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      03-23-2015, 10:17 AM   #155
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When I get in an E92 M3 FSB, I'll compare and let you judge for yourselves.
Ahhh no worries, just ordered the M3 RSFB myself and they are going in next week, very excited, hope they live up to all the hype they get!
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............As mentioned we have the Whiteline RSFB inserts and new replacement bushings to try on this car..............

We'll try to remember to update and provide more info/pics as we go.
Hey Steve, have you installed the redesigned Whiteline rear subframe bushings yet? Curious to hear how you feel they compare to the original design. I am debating between them and the street AKG right now. I have the Defiv lockdown kit and mFactory LSD currently.
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      11-08-2015, 04:54 PM   #157
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Looks like you installed the left guide arm on the right?

Could just be the picture but the guide arm is meant to have the curve facing down if I'm correct?

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Thanks guys....just an update...I was back in there this past week doing my LSD and M3 upper control arms.

RSFB still look like the day I put them in. I actually had to lower the rear part of the subframe to get my rear differential bushing changed and took one of the RSFBs out while I was in there to examine it...looked great.

Here's a couple pics.

M3 (TRW) upper rear control arms in...

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Comparison of stock versus M3

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Rear diff removed and new White Line bushings in..
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      01-23-2017, 10:51 PM   #158
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I noticed the Strongflex ones do not come with the metal washer that goes between the car and the bush.

http://www.strongflex.eu/en/33-e81-e82-e87-e88-04-11
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      01-28-2017, 08:24 PM   #159
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I noticed the Strongflex ones do not come with the metal washer that goes between the car and the bush.

http://www.strongflex.eu/en/33-e81-e82-e87-e88-04-11
They are also 1 piece instead of 2.
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Do the Polyurethane bushings require additional maintenance over time? As in you would need to regrease them every couple of years otherwise they start making noise?
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      04-19-2017, 05:56 PM   #161
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Do the Polyurethane bushings require additional maintenance over time? As in you would need to regrease them every couple of years otherwise they start making noise?
Nope. Not the subframe bushings
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      05-11-2017, 02:07 AM   #162
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How does one determine which way is 'UP' for the PU RSF bushings?
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      06-09-2017, 11:36 PM   #163
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im doing this tomorrow. whats the general concesus as i saw it looked like some people did both rear first and then both front while some did both bushings on the left side and then both bushings on the right side.
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I just installed the nolathane bushing kit in my car. Looks exactly like the whiteline kit and the best thing is I was able to get it shipped with a rear diff bushing kit for under 170. Some things to add on the install:
I didn't have to disconnect any brakelines, just unclipped the sensor cables and the ebrake cable. I didn't have to undo the rear struts. I have a berk street axle back and I had to undo the bolts holding it to the mid pipe to get a little extra clearance. It's a fairly easy install, the bushing goo is messy after you heat them. I can see how it can be tricky manipulating the jacks I think it's a simple enough install that you might as well put in the work for it than just putting in the bushing inserts.
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Thx for the advice! You are correct, you can get enough room without dropping the muffler or disconnecting brake lines if you have two jacks and pay attention. I am jealous of those who are getting the bushing to slide out with heat and the cars weight. Tried it. HAve one rear about 1" out. Won't go more. I am using a heat gun not propane torch...you mentioned "goo"...are you literally melting the bushing? Maybe that's my problem... I may just order the tool tomorrow ($300). Seems like HP Autosport has them "backordered" so I am not sure I can even rent a set. Ironically, I borrow a friends $500 assortment bushing tool set...nothing would work for our cars. Amazing.
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I just installed the nolathane bushing kit in my car. Looks exactly like the whiteline kit and the best thing is I was able to get it shipped with a rear diff bushing kit for under 170. Some things to add on the install:
I didn't have to disconnect any brakelines, just unclipped the sensor cables and the ebrake cable. I didn't have to undo the rear struts. I have a berk street axle back and I had to undo the bolts holding it to the mid pipe to get a little extra clearance. It's a fairly easy install, the bushing goo is messy after you heat them. I can see how it can be tricky manipulating the jacks I think it's a simple enough install that you might as well put in the work for it than just putting in the bushing inserts.
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Thx for the advice! You are correct, you can get enough room without dropping the muffler or disconnecting brake lines if you have two jacks and pay attention. I am jealous of those who are getting the bushing to slide out with heat and the cars weight. Tried it. HAve one rear about 1" out. Won't go more. I am using a heat gun not propane torch...you mentioned "goo"...are you literally melting the bushing? Maybe that's my problem... I may just order the tool tomorrow ($300). Seems like HP Autosport has them "backordered" so I am not sure I can even rent a set. Ironically, I borrow a friends $500 assortment bushing tool set...nothing would work for our cars. Amazing.
I remember having to get the bushing really warm. The bushing itself doesn't have an outer sleeve or anything so it was more about getting the bushing pliable than expanding the subframe with the heat. I'd try concentrating the heat on the bushing with the heat gun or using a torch.
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      08-09-2017, 12:29 AM   #166
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I remember having to get the bushing really warm. The bushing itself doesn't have an outer sleeve or anything so it was more about getting the bushing pliable than expanding the subframe with the heat. I'd try concentrating the heat on the bushing with the heat gun or using a torch.
OK. I'll try that tomorrow night. I was focusing more on the metal.

I just noticed you are in the Seattle area. I am in Kingston! Maybe I should hire you to come supervise this job...
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I caved. Just ordered the tool kit.
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Whew...job done. With the tool it is straightforward, but you do have to disconnect the brake lines so I'll need to bleed the rear brakes tomorrow. Job also caused me to notice another issue...looks like my differential has a minor seal leak. Ug.
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First drive was good. No increase in NVH but nothing dramatically different in feel either. I'll know tomorrow on my drive to work as there is a set of RR tracks where I could really notice the side-to-side shimmy with the stock bushings...
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First drive was good. No increase in NVH but nothing dramatically different in feel either. I'll know tomorrow on my drive to work as there is a set of RR tracks where I could really notice the side-to-side shimmy with the stock bushings...
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First drive was good. No increase in NVH but nothing dramatically different in feel either. I'll know tomorrow on my drive to work as there is a set of RR tracks where I could really notice the side-to-side shimmy with the stock bushings...
Well..... how did it go?! I just ordered mine and looking to install this weekend.
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Well..... how did it go?! I just ordered mine and looking to install this weekend.
No shimmy. Feels a bit more planted, but TBH, not dramatically so. I'll get a better chance to evaluate at the HPDE on the 25th.
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HPDE was great! No issues with the rear. Felt very planted. Glad I did the upgrade.
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Reviving this thread...

As I've been researching the topic of bushings (differential, rear subframe, and transmission), I must say this has been one of, if not the most, useful threads I've came across. A few years later, all the great info that has been posted will help out another enthusiast in 2019, will post my results in here when I tackle the rear suspension eventually
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If it helps, these guys deliver to the USA with free shipping so it makes the powerflex a bit cheaper now
https://powerflexstore.co.uk/bmw/e81...ies-2004-2013/
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If it helps, these guys deliver to the USA with free shipping so it makes the powerflex a bit cheaper now
https://powerflexstore.co.uk/bmw/e81...ies-2004-2013/
Are the Powerflex inserts better than the Whitelines? Whiteline are very inexpensive in the US
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Are the Powerflex inserts better than the Whitelines? Whiteline are very inexpensive in the US
Effectively the same thing.
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