PSS 255's rub?

[One///Em]

Will PSS 255-35-19's rub on stock ride height with updated fender liners? There seems to be conflicting reports

[One///Em]

Nothing?

[MDORPHN]

I've run them and didn't have any rubbing.

Neil

[One///Em]

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

I've run them and didn't have any rubbing.

Neil

Thank you Neil. Are camber plates the only suspension mod you have?

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by One///Em

Thank you Neil. Are camber plates the only suspension mod you have?

No, lots of stuff including JRZ dampers, E93 M3 front sway and Bimmerworld front lower control arm and rear camber arm bearing kits.

Neil

[ozinaldo]

There are many who posted mainly in the long thread for warranty issue regarding fender liner replacement, almost all saying that there is no rubbing or almost not perceptible with new liners and 255/35 PSS. I've felt confident enough myself too and ordered a new set of 255/275 for my 1M (no suspension mods other than the camber plates). I only had some rubbing when I passed from PS2 to same size PSS but neglibible.

I don't think that will be a problem with new liners and if it will be like the old liners with stock 245/35 that's totally acceptable for me.

[Artemis]

Mine will be fitted next weekend (PSS 255/35/19 front - PSS 275/35/19 rear).

I'll let you know.

[Mpro]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Mine will be fitted next weekend (PSS 255/35/19 front - PSS 275/35/19 rear).

I'll let you know.

Ha, Artemis is joining the PSS club! BIG difference betwee PS2 & PSS!

[Reedomn]

Originally Posted by Mpro

Ha, Artemis is joining the PSS club! BIG difference betwee PS2 & PSS!

what is the difference?....I still have the original stock PS2's that came with the car that I was going to put on this summer... I had PS2's on my former M3 that worked fine...

[Mpro]

Originally Posted by Reedomn

what is the difference?....I still have the original stock PS2's that came with the car that I was going to put on this summer... I had PS2's on my former M3 that worked fine...

PSS is simply the new generation of Michelin (Super) Sport tires.
These weren't available yet when our 1M's were developed.
(all new //M models come with PSS tires now)
I already drove a E92 M3 with PS2 & PSS to compare, the difference is huge.

Main #?
- Grip (dry & wet roads)
- Comfort
- Higher tread wear
- Cost (PSS is actually quite a bit cheaper)
- Did I already mention grip?

There are already a number of posts regarding the PSS tires.
Oz always has good input about these!

My opinion?
For street use I think it's the best tire on the market and the tire our 1M should have had from the factory.

[bmw5858]

You have to get a 255-30-19 to match with your front tire wich is supposed to be 225-35-19.

All depend on wheel. If it's on oem, no problem! It will fit perfectly!

[Spoolin Montego]

255 35 19 WILL RUB. You need a 255 30 19

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Mpro

PSS is simply the new generation of Michelin (Super) Sport tires.
These weren't available yet when our 1M's were developed.
(all new //M models come with PSS tires now)
I already drove a E92 M3 with PS2 & PSS to compare, the difference is huge.

Main #?
- Grip (dry & wet roads)
- Comfort
- Higher tread wear
- Cost (PSS is actually quite a bit cheaper)
- Did I already mention grip?

There are already a number of posts regarding the PSS tires.
Oz always has good input about these!

My opinion?
For street use I think it's the best tire on the market and the tire our 1M should have had from the factory.

+1. There are plenty of threads specific to PSS, I can say one initiated by myself (I passed to PSS after the first 550 kms of use of the factory fit PS2s, this was back in December 2011) and another one from Pete with detailed inputs, also many other posts in other threads under the section wheels/tires/chassis...you guys need to search those.

Also, last two posters before this one are not aware that this is 1M section, their posts are about 135i tire fitment and hence irrelevant.

[One///Em]

Seems that bigger isn't always better!....The PSS 245 & 255 have identical tread width of 9.2", section width variance is 0.7", the weight variance is 1.2lbs.

With the rear, PSS 265 vs 275, the weight variance 2lbs, and tread width gain of only 0.7".

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by bmw5858

You have to get a 255-30-19 to match with your front tire wich is supposed to be 225-35-19.
All depend on wheel. If it's on oem, no problem! It will fit perfectly!

Originally Posted by Spoolin Montego

255 35 19 WILL RUB. You need a 255 30 19

Here are some threads about 255/35/19 - 275/35/19:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=881758
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=844083
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786525
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687038

Originally Posted by Reedomn

what is the difference?....I still have the original stock PS2's that came with the car that I was going to put on this summer... I had PS2's on my former M3 that worked fine...

I had the impression that after over two years and almost 25K kms (Summer tires) the PS2 tire compound slightly started to 'glaze' to some extent (hardened rubber - less supple). But I could be wrong - could be just due to normal wear 'n tear.

[One///Em]

I went with OE sizes (245 & 265) due to the lighter weight vs marginally wider tread width of the 275 vs 265. There seems no advantage of going to a 255 over a 245 as tread width is identical

[robertm]

Been running 265/35s up front and 295/30s in back for close to a year now. About to install second set in that size PSS all around. Rubs in the front a little bit at slow speeds when turning. Like parking lots only. Not an issue for me. The newer fender liners would probably fix that.

[One///Em]

Originally Posted by robertm

Been running 265/35s up front and 295/30s in back for close to a year now. About to install second set in that size PSS all around. Rubs in the front a little bit at slow speeds when turning. Like parking lots only. Not an issue for me. The newer fender liners would probably fix that.

Nice, that would look wide. Assuming that's just for aesthetics. That's 3.5lbs rear and 2.5lbs front added to rotational weight

[Artemis]

Earlier today got new Summer shoes for my BBS CH-R rims: PSS 255/35/19 + PSS 275/35/19.
Only minor rubbing at full lock to the left (maneuvering at parking speed).
Stock height (excluded to drop ride height, otherwise I destroy my front bumper on a nasty sidewalk curb I regularly need to negotiate, and which managed to already scrape some paint away from the underside).

Front (2.4 bar):



Rear (2.5 bar):



Back:

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Earlier today got new Summer shoes for my BBS CH-R rims: PSS 255/35/19 + PSS 275/35/19.
Only minor rubbing at full lock to the left (maneuvering at parking speed).
Stock height (excluded to drop ride height, otherwise I destroy my front bumper on a nasty sidewalk curb I regularly need to negotiate, and which managed to already scrape some paint away from the underside).

Front (2.4 bar):
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Rear (2.5 bar):
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Back:
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Looks good Artemis

Keep it smooth while braking (try to avoid panic braking) for the first few hundred kms. That was the only minor issue while mine were breaking-in; they will already have better traction than your worn PS2s and after 500 to 1000 kms. the difference will be hillarious, more so on wet.

[Artemis]

And to clean the rotors (dirt/rust): go for a short drive and use the brakes. No products needed - just your right foot.

[robertm]

Originally Posted by One///Em

Nice, that would look wide. Assuming that's just for aesthetics. That's 3.5lbs rear and 2.5lbs front added to rotational weight

It does look fantastic but wasn't done for aesthetics. The additional rotational mass is minor negative in comparison to the huge amounts of extra grip.