Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E82 135i M Sport [9.00]	We had this happen on our 130i. We took it back to BMW, they did the old ECU tinkering thing they tend to do when you have these kind problems and hey presto fixed. The fact that they did not bat an eyelid when we raised the issue and they fixed in double quick time suggests that the problem is a reoccurring one.
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professor Major 46 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	same thing used to happen with my 120i occasionally, but i never bothered taking it to the dealer since it worked if i kept the button depressed for a tad longer anyway.
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SimonB 135 to 335 M Sport to X3 30d M Sport 164 Rep 1,788 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 30d, optioned up! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia iTrader: (0)	amk2912, no, it's not that. That's when CA hasn't detected the fob. Has happened to me once or twice, but the benefits of CA outweigh that (for me anyway). This was different, no key with slash, think I got ding-dong, but that was seatbelt if I recall correctly. Will see how it goes and mention it when I take it in for the first service. __________________ 2018 X3 30d, Carbon Black Metallic, M Sport Package, Panorama glass sunroof, Lumbar support, Instrument panel in Sensatec, Ambient Lightning, Harmon Kardon Surround Sound , Dynamic Damper Control
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jcw2006aus Private First Class 6 Rep 136 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I have had this happen, I thought it was that I didnt have the clutch fully engaged? since noticing I make sure the clutch is fully engaged and no problem! just a thought.....
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11-24-2008, 04:31 AM	#7
AussieRacer Major 24 Rep 1,058 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Aust iTrader: (0)	Happened to me a more than a few times with both the 120 and 135. Each time I think I haven't depressed the pedal enough. In the 135 the pedal can sometimes be rock hard which means I don't think I've moved the pedal enough. As essentially what is happening is the same thing as if you didn't have the pedal depressed - turns ignition on only. So next time it happens try pressing the clutch pedal or brake pedal a bit further to prove my theory right or wrong. __________________ Current: 135i Auto, Le Mans Blue - w/ Bridgestone RE-11 rears, GP Thunder 7500k angels, & "golf tee" mod plus a few M3 suspension bits and pieces...
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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	Yes it happens if you release the clutch pedal too quickly or not fully depress it.
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11-24-2008, 04:40 PM	#9
amk2912 Lieutenant Colonel 87 Rep 1,663 Posts Drives: '10 X5 40d & '12 F10 520d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth iTrader: (0)	Umm...wots a clutch pedal??!! :wink: __________________ 2012 BMW F10 520d M-Sport 2010 BMW E70 X5 xdrive40d
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11-26-2008, 01:30 AM	#10
kameleon New Member 1 Rep 9 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2008 iTrader: (0)	on auto cars it's the same with the brake pedal not being pressed firmly enough, though bmw have had the one way valve on the brake booster cause non start issues on 1's and 3's lately.
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