Is Heal and Toe easy / natural on the 1 series?

[halcon1]

I recently drove a 3 series (manual transmission) and didn't find that the pedals were placed in such a way that it would encourage to heal-and-toe downshift.

I haven't driven a 1 series with a manual transmission yet.

Can anyone tell me how good is the size and position of the pedals in the 6 speed manual to heal and toe?

[m3bs]

Works like a charm for me.

[neteagle]

It is the best stock setup for heal & toe operation of any car I have had the pleasure to drive. Of course if you have big feet like me, don't take the "heal and toe" literal. I use half of my foot on the brake pedal and the other half to blip...

[InsaneSkippy]

Originally Posted by neteagle

It is the best stock setup for heal & toe operation of any car I have had the pleasure to drive. Of course if you have big feet like me, don't take the "heal and toe" literal. I use half of my foot on the brake pedal and the other half to blip...

Hey NetEagle good to see you're still on here.

[neteagle]

Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

Hey NetEagle good to see you're still on here.

I am always lurking Wore out my first fuel pump at 6k...too much heal and toeing

[JHZR2]

why does someone need to heal their toe when driving a 1 series? Maybe I dont want one of these anymore...

Or is it the heel and toe method of which you speak???

[m3bs]

Originally Posted by JHZR2

why does someone need to heal their toe when driving a 1 series? Maybe I dont want one of these anymore...

Or is it the heel and toe method of which you speak???

Somebody just had to do it........

[pit1]

I also use the left/right sides of my foot. I find it's a good setup especially under hard braking. Though the first bit of the accel isn't the most responsive so it requires more rocking. All in all it's great but requires a certain level of skill over other cars I've driven. I find Porsche to be simply perfect and much more natural, even my wifes Jetta and the Saturn Sky I test drove were much easier easier.

[fourtailpipes]

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232008

[halcon1]

Originally Posted by m3bs

Somebody just had to do it........

Don't mean to make fun of the comment but that's just hilarious !

[jeremyc74]

It's not natural, but it's not hard to do. The pedal arrangement on the 135i isn't the best I've ever owned, but it's also no where close to the worst.

The fact that the brakes are soo touchy makes it a little more difficult compared to some vehicles, but you get used to it over time.

[scorcherjf]

Yea... have to get used to it. I can do it in my sandals now =)

Although I will admit porsches feel a lot more natural.

[deamon32]

Initially I found it very difficult to do with the pedal positions and the touchy breaks on my 135. I previously drove a 04 Golf and had no issues.

Now that I have had the car for a little over a month I think heel-toe is easier to pull off than in the golf. I do plan on getting the aluminum pedals one day so that I can use washers to adjust the positions of the pedals slightly, this will be done after my SSK however.

[fourtailpipes]

don't tell the authorities, but barefoot is the only way to go for me.

[Addict...Nah Im A Junkie!]

Barefoot is the best!!!! The brake pedal needs to be a little higher or the gas pedal needs to be a little lower if driving normally and heel and toeing. If driving hard it's ok b/c you can really get into the breaks and be in the right position to blip the throttle. Porsche has a better pedal placement in my opinion. But you get used to adjusting. Not bad, just ok with the 135. I think I shall try the renn line pedals with the extension to make things better.

Also the clutch could be moved to the right a little in my opinion.

[M3_Dust]

works fine for me, but I have size 13 feet

[SlickShift]

The way BMW pedals are set up doesn't allow for actual heel-and-toeing. It's more like half-and-half footing. You really have to mash the brake to roll your foot and get the accelerator though. Then again, "heel-and-toeing" is for performance driving.

[nszzya]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

don't tell the authorities, but barefoot is the only way to go for me.

Or tell the authorities - they won't care!

http://web.archive.org/web/200306181..._barefoot.html

['fatboy']

I've had my 135i for a little over 2 weeks now and the first couple of days was a real struggle to heal / toe downshift smoothly (when compared to my RSX). As some have said, the brakes are really sensitive and the throttle hasn't much response initially, it takes time getting used to it.

[Notion-Za]

Well this is my first car and ive always been really keen to try out the heel n toe method. got it right the second time... hehe :P so it cant be to hard for the "experienced drivers"