No M1 at Geneva Motor Show - UPDATED

sparoz · 03-02-2010, 09:44 AM

"Finally, the production version of the M1 will arrive, early in 2011."

I am sure the following of the various Scott in the different forums that the M1 will be coming.

Everyone has been reading it wrong, as it actually stated the production version would be shown in early 2011. It is not saying it will be available from early 2011.

A little disappointed though as all M cars are shown in Geneva, but any information about lighter and more powerful is good.

BForbes · 03-02-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi

Sorry but you are wrong. If you knew what cars are in BMW's "Secret Garage"? M8, M5 Convertible E34, M5 Touring E39, Z8 (new),........

How am I wrong if I said "I hav

e never seen"? In my 7 year combined tenure on the BMW forums I haven't seen it. Especially when an M boss announces it, we get detailed descriptions down to the grille, and see plenty of spy shots. Clearly the M8 is on that list but that was way before my time and I cant comment on how much the car was marketed before a decision was even made. The internet clearly was not what it is today.

tyler9595 · 03-02-2010, 10:12 AM

I scanned this thread and I'm confused...the header says "No M1"...but on the home page it's accompanied by a very M1-looking car in a parking garage...Huh? Is it another PS?

enigma135 · 03-02-2010, 10:15 AM

Yup that's a photoshop done by someone on here, i apologize for forgetting the guy's name on here though.

JasonCSU · 03-02-2010, 10:21 AM

Isn't it a little too early to get all worked up about the M1 potentially not being at Geneva? Doesn't the show officially open on the 4th and run through the 14th? I could be wrong, but maybe BMW is keeping everyone in suspense for a surprise unveiling of the concept while at Geneva. It wouldn't surprise me if they did, but if it doesn't turn up by the end of show we can all begin our rants.

RäDIOCLäSH · 03-02-2010, 10:36 AM

....it's being fitted for an electrical plug!...ooops

cotmfk · 03-02-2010, 10:52 AM

Too bad, so sad.

miro2296 · 03-02-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler9595

I scanned this thread and I'm confused...the header says "No M1"...but on the home page it's accompanied by a very M1-looking car in a parking garage...Huh? Is it another PS?

I believe that's the ASR 1er:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...&highlight=ASR

ZER0_C00L · 03-02-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Advevo

Bmw is only talking about green and Efficient dynamics boring cars and certainly no drivers cars.

I don t see lots of good stuff comming from bmw if this is the route were going downhill on fun at bmw.

My g.. boring isn t even the right word it. That 12 min is the worst 12 min i have ever experienced on tv/internet.

A very very very big dissapointment about a brand which was sporty and nice to drive have race engines in normal shaped cars etc etc.

Bring back the glory days of BMW

T89 · 03-02-2010, 04:15 PM

M1 is gonna a fun little car. Tried a 135i fully kitted with bmw performance modification not too long ago. It was already amazingly fast. M1 is gonna be up a whole new level!

T

IZAGLO · 03-02-2010, 05:05 PM

Just joined the BMW family in JAN/10 with a 135i and had been HOLDING out for the 135Tii which i had seen in the magazines many times ..It was discussed using a possible 4cyl turbo in excess of 300 to be faster than the 135i stock. In all the times i have seen and heard about this....i could not wait any longer so i bought a 09 demo at a substantial savings and will mod for a bit...
I am confident that a version of the 135i will come out as the Tii , just to make some additional sales, and keep the interest on this platform current configuration... till the new one comes out in 2013 or so....I would bet if the M1 is coming it will be after the Tii on this platform and the M1 in the next.

Robert · 03-02-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler9595

I scanned this thread and I'm confused...the header says "No M1"...but on the home page it's accompanied by a very M1-looking car in a parking garage...Huh? Is it another PS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma135

Yup that's a photoshop done by someone on here, i apologize for forgetting the guy's name on here though.

No a tuner actually attached a m3 bumper to 135i. That is a real photo just not a M1

JasonCSU · 03-02-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert

No a tuner actually attached a m3 bumper to 135i. That is a real photo just not a M1

It was also photoshopped. Here is the thread:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=22

JimmyT · 03-02-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

Doh! Oh man....You have no idea how happy I was when I took that final step off of Ali Al Salim's dusty ground and got on that bus to fly home....good luck with Space A and welcome back buddy

now in Leipzig, Germany, isn't that where they make the 1er... just about 13 more hours to good old USA.

just ready to hear some good news about this car.... :

sparoz · 03-02-2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BForbes

How am I wrong if I said "I hav

e never seen"? In my 7 year combined tenure on the BMW forums I haven't seen it. Especially when an M boss announces it, we get detailed descriptions down to the grille, and see plenty of spy shots. Clearly the M8 is on that list but that was way before my time and I cant comment on how much the car was marketed before a decision was even made. The internet clearly was not what it is today.

I think he just meant the rain will come before the end at Geneva part.

BMWPower06 · 03-02-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Unfortunately it's true that BMW have postponed the debut of the M1 Concept.

I'm able to share some information SCOTT thankfully provided:

It turns out that the BMW board members drove an M1 prototype earlier this week and asked for siginificant changes due to some problems affecting the car as well as changes to the car including more weight reduction and a new Brake Energy Recovery System.

If I understand this correctly, these changes will affect some of the power output of the car (read: it will get more power) which also confirms that an power boost for the M3 will be imminent in 2012.

Sorry but I find that very hard to believe, especially since no ///M model in the last 15+ years got a boost in power (in base trim) sure there was the CSL, but that was a different car than the base M3.

Anyways, hope the M1 will be at the NY auto show!!

Remonster · 03-03-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWPower06

Sorry but I find that very hard to believe, especially since no ///M model in the last 15+ years got a boost in power (in base trim) sure there was the CSL, but that was a different car than the base M3.

Anyways, hope the M1 will be at the NY auto show!!

Just because it hasn't happened recently doesn't mean there isn't a precedent, the E30 M3, E34 M5 and E36 M3 all got bumps in power during their life cycles.

sid33 · 03-03-2010, 11:03 PM

Total dissapointment if this is true and it is not coming . I have been super excited about since the news broke and it seemed iminent. I hope BMW didnt go tits up on this 1 (no pun intended)

sparoz · 03-04-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ZER0_C00L

Bring back the glory days of BMW

Yes, bring back the propeller planes.

bmwzone · 03-04-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sid33

Total dissapointment if this is true and it is not coming . I have been super excited about since the news broke and it seemed iminent. I hope BMW didnt go tits up on this 1 (no pun intended)

Oh Gawd, the 1 is already friggen perfect for the street. Unbelievably fast, the best engine in the world under 75k, the 2009's and up have the best wheels, interior (simple, clean, with beautiful headliner), and a perfect balance of performance and comfort for street and long trips even. Heck, I've drove mine 300-400 miles per day for days with kids in back and we loved it.

You want an M, BMW offers the M3. That's always been BMW's best car - actually IMO the best car in the world - HANDS DOWN. But I can't afford one. Not everyone should. Remember BMW is supposed to be an elite/premium brand.

The 135i can surely be improved with LSD but I can't tell the difference anyway since I, like most owners, don't track it.

PrimoM3 · 03-04-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwzone

Oh Gawd, the 1 is already friggen perfect for the street. Unbelievably fast, the best engine in the world under 75k, the 2009's and up have the best wheels, interior (simple, clean, with beautiful headliner), and a perfect balance of performance and comfort for street and long trips even. Heck, I've drove mine 300-400 miles per day for days with kids in back and we loved it.

For you, maybe.

adc · 03-04-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWPower06

Sorry but I find that very hard to believe, especially since no ///M model in the last 15+ years got a boost in power (in base trim) sure there was the CSL, but that was a different car than the base M3.

You forget the E36 M3 which went through a significant engine change through it's production life (both in Europe and USA), or the E34 M5 which also got a significant power bump in Europe midway in the cycle, or the E30 M3 which also had engine changes.

I would also observe that there is no absolute rule concerning this, BMW will do whatever makes sense and whatever the board decides, based on conditions at the time.

Now BMW, please show me my M1 now, I need to know if I should save my pennies or start modifying the M3 - no point throwing money at it if I'll get an M1 next year.

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JasonCSU Colonel 699 Rep 2,548 Posts Drives: '08 135i, '88 325is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW 325is [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Isn't it a little too early to get all worked up about the M1 potentially not being at Geneva? Doesn't the show officially open on the 4th and run through the 14th? I could be wrong, but maybe BMW is keeping everyone in suspense for a surprise unveiling of the concept while at Geneva. It wouldn't surprise me if they did, but if it doesn't turn up by the end of show we can all begin our rants. __________________ Delivered in Munich, broken in on the Nurburgring.
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IZAGLO Mbira 30 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: Sedonna Red 09 135i SOLD Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Garage cleaning Brake Dust iTrader: (3)	Just joined the BMW family in JAN/10 with a 135i and had been HOLDING out for the 135Tii which i had seen in the magazines many times ..It was discussed using a possible 4cyl turbo in excess of 300 to be faster than the 135i stock. In all the times i have seen and heard about this....i could not wait any longer so i bought a 09 demo at a substantial savings and will mod for a bit... I am confident that a version of the 135i will come out as the Tii , just to make some additional sales, and keep the interest on this platform current configuration... till the new one comes out in 2013 or so....I would bet if the M1 is coming it will be after the Tii on this platform and the M1 in the next.
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