Scion FR-S vs. My 128i convertible

[kobeballer96]

Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

agreed. People say oooh bimmer.... not ooooh scion.

If you bought your car based on what people would think, you got the car for the wrong reasons. Just saying LOL. Get what YOU like

[TheSt|G]

I guess the full disclosure would be saying that I had a BRZ at the same time as the 128i.

It has its good qualities, but it isn't anywhere near the overall package.

[pj.rodriguez]

Originally Posted by kobeballer96

If you bought your car based on what people would think, you got the car for the wrong reasons. Just saying LOL. Get what YOU like

I never bought the car because I cared about what people thought of me. I'm not at all like that. I was just saying that because it is what I've observed.

The car is absolute beauty of a machine and I'm not the one to buy it for the logo. I'm never letting this car go. I don't think many people on this forum bought the car for the logo. It is an enthusiasts car and will soon be a classic.

Talk to some of the 3-series guys and I'm sure they'll tell you of a lot of people that buy the car for the looks and some boost in ego or something.

[kobeballer96]

Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

I never bought the car because I cared about what people thought of me. I'm not at all like that. I was just saying that because it is what I've observed.

The car is absolute beauty of a machine and I'm not the one to buy it for the logo. I'm never letting this car go. I don't think many people on this forum bought the car for the logo. It is an enthusiasts car and will soon be a classic.

Talk to some of the 3-series guys and I'm sure they'll tell you of a lot of people that buy the car for the looks and some boost in ego or something.

True! Very true and I'm glad I got mine! I was looking at three series and had a tight budget and the sells man showed me the 1er and I fell in love lol. The price tag was out of my budget but I made it work! I wasn't even looking for one. It was a accident waiting to happen. A good one of course!

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by MarkkyyMan

What is your list of mods? Looks like it should be a good race, let us know the results.

See here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=946030

[chris82]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Those diamond plate panels always dislodge when your manifold over heats from too much boost in your 7 speed gearbox.

This error keeps coming up on my laptop which is hooked up to my car's turbo 8 spd DCT computer, I'll never figure it out

[Stupenal]

I strongly considered the FRS/BRZ prior to buying my 128i. In fact, it wasn't until I thoroughly read every FRS article and test drove it a couple of times when I saw one article saying the closest competitor would be a 128i.

Thoughts regarding the FRS/BRZ:

Pros
1. Great handling car. Very light and nimble and overall fun to drive. The sensation of speed (rather than actual speed) is remarkable since you're sitting just about a foot over the ground. 50 mph felt like 80.
2. Toyota reliability. I wouldn't be surprised if the overall long term cost of owning the car is somewhere in line with buying a Toyota Camry.
3. Beautiful style. Especially with the HIDs and DRLs of the BRZ (plus I like the BRZ spoiler). Add in some red tail light vinyl tint/wrap and it makes the car absolutely stunning.

Example


Cons:
1. Steering feel is okay. Nothing great
2. Engine sounds terrible. The intake piping of sound just is no thanks.
3. Lack of torque. Yeah the lightweight chassis and flat 4 with low cg makes a great handling experience....but I enjoy a wee bit of torque.
4. The interior. This was probably one of the biggest deal breakers. The rear seat is impossible, no space to seat any humans. The quality of materials used were blegh, and the lack of sound deadening for a everyday car just makes it something that'd drive me mad after awhile.
5. The handling. It's both a pro and con - the con is that the car rides a bit rough on uneven roads.
6. Boy racer. If I were 22 and in college, or even better yet 16 and in high school. But not for me today.

[GuamX1]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I guess the full disclosure would be saying that I had a BRZ at the same time as the 128i.

It has its good qualities, but it isn't anywhere near the overall package.

[Blacksport]

My brother has one...it's a pretty cool car; the thing gets a LOT of attention....he did the same as I did for exhaust, basically nixed the back mufflers for straight thru; it sounds sweet...I just recently installed 6 piston Wilwoods on the front; they are fantastic looking and immediately up the cool factor times 3 at least....never raced him, but he's probably not too far behind...

[JimD]

What I don't understand about the BRZ is why they don't throw the turbo motor from the WRX into it. Seems like an easy way to make it very fast for the money.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by JimD

What I don't understand about the BRZ is why they don't throw the turbo motor from the WRX into it. Seems like an easy way to make it very fast for the money.

Because the creator of the BRZ understands(and has expressly said multiple times) that turbos ruin driver's cars.

That said, it definitely could use more oomph.

[631twentyeighteye]

i hear that bolting on the vortech helps things along nicely.

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Blacksport

I just recently installed 6 piston Wilwoods on the front; they are fantastic looking and immediately up the cool factor times 3 at least....

Didnt know they made the e9x e9x kit. Any photos for us to enjoy?

[pj.rodriguez]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Didnt know they made the e9x e9x kit. Any photos for us to enjoy?

Not e9x. BRZ!

[Suprgnat]

Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

Not e9x. BRZ!

They do make a kit for the E9x.

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...axle=Front+Kit

[Blacksport]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Didnt know they made the e9x e9x kit. Any photos for us to enjoy?

Yes, Wilwood makes a complete 6 piston kit with 2-piece rotors with aluminum hats and braided lines....Summit actually had the kit on sale for around $1400 so I grabbed one...the Wilwoods are highly visible thru the stock FRS wheels....they mess with your mind; this can't be a Scion with those massive 6 piston calipers...it's got to be a small Ferrari or maybe that new Corvette!

I'll post a pic next time he brings it to work...

[Blacksport]

While your waiting for a photo of the FRS/Wilwoods, here's a shot of my new Harley V-Rod Muscle to enjoy....Vance & Hines exhaust....

[tehron]

stock auto with normal curb weight should slightly pull on an frs MT

if you emptied your car, and ejected the passenger, i'd assume you would win stock for stock

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Suprgnat

They do make a kit for the E9x.

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...axle=Front+Kit

That's a nice new caliper design. Why did they not make brake pads easy to change..?

[lowbudgethero]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Because the creator of the BRZ understands(and has expressly said multiple times) that turbos ruin driver's cars.

That said, it definitely could use more oomph.

I was always hoping that the 1series would have been a fr-s, brz weighted car with a n52 or similar motor.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by lowbudgethero

I was always hoping that the 1series would have been a fr-s, brz weighted car with a n52 or similar motor.

They are definitely lighter than BMW claims. Mine is ~3030lbs in a mostly stock configuration. If they had used the E60 philosophy and made our entire chassis from aluminum that would have been incredible.

[lowbudgethero]

holy crap that's lighter than my m roadster was, why did bmw have them listed heavier?